My assumption would be that State Government will make decisions that Fed will not.

The idea of thousands of people, young and old, from all corners of the globe, traveling to Las Vegas for WSOP in just a matter of weeks, has simply become a laughable farce at this point.

In what spectrum of reality can Seth/Effel/Caesars think WSOP will actually take place? With its inherent close quarters of multi-national clientele, its in fact the very opposite of social distancing.

All major sports and events cancelled or postponed, but wsop will carry on. Delusion and poker united for life

Agree.

I hope very much that you are right, but you should probably know that the site you list is a model from University of Washington which has pretty consistently been on the optimistic side of the various experts and models out there.
There are models that predict we won't even see a peak until July (which is admittedly much more pessimistic than most other models).

Sports are planning on starting in June, MLB, NBA, NHL. Of course that could change but that is the estimate. WSOP could start early June, that is 8 weeks away, we will be way over the hump by then and on the way down long before that.

Hmmmm no cases in Antarctica, so far as I know. But it is their winter. The WSOP does like to hold it during triple digit weather. Maybe -100 Degrees F won't be so bad.

Sports will start with mass testing of players and staff. You're right tho as soon as things mildly get better it's a good idea to cram a world of degens into a room. It will be only super degenerates playing as people with anything to live for will just wait until next year. It won't happen in june, and if it does have fun with that

email from Caesars just now:

We are now offering same-day cancellations.
For all new reservations made on or after Friday, April 3rd, 2020, you may cancel your reservation until 3pm day of arrival.

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WSOP is currently scheduled for early June already. Before the extension of the social distancing recommendations for a month, I felt like it was 50/50 that the WSOP could go on as planned. And it was only that low because I'm not sure what the "rules" for large gatherings will be in the initial stages of re-opening commerce. Before the extension was announced I felt like hotels, restaurants, etc. would start to open back up in May....

Now, I'm thinking this will be pushed back to June and large gatherings will be at least a month later, unless some sort of medical or technological breakthrough makes the virus less lethal, or much easier to identify/control.

So, If I had to put money on it, I feel like best case scenario is WSOP goes forward with a modified/shorter schedule in July, or is postponed till the fall. And, if postponement won't work scheduling-wise, then we're looking at 2021.

I can't see sports based on travel working, all sport would need to be centralised to one place to be able to get those TV hours and dollars.

There is a big prize available for the first state to be able to completely isolate itself from disruption, and offer facilities etc within the state to anyone who meets the initial quarantine period. I am surprised that it looks like no states have really tried to aim for that as a goal.

Leagues would likely PAY the states if they can get access to facilities to put a league on TV while still being able to be isolated enough from the general public to be able to put on a show. The first league to get back on the air will have Krusty the Clown level 100% market share (in the episode Sideshow Bob gets rid of TV) if they can get games back on the regular. And regardless of where they are based, time doesn't really matter. Just put on a few games a day and have access to a few gymnasiums/training facilities to get the NBA back on screens.

I honestly think that Australia has the opportunity if they can get a level of state based quarantine and hard restrictions of quarantine on entry to become a sports Mecca of sorts with the facilities to put on tennis/golf etc... tennis in particular there is no reason you can't put a game on at 11pm local time in Perth (which would be good times for Euros (4ish PM) and Americans (10am EST) given you aren't trying to appeal to local ticket audiences.

An interesting theory. But there are places in the US which are not getting hit as hard that have sufficient facilities for sports to be held, so long as they are made even more isolated. Not sure why US leagues would have to go all the way to Australia.

Even if the casinos open in time (which they won't) the international travel ban will be in force for a lot longer after.

Oh, the USA based leagues wouldn't go to Australia. If they can get hard borders in states like Hawaii then sure why not.

But things like pro tennis and golf could and should.

Yeah, golf is definitely one of the sports best-poised to resume in a hurry. I'm guessing many of the athletes would actually prefer it if there were no spectators.

while the numbers on this site are more or less as good as any... so much doesn't make sense...

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

For instance, does Mexico, home to a city more populous than any in the US, really only have 1500 confirmed cases? That doesn't seem like its possible. Are they just testing very few people? Why do I feel like this particular country is a powered keg ready to explode, which could make Italy, Spain and France look like a cake-walk?

Mexico isn't a travel hub, so the odds of a large original super spreader are lower compared to somewhere like NYC/Paris/Madrid or even Northern Italy (where a big soccer game between Valencia and Atalanta in the Champions League was likely a big reason for the spread in those two countries).

