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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

03-23-2020 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Does a recess mean that we can recovene tonight or? Lol
The way THAT played out, they ALL need to use the time to bone up on Roberts Rules of Order...NONE of them had a clue about parliamentary procedure. And the mouthy one clearly has an issue with decorum to boot...
03-23-2020 , 02:47 PM
So, as of this moment, the mortality rate of confirmed cases in the US is at 1.2%, which is now the same as S. Korea. Hard to say what this will look like in the future, but its interesting to note that it is 3x the mortality rate compared to Germany at this time. I haven't really been following the situation in Germany closely, but I'd be kind of surprised if their response was dramatically different from the US or a number of European countries (where the mortality rate is significantly higher, than even the US/S.Korea). Anyone have any theories as to why Germany is seeing so many fewer people die to this point? Statistical anomaly (ie luck)? Inaccurate data? Something else?
03-23-2020 , 03:12 PM



03-23-2020 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MofoAgro
The death rate arc peaks at FOURTEEN DAYS AFTER FULL LOCKDOWN.
That seems like a pretty definitive statement for a situation which is highly dependent on specific conditions and is also continually evolving. Do you have any reliable source for this figure? I am actually curious and would like to look more into it.

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Originally Posted by MofoAgro
So you can infer that THE DEATH RATE WILL NOT PEAK UNTIL FULL LOCKDOWN.
I don't think you can infer that. Italy has been in virtual nation-wide "lockdown" for two weeks and their numbers for daily new cases don't appear to have peaked. Also, it appears that the epidemic peaked in S. Korea almost three weeks ago with no wholesale "lockdown" implemented.

There definitely seems to be a need for localized "lockdowns" where circumstances merit it.

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Originally Posted by MofoAgro

Why is not every State doing a full lockdown. I think enough time has past so the Great Unwashed illiterate masses can process a full lockdown in their collective pea brain minds.

Don't you?
No, because of what I mentioned above. And, your bigoted comments set aside, the situation, both as a result of the spread of this virus, and also as a result of unique state laws, is not remotely the same. An appropriate and/or legal response in NY is not necessarily an appropriate and/or legal response in WY. I believe it is clear some measure of caution... be that "social distancing" or reductions of large gatherings, are appropriate no matter where you are in the US. But government-enforced "complete lockdown" everywhere? How exactly is that supposed to work in the context of a free society which has 325MM people in it?
03-23-2020 , 03:45 PM
The Olympics posponed. Pretty sure the WSOP will be moved to the fall.
03-23-2020 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
The Olympics posponed. Pretty sure the WSOP will be moved to the fall.
If the WSOP doesn't go on as scheduled, I think this would be a best-case scenario.
03-23-2020 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
The Olympics posponed. Pretty sure the WSOP will be moved to the fall.
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Originally Posted by akashenk
If the WSOP doesn't go on as scheduled, I think this would be a best-case scenario.
according to this...

https://lasvegascalendars.com/las-ve...ate=2020-11-30

... there don't appear to be any big conventions scheduled at the Rio between 8/1 - 11/30 other than Star Trek at the beginning of August. I don't know if this is accurate, or if there are simply lots of smaller things already scheduled. Finding a spot for a 3-week event, never mind the usual 6 weeks will be the challenge if they try to do it in the fall.
03-23-2020 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
Honestly if they were in Mexico or anywhere else in jail I'd say yes it's possible that a hooker gets into jail but not in the US.

How do u get Covid in jail?!
And is Weinstein the new eppstein with Covid?
He would be having daily contact with staff who are out and about in the community. Weinstein is likely just far enough removed from the court proceedings for it to have been contracted while in Court or at Rikers.

It IS still interesting how some areas of the country have huge numbers while others are still just in triple digits for cases. Texas is still seeing less than four percent of the people tested being positive or presumptive positive for COVID-19. TxDSHS numbers updated today placed the tally at 352 cases off of 10,055 tests. That represented an increase of 18 positive/presumptive positives over the day before with ~1300 tests having been administered.

