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11-06-2010 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by plox
i hope everyone is clever enough to not join the skype conversation tomorrow.
unless they want to hear the other side of the argument!

This is an issue of great importance. A player is being accused of unspeakable things. Hear his arguments and judge after that.

Join the press confrence. Add "Yamzit" at Skype

Tommorow 6 pm CET; 1pm East Coast
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11-06-2010 , 01:35 AM
its so nice to know that Ali, Perica Bukara and Edmund Buiac-Cazacu
will get massive problems with the german justice and the
german pokercommunity for this stupid way of scamming!
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11-06-2010 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozzytiger
Its was a desperation AIPF. Even 72o vs AKs AIPF it could easily go either way. If this was massive all in river bluff that got called by 10 high or something. Ok go to 2plus2 and unleash cheating rumors.

Close the thread. This Ali went all in preflop with a very good chance of losing the hand. Who ever is in charge of the security at the tourney, get your heaDS OUT OF YOUR butt and fix this issue with the crazy cameraman everywhere. People might be going to jail, big money at stake. live and reputations at stake.

BOTTOM LINE, ALL BLAME SHOULD FALL ON THE TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS LACK OF RULES AND SECURITY. ROPE OFF THE AREA OR SOMETHING THAT WAS BS HAVING ALL THOSE PEOPLE ROAMING FREELY. WTF
Do you even have any idea wtf is going on in this thread? No one argued that the video by itself proves hes a cheater.

He just got disqualified from one of the largest tournament in the world and many players who have played with him or saw him playing all share the feeling that he is at least very shady.

I agree that the video isn't strong evidence by itself but put in context it is extremely relevant.

Now why the **** would you suggest closing a thread that wasn't about that video in the first place?
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11-06-2010 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamzit
unless they want to hear the other side of the argument!

This is an issue of great importance. A player is being accused of unspeakable things. Hear his arguments and judge after that.

Join the press confrence. Add "Yamzit" at Skype

Tommorow 6 pm CET; 1pm East Coast
There isn't really an argument though. You guys are the one who want to argue because you are the ones apparently in the wrong.

Evidence has been put forward (of which we are all still uncertain) which apparently proves you have been cheating. How are you going to argue against that without knowing what the evidence is? Your conference is a complete waste of time.

You have no way of proving you weren't cheating but PPT have lots of ways to prove you were. No argument. What you are attempting to do with this ******** conference is buy people who will support you and i hope you fail miserably in your attempts.

The fact you guys come in this thread and claim this is all some sort of racist attack (LOL, so the poker world has waited for this exact moment to launch it's first racist attack on some random turkish luckbox..right) and then sway away from that when you're told how ridiculous those accusations are and then go to "I KNOW, we will hold a conference to argue our side" speaks volumes.

Good luck with your conference you cheating scumbags.

*disclaimer - i'm going with nothing but my gut on this one. Maybe it's the fact that english isn't these trolls first language but their conduct in this thread just seems so fishy to me. If you guys are cleared of this i will own up to being too harsh and apologise.
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11-06-2010 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamzit
OK i am trying to arrange a Video Press Confrence at the moment. So far Ali does not have a webcam, but we are trying to organize one. I think we will be able to purchuase one tomorrow.

The official time is:

18:00 CET
19:00 London
23:00 New York

I hope i got the times right because of summer time and stuff

Just add "Yamzit" on skype and ill add you asap. Im going to bed now. See you tomorrow.
lol, yeah, you're definitely smart enough to win at poker without cheating. you didn't get the times right, and it wasn't "summer time" messing you up. anyways, i'd love to tune in, i really would, but instead i'll just go win the poker tournament without a cheater at the table.

and i have to say, many many kudos to partouche for bringing this to light... i'm sure the proof on video is pretty damning, but it's a risky move in general. i do think it speaks highly of the integrity of the company, or what they are trying to become, that they are willing to dirty the name of their own tour a bit in the interest of fairness.
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11-06-2010 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by runondiesel
Do you even have any idea wtf is going on in this thread? No one argued that the video by itself proves hes a cheater.

He just got disqualified from one of the largest tournament in the world and many players who have played with him or saw him playing all share the feeling that he is at least very shady.

I agree that the video isn't strong evidence by itself but put in context it is extremely relevant.

Now why the **** would you suggest closing a thread that wasn't about that video in the first place?
Bottom line, It should be all but impossible to cheat. Cheating and poker is nothing new, all possible loopholes should be closed.