The best way to look at countries is to compare cases to deaths. The lower the ratio of cases to deaths, the more likely that testing is solid (the bodies rarely lie).

Mexico is roughly 3% death rate, which is reasonable compared to other countries of similar cases such as Greece and Peru. A country like Indonesia (similar cases but 4x the fatalities) are likely to be holding more unaccounted for cases.

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The 2020 WSOP could be offered as an entirely online series of tournaments, with an online Main Event.

Players in most jurisdictions in the world could participate, except, ironically for 47 States in the US without expressly legal online poker.

The Main Event is not so large as it could not be accomodated as an online event. Much larger fields play together, or should I say AloneTogether, online.

If Caesars' management can't get that orgaminzed, they should be encouraged to look for new employment.

As a regulatory matter, I would expect that Nevada Gaming could sign off on any number of regulated online jurisdictions, just like was done with Del and NJ.

There is NO federal legal hurdle, no Wire Act nonsense. In the past, counsel for various entities seeking to keep PokerStars or European sports books out have argued that International or interstate gambling (on sports), across national borders, would be illegal under US laws. They were wrong then and would be wrong today.

But hey, no one is paying me to work on the problem .... Caesars has plenty of time and counsel to iron out agreements, if they haven't been frittering it away with verbal barrages like that Card Player nonsense.

(You think that a large, licensed, regulated network has not broached the topic of hosting that WSOP "poker party" ? I would be amazed if THAT topic has not been worked on and will not be trotted out as the 2020 version of the WSOP. Who would object (other than Sheldon) ?

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All lines up with exactly what I've been thinking. They feel no rush to officially announce a postponement or rescheduling, and they'll hold off until they have a better idea of what they're doing. And there are many, many ways they could hold something.

Not holding *some* kind of event that they can tag as being "2020 WSOP" is giving away money; they're going to be very reluctant to do so.

In the spectrum of reality above. It might be fully or partially online. It might be moved to a location which they think will be ready to host something later in the year. What it won't be, and nothing in that communication suggested it would be, is: "thousands of people, young and old, from all corners of the globe, traveling to Las Vegas for WSOP in just a matter of weeks".

I guess I could see this for individual sports, but not for team sports. With charter flights (or even team buses), travel won't be a big hurdle for them IMO, or certainly not the biggest.

Mandatory quarantines on arrival abecome more prevalent in a national and state level will be why reduced travel is important.

Thinking this through more, for leagues that suspended their seasons, they're going to need to do something in the next few months, or it will be too late. Hard to imagine very many locations being prepared to allow stadiums to even partially fill with fans in that time frame. *Maybe* in some locations, but not the majority IMO. If they were to finish seasons in empty arenas/stadiums, then it would make sense to do so in a smaller selection of cities.

But if we're somehow at a point where they're allowing fans at games, they'll probably also be able to travel. I find it hard to envision a scenario where a state or province is allowing thousands of fans to converge, but not allowing inter-state/province travel without quarantine.

Basically, I feel that gatherings of thousands is one of the last restrictions that will be lifted, and until those are lifted there's no point scheduling games in every city, regardless of travel restrictions.

The one possible travel-related barrier I could see lasting beyond mass gatherings might be across national borders, but even then they may allow exceptions if they test everyone from the team.

IDK, the whole thing just seems so hard to imagine right now that it's hard to say what it could look like.

The North American league that seems least likely to finish their season, disappointed though it makes me, is the NHL. SO many international players that I assume have gone home; can't imagine any of them being able to come back here any time soon. And international includes Canadians and Americans in the case of the NHL.

Pennsylvania has expressly legal online poker. They just don’t have WSOP.com. Or is it Delaware (who was first to legalize it) you forgot about?

I was looking at the three States where WSOP.com is licensed. Forgot that Pennsylvania has legalized online poker, but has no WSOP. .... make it 46 States, plus DC plus territories, etc.

One question your correction raises is WHY would WSOP.com not have gotten a Pa. license ? The market is certainly big enough.

Can WSOP.com arrange a pooling internationally ?

Take my word, it is NOT too tough, my company did a Ryders Cup of Poker one year with pooling with a European site to allow a North American players team to enter pooled fields against a European team for the Cup tournaments ...... and that was about 15 years ago...

I am sure that an international player pool can be created and could be done easily if there were a management will to do it.


I'd expect it is being worked on already ....