To be clear I wasn't advocating this position as much as inquiring about peoples thoughts on it. This is the first time I've heard COVID-19 mutates and we are susceptible to the mutant strains. Are they proposed to be worse than the original?

Regarding my comment on the economies, if many people are confined to their homes with no source of income for "too long" the ramifications will be much more than the obvious financial hardships. How long would that take....who knows but I'm confident in saying the virus would be the least of our problems at that point. If it ever came to that (and I certainly don't think it will) you would likely end up reconsidering your position.

No necessary worse as in more lethal as I think it is established that the sars 1 was just as dangerous as the new one. Im not sure if it spreads easier. But it changed
a bit not to worry about that as we changed too.
Bad thing is we could have a had a vaccine by now if they wanted to, but instead invested in other things like Iraq and walls. Wake up America.

Canada announcing they won't send a team to the Tokyo Olympics if they're not postponed until next year. Should be interesting to see if this starts a cascade.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6716555/c...e-tokyo-games/

Um...I'm as happy to pile on the current administration as anyone, but this sounds highly inaccurate. Do you have a source for "we could have a had a vaccine by now"? And even if that's true (which I'm pretty sure it's not), why is that America's fault?

America is pulling all the strings so I heard.
Anyhow whoever is pulling the strings
If you listen to a virologist as I have on YouTube they say they would have loved to make a vaccine but budget was cut because it was less of an interest.
I will add some sources soon as I didn't mark anything.

Given that every expert I've heard says that the best you're going to do for a new vaccine is 12-18 months, primarily due to testing, I'm pretty confident that no one person/administration/country is stopping us from having a vaccine right now. And when I see you post "America is pulling all the strings so I heard.", it makes me think you've been watching conspiracy theory videos again - please don't come back with a bunch of inks to those.

In future, you really shouldn't be making firm statements like "we could have a had a vaccine by now if they wanted to" when you're relying on information like "America is pulling all the strings so I heard" and one virologist who says they would have loved to make a vaccine.

Does it sterlize blood in the urine?

Didn’t CureVac (Funded by Dietmar Hopp & Bill Gates) say they might have one by the summer if the outbreak is bad enough for regulators to significantly drop testing requirements?

I bet a number of companies could under those conditions. That's a lot different than what washoe was saying, though.

Cardplayer magazine is free online during the casino shutdown. Here is March 25th.

https://media.cardplayer.com/assets/.../33_07_web.pdf

Omg, Omg, maybe you missed that schools in many , many places are CLOSED.

Stop using the internets, you are clogging up the series of pipes that valuable vaccines need to travel through.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ccine-be-ready

It costs +1b to develop a vaccine. They wanted to make the vaccine but didn't get the money as it was not urgent. as it was contained. Now it is urgent they have to make it.

Cardplayer magazine for free is over-priced .... always has been

Looks like they made that issue weeks ago with talk of cruises and all the tournaments listed that are now cancelled.

Probably, they took the ad money and are damned if they were going to give ANY back, not that publisher ....so, they "published".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1150091

We just could not generate much interest," a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.

Well, that makes much more sense - you're actually talking about a SARS vaccine, that I guess they hope could be used (or modified) for the current virus. If that would've worked, that's a huge shame, although I have my doubts that it's as simple as if they had their funding, we'd now have a vaccine. Regardless, I have no idea why you'd blame America for this.

Also, we have no idea if this Dr. Hortez and his vaccine are legit. I'm not saying they aren't, but we're relying on one article, with him as the source. But if he's on to something, hopefully he gets his funding now.

That said, my apologies - this is probably more legit than you made it sound. Aside from the America pulling the strings part, that is.

The News here in Australia is saying that we won’t be going because we’ve shut down all international travel. I would have assumed it may have reopened by then but the way they’ve announced it is as if that won’t be the case

No probs I heard it more than once from virologists and Joe Rogan in the last video. Yes modified it's like building a car from what I understood

I am one of those vulnerable people that is expecting a letter (or text message) from the NHS in the next couple of days. Since I've been following the virus outbreak since mid-January (and I own a time-machine that sometimes works when I headbutt the steering wheel) I started adding a few additional products (an extra jar of coffee, some soup etc) to my shopping basket before the "panic" set in, so that I would be able to cope with a self-imposed quarantine of two to three weeks. I was going to add a few more items along with my standard purchases when I went to the shop a week ago, but a load of crazy people emptied the shelves before I got there, so I ended up with even less than usual.
I'm now about to enter 12 weeks of isolation, but I only have about a month's worth of food. (Other vulnerable people are much worse off). Fortunately, it appears that community groups, or even the army, are going to be delivering supplies to people like me, so I'll be alright, but it will be hard for the community volunteers to get food to me if people that aren't in lockdown keep buying stuff they don't need. Supermarkets are staying open. If you can get to the shops, you don't need to buy (much) more than usual.

If everyone panic-buys more than they need, for purely selfish reasons, you get a tragedy of the commons. i.e. If everyone tries to stock up, like you recommended, the shelves will end up empty for everyone, including you. If people just bought their usual amount, there would be no shortages.

This former olympics swimmer looks like he had similar struggles to the marathon runner you mentioned.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/olympi...-ever-endured/

The SARS-COV-2 virus (which causes Covid-19) is constantly evolving and mutating, but at a relatively slow rate in comparison to other viruses, like HIV for example. You can see a 'family tree' of the 946 samples (so far) that have had their genes sequenced at https://nextstrain.org/ncov
On the left of the tree are the oldest samples, collected from Hubei. Thanks to the colour-coding, you can see that most of the American samples (shown in red) came from the same branch of the tree, but have been mutating into slightly different versions as time went on, such that a case in Utah is almost certainly a "grandchild" of an earlier variant in Washington State, and a case in Melbourne, Australia also had an ancestor in Washington.
Some of these strains have more mutations than others, with the basic idea that the further you move to the right on the chart, the more evolved/mutated the samples are. Most of the American samples show an average divergence. It's actually a couple of samples from Belgium that have the most mutations, but that's probably just a quirk of randomness.

Having a lot of mutations doesn't necessarily mean a variant is more or less dangerous. For one thing, this virus has close to 30,000 bits of information in its genes, and only a handful of changes have occurred in them, so every version is almost identical. It's still Coronavirus-19, in much the same way that a banana from one tree might be slightly larger than a banana from a different tree, but they are still bananas of the same species. Secondly, when viruses mutate (usually detected over a larger time scale), they tend to become more contagious, but less deadly, or more deadly, but less contagious. Occasionally you get a double-whammy of them being more contagious and more deadly than previously (like the 'Spanish' flu of 1918), but sometimes the random mutations lead a virus to evolve itself almost out of existence. That's why some flu outbreaks are worse than others, and also why a new flu vaccine has to be made every year (and sometimes even more frequently).

At this point in time, there is no suggestion (AFAIK) that any of the variants found thus far are "worse" than others. It's killing people all over the world, and there has continued to be international transmission. (Some Americans are getting a version that had an ancestor that sent its 'children' to Europe and those had at least one child that returned to the US! There were bad viruses on both sides.)

Agree.

Remember how their primary sponsor was Lock Poker, long after it was clear nobody was getting paid?

I even told Jeff Shulman myself, and he acted like he cared, but did nothing.

What a joke Cardplayer became.

David 'Doc' Sands (remember him?) practiced 'extreme hygiene', yet still caught the virus. He's written a thread about how it affected him:

And how he goes for walks with his family after testing positive so he can infect others. Nice guy.

did he tank for 15 minute before he finally hit submit on the tweet?