The 'hookers' in prison tend to be the staff members that place their sex life over the task of actually fulfilling the job requirements of correctional duties. During my time working with the Texas prison system, it was a regular occurrence to have female employees who were walked off of the unit, particularly on third shift. They also tended, along with mailroom, nursing and laundry personnel, to be the ones bringing in contraband. But we digress...
03-23-2020 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
according to this...

https://lasvegascalendars.com/las-ve...ate=2020-11-30

... there don't appear to be any big conventions scheduled at the Rio between 8/1 - 11/30 other than Star Trek at the beginning of August. I don't know if this is accurate, or if there are simply lots of smaller things already scheduled. Finding a spot for a 3-week event, never mind the usual 6 weeks will be the challenge if they try to do it in the fall.

I agree logistics would be challenging. Perhaps they could run the series across multiple locations? Of course, the casinos need to reopen before plans could even be considered....
03-23-2020 , 04:54 PM
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National and international: The governor of the state of New York says that states are getting in bidding wars to get masks. I don't remember the exact words, but it was something like this: If we want to order a bunch of $6 masks, another state will offer $7.

**this is why the 'dpa' is needed; e.g. 3m has scaled up production of ~1-billion n95 masks; they will sell at their stated price point, wholesale, but cannot prevent price gouging;
**the dpa does 2 things:
the govt asks manufacturers to produce;
then pays for that production;
which prevents the price gouging;
then the govt distributes;
03-23-2020 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
So, as of this moment, the mortality rate of confirmed cases in the US is at 1.2%, which is now the same as S. Korea. Hard to say what this will look like in the future, but its interesting to note that it is 3x the mortality rate compared to Germany at this time. I haven't really been following the situation in Germany closely, but I'd be kind of surprised if their response was dramatically different from the US or a number of European countries (where the mortality rate is significantly higher, than even the US/S.Korea). Anyone have any theories as to why Germany is seeing so many fewer people die to this point? Statistical anomaly (ie luck)? Inaccurate data? Something else?


At this point the speculation is a combination of a larger percentage of "younger" infected people and a better job of isolating the high risk population. I'm not sure how they are achieving the second point but in contrast Italy has a built in problem with the large number of multi generational households.
03-23-2020 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
So, as of this moment, the mortality rate of confirmed cases in the US is at 1.2%, which is now the same as S. Korea. Hard to say what this will look like in the future, but its interesting to note that it is 3x the mortality rate compared to Germany at this time. I haven't really been following the situation in Germany closely, but I'd be kind of surprised if their response was dramatically different from the US or a number of European countries (where the mortality rate is significantly higher, than even the US/S.Korea). Anyone have any theories as to why Germany is seeing so many fewer people die to this point? Statistical anomaly (ie luck)? Inaccurate data? Something else?
Yes, there are some theories:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uzzles-experts
03-23-2020 , 05:04 PM
Sadly, I just can't see any way that they go forward with it.

From what I've read, COVID is expected to peak around May.

You're saying that a few weeks later people will want to load into the Rio to trade germs?

It would seem like a reckless decision from Caesars and maybe a liability issue.

We're in uncharted waters and I can envision anything from a postponement to outright cancellation being on the table, but what I can't see is people filing into the Rio in two months to play poker with thousands of strangers in the peak of a pandemic.

I haven't cancelled my reservation...yet. However, it seems like only a matter of time until they're forced to pull the plug.
03-23-2020 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
Will anyone even remember or be talking about the corona virus by the time WSOP rolls around?
I'm thinking yes. First few pages of this thread seems like a long time ago
03-23-2020 , 05:28 PM
The Rolling Stones cancelled their entire Summer 2020 Tour across North America. So bummed, I had already purchased tickets to their kickoff show in San Diego on May 8th.
03-23-2020 , 05:29 PM
I haven't seen this point mentionned but even if the virus would magically disappear in a month, it takes weeks for foreigners to get a visa, not even talking about booking flights...
If not cancelled, WSOP will be pretty much a NA thing.
03-23-2020 , 05:41 PM
So the friggin Olympics are postponed indefinitely but the WSOP will go on as scheduled? Yeah okay, um that never happens. The sad part to me is that the executives at Caesars really don't value most poker player's intelligence. If they did they would realize this should have been cancelled weeks ago. Instead the braintrust probably believe most are degenerate gamblers and will find any excuse to still attend. So they will keep waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting... I'd also bet if this would ever make national news you'd see a cancelation tweet and announcement soon after.
03-23-2020 , 05:47 PM
No way it's happening. But if it did it would be the greatest collection of super degenerates a tourney has ever seen
03-23-2020 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
So the friggin Olympics are postponed indefinitely but the WSOP will go on as scheduled? Yeah okay, um that never happens. The sad part to me is that the executives at Caesars really don't value most poker player's intelligence. If they did they would realize this should have been cancelled weeks ago. Instead the braintrust probably believe most are degenerate gamblers and will find any excuse to still attend. So they will keep waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting... I'd also bet if this would ever make national news you'd see a cancelation tweet and announcement soon after.

