Reina trains everyday he wont hardly bother practicing, DN practicing will hugely increases his edge.

I watch religiously and played semi pro a couple years back, maybe i got the percentage a little high at 90% but its still like 75%-80% from what i see on google, and like you say the best kickers are probably at 90%.

DN needs 20%+, he already into hockey isn't he? didn't he play hockey aswell? which shows he is not totally ******ed hand eye coordination wise.

If i could teach a girl to toe punt the ball reasonably hard it would be +ev. DN may even score more than 1

once i hear times and dates i'll take your money, no problem

Has Negreanu played football at any competitive level? If so I will probably book action vs all you guys who want to bet on Reina

Read DN's post in this thread. He talks about his experience playing soccer.

Please name one PL-goalie that's better than Reina at stopping penalties.

Reina is absolute world class against penalty kicks, and might be the best in the world in that aspect. His 2 goals allowed from 9 penalty kicks when with Villarreal in 04/05 is just sick, and he's been very good in Liverpool as well. West Ham scored 1 goal in the penalty shootout to end the FA-cup final in 06. I can't think of a goalie I'd rather have in a penalty shootout.

But I guess Negreanu is a better penalty kick-taker than those clowns in La Liga or West Ham.

DN's best strategy here is to practise chipping the ball at slow speed into the top corners. If he goes for power unless he gets very lucky Reina will get to it quite easily. I imagine DN thinks he has a good edge here because even though Reina has saved penalties from some of the world's best strikers, he hasn't saved penalties against one of the world's best bluffers. But he is quite mistaken. Reina's reflexes are so fast he can wait until the ball is moving before making his decision where to go (given that DN is not a professional that is).

You sir, are a moron.

He could probably strike out the best batters in the MLB and wicket the best batters in world cricket 1 out of 5 too eh. It's exactly the same situation, you are an idiot for not understanding that. i.e. if DG steps up to pitch in MLB, I don't expect his weak, girl-throw to even make it to the batter, never mind strike him out, and likewise i don't expect his weak, girl-shot to beat Reina. His only shot at this is if Reina makes a mistake, or he luckboxes some crazy swerve that catches Reina out.

Watching professional players score penalties against professional goalies and amateur players score penalties against amateur goalies is not the same as an amateur scoring against a professional. You have never kicked a football if you think any different. Your scale of what constitutes power and accuracy is completely different then Reina's. For people itt who think Reina "will guess wrong at least once", make no mistake, DG under no circumstances has enough power and technique to kick the ball powerfully enough that Reina is at any point "guessing" where to dive. What makes the morons itt even begin to think they can kick the ball powerfully? If you could kick the ball with the power and accuracy like anything approaching a professional then you would all be a professional too. But you can't, and you aren't. This stupidity puts me on life tilt. It's like me claiming I can throw like Tom Brady despite knowing very little about NFL, then arguing with people who actually do know something about it.

FWIW, I have probably have greater football knowledge, have taken more penalties against better opponents (usually with success) and have played to a higher standard than 90-95% of the ppl in this thread. I doubt you have ever kicked a football, and certainly have never had formal coaching or played against decent opposition.

Since everyone is so sure about their opinion.. why dont we start some betting then?

There are people who willing to bet, on both sides.

Personally, I'd snap call this bet if it was with one of my mates, but I prefer not to get involved monetarily with people I don't know from Adam over the internet.

Edit: I'd mach 5, insta call.

Its just ridiulous that people think Negreanu can do this. Reina is one of the best goalkeepers in the world. I am a Liverpool fan and see him week in and week out. I can tell you now Negreanu has no chance. Reina will just wait for him to take the kick and react accordingly, I will happily bet on the outcome of this.

Has DN confirmed this is actually going ahead? The source was The Sun after all, the same paper that ran a story about a squirrel terrorising 6 people in a town called Knutsford...

I am willing to bet, but the thing is that the bet hasnt been confirmed yet and we need dates, etc.

I feel sorry for you, that you have to watch that Benitez ****ee week in week out.

Cmon guys.

- He only needs to be better than ~13% to score.
- He said in the thread he had played soccer at high school.

Seems like DN has an edge to me, although it wouldnt suprise me if Reina saved all 5.

If it was me, id just run up straight and toe punt the ball at max power. Pretty random where those go but i reckon I'd do better than 13%.

Also, the poker/golf/tennis analogies are completely clueless.

That strategy has a negative chance of success. (Why negative and not zero? Because to toe punt the ball powerfully enough to beat Reina you will break your toe or fall flat on your arse long before you get anywhere near scoring)

i would bet on Daniel

To put it this way.. If I got the chance I would bet 95% of my net worth on myself to score 1/5. I have decent football experience but havent played for a couple of years.. Its silly how many people think that Reina can stand on the line, wait to the ball is kicked, then decide witch way to go and have all the time in the world to make the save because the kick is slower then the pros.

A penalty is a close range shot. And the ball is comming at you so fast that you just dont have the time to wait for the shot and depend on reflexes even if its not a pro whos kicking it.

And yes I watch a lot of football and Liverpool. Im well aweare that Reina is one of the best goalkeepers on the line out there.. But im still super super positive that I would make it.

I find this thread funny.
People are using mathmatics to calculate if DN can actually score.

Sorry but it aint going to happen unless hes actually played before or scuffs it and it luckily goes in.

The poll is pretty much 50/50.

Lol yeah that's all there is to playing professional football.

This.

And I agree with the guy who said Daniel could practice chipping it to the upper corner and probably get 1 out of 5. It would be pretty tough for Reina to reach such a shot even if Daniel kicked it to the same upper corner each time and told Reina he was going to do so. Basically it becomes more of an exercise of whether Daniel could nail 1 out of 5 perfectly in that corner with the small issue of Reina being able to get to the ones that are a bit off from the corner.

I'm really not sure I agree with the popularly stated "toe-punch as hard as he can" strategy....but maybe. But I think there's a reasonable chance that just trying to blast the ball as hard as he can like that he ends up completely missing the target a couple of the times and maybe drills it right at Reina a couple of the times. I just don't think toe-punch-random is the way to go about this since Daniel actually has played soccer before and at least has a fair idea of how to try to kick a ball.

No, but it is a good start and is utterly indispensable.

This too.

Endurance and speed and passing and seeing the field and foot-work and wacky stuff like that is kind of a part of the sport too.

It's not just about who can shoot the ball the hardest and most accurately and it's pretty bizarre to remotely imply otherwise.

I'm amazed at the number of people who claim to follow the sport who don't understand that penalty kicks are REALLY freaking close and that there's a pretty high amount of randomness involved.

The one post comparing it to baseball or cricket and Daniel being able to strikeout a professional is LOL bad. No...it's not the same at all.

The way to go is obv to shoot a well placed shot with decent speed.. Shouldnt be 100% power or 100% accuracy. A decent mix between the two and the bet is over.

He should toe poke one, chip one to each corner and hit one high down the middle and one low down the middle. No way Reina sees that coming!