Yes, I said this very thing a few weeks back. At this point tho, 1st we have to see when casinos even open up again. At the end of 30 day closure, I doubt it, Sometime in May? Possible.

Then what type of restrictions are being used? Still short handed poker and 3 chairs per blackjack table and spaced slots, etc.

Then we will know for sure if its even possible, even if its highly unlikely that it runs, who knows what Caesars might try to do if they are even allowed.
03-23-2020 , 05:53 PM
03-23-2020 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
So the friggin Olympics are postponed indefinitely but the WSOP will go on as scheduled? Yeah okay, um that never happens. The sad part to me is that the executives at Caesars really don't value most poker player's intelligence. If they did they would realize this should have been cancelled weeks ago. r.
CZR execs don't care too much about WSOP, looking at their entire business its a non-event from a financial perspective.

If they cancelled now, , at least some casino customers would interpret that as Vegas not being open for business this summer, and plan on not visiting or cancel current plans.

So, cancelling now would only further depress future Vegas casino tourists.

Aside from being close to going bankrupt, that is their #1 concern.. "when we are allowed, how are we quickly going to ramp up casino business."
03-23-2020 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
I haven't seen this point mentionned but even if the virus would magically disappear in a month, it takes weeks for foreigners to get a visa, not even talking about booking flights...
If not cancelled, WSOP will be pretty much a NA thing.
what percentage of players do you think are foreigners?

now of those foreigners how many of those are euro trash nobody wants to play with anyway?

wsop is probably not going to happen as scheduled, if it does it probably won't be a good idea to go but lack of foreigners won't be a big issue
03-23-2020 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
So the friggin Olympics are postponed indefinitely but the WSOP will go on as scheduled? Yeah okay, um that never happens. The sad part to me is that the executives at Caesars really don't value most poker player's intelligence. If they did they would realize this should have been cancelled weeks ago. Instead the braintrust probably believe most are degenerate gamblers and will find any excuse to still attend. So they will keep waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting... I'd also bet if this would ever make national news you'd see a cancelation tweet and announcement soon after.
what upside was there to cancelling it weeks ago?
03-23-2020 , 06:45 PM
Even if the casinos in Vegas can open in May, most of the players will not come, they will be stuck all over the world with lots of financial problems after losing their jobs, businesses etc. It will take time to heal the world.

And the epidemic could get a lot worse in the US over the next 2 months.

So forget this year, get ready for WSOP 2021.
03-23-2020 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
So, as of this moment, the mortality rate of confirmed cases in the US is at 1.2%, which is now the same as S. Korea. Hard to say what this will look like in the future, but its interesting to note that it is 3x the mortality rate compared to Germany at this time. I haven't really been following the situation in Germany closely, but I'd be kind of surprised if their response was dramatically different from the US or a number of European countries (where the mortality rate is significantly higher, than even the US/S.Korea). Anyone have any theories as to why Germany is seeing so many fewer people die to this point? Statistical anomaly (ie luck)? Inaccurate data? Something else?
Many factors ofc. But mainly/mostly due to our good healthcare system, which has no shortages so far. Also because of the lower average age of people who were infected/tested in Germany (compared to Italy, for example).
But we are still early in it, not yet sure that we are at least flattening the curve with our measures yet. But on Wednesday, we will get more meaningfull numbers.

Will be a super tough balancing act worldwide for all of our politicians and scientists, when to re-open what, or close back down etc etc. Don't wanna be in their spot now.

      
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