Umm yea guess i should maybe go back and read a couple more pages. LOL Im posting all kinds of unrelated arguments. oops
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11-06-2010 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamzit
unless they want to hear the other side of the argument!

This is an issue of great importance. A player is being accused of unspeakable things. Hear his arguments and judge after that.

Join the press confrence. Add "Yamzit" at Skype

Tommorow 6 pm CET; 1pm East Coast

***** scumbag
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11-06-2010 , 01:48 AM
This is not the first racist attack on Ali. He got kicked out of a czech casino. There is no evidence so far except for some videos showing some reporter taking photos and ali calling a very small all in with Q5. Look at some Nash Eq. stuff its super std.

This is a real propaganda attack on Ali. People just cant cope with him. He was not thrown out of the EPT Tallin as many of youm claim. This is the very FIRST tourney that banned him. Ali will state his responses tomorrow. And i know most of you will further rant against him even after all charges against him are dropped. Why does the PPT not show the footage? Because there is no footage that supports their claims.
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11-06-2010 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fslexcduck
lol, yeah, you're definitely smart enough to win at poker without cheating. you didn't get the times right, and it wasn't "summer time" messing you up. anyways, i'd love to tune in, i really would, but instead i'll just go win the poker tournament without a cheater at the table.

and i have to say, many many kudos to partouche for bringing this to light... i'm sure the proof on video is pretty damning, but it's a risky move in general. i do think it speaks highly of the integrity of the company, or what they are trying to become, that they are willing to dirty the name of their own tour a bit in the interest of fairness.
Hey Vanessa,
I have a few Qs if you don't mind.
Are you allowed to say anything about the accusations? Were you contacted by the partouche 'police' during their investigation? Did you notice anything shady while you were playing? Did the players bring up this issue to the staff?
Thanks and best of luck tomorrow.
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11-06-2010 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fslexcduck
lol, yeah, you're definitely smart enough to win at poker without cheating. you didn't get the times right, and it wasn't "summer time" messing you up. anyways, i'd love to tune in, i really would, but instead i'll just go win the poker tournament without a cheater at the table.

and i have to say, many many kudos to partouche for bringing this to light... i'm sure the proof on video is pretty damning, but it's a risky move in general. i do think it speaks highly of the integrity of the company, or what they are trying to become, that they are willing to dirty the name of their own tour a bit in the interest of fairness.
Hello Mrs. Selbst. It is awfully inpolite of you calling Ali a cheater. I know you love the situation because i got you an extra 20k for sure. But what do you expect.... to be honest all other players profit for the Cheat of the Tour to ban Ali
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11-06-2010 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by runondiesel
Hey Vanessa,
I have a few Qs if you don't mind.
Are you allowed to say anything about the accusations? Were you contacted by the partouche 'police' during their investigation? Did you notice anything shady while you were playing? Did the players bring up this issue to the staff?
Thanks and best of luck tomorrow.
Nope, we had basically no info... just showed up yesterday, and they told us what was up. Oh and also, Ali was one of the few people I didn't actually play with during the tourney, so I have no opinions on that. I have heard many other shady stories though, and also other news that confirms these accusations (that I'm obv not going to repeat since they're trying to keep things somewhat under wraps during a longer investigation).
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11-06-2010 , 01:56 AM
can someone get a mod to ban these 2 idiots?
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11-06-2010 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamzit
This is not the first racist attack on Ali. He got kicked out of a czech casino.
Sorry if this was mentioned earlier but why did he get kicked out? Where there more accusations?

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Originally Posted by Yamzit
There is no evidence so far except for some videos showing some reporter taking photos and ali calling a very small all in with Q5. Look at some Nash Eq. stuff its super std.
You seem to be getting confused with a video that was posted on youtube and actual evidence.

This is a poker forum my friend, a lot of people here know what's standard... without seeing the stack sizes or having any sort of report on the hand we have no idea just how standard it is. If it's so super standard why didn't Ali snap call when he looked at his cards?

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Originally Posted by Yamzit
Why does the PPT not show the footage? Because there is no footage that supports their claims.
Because it is evidence in a criminal investigation. Not because there is no footage.
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11-06-2010 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamzit
This is not the first racist attack on Ali. He got kicked out of a czech casino. There is no evidence so far except for some videos showing some reporter taking photos and ali calling a very small all in with Q5. Look at some Nash Eq. stuff its super std.

This is a real propaganda attack on Ali. People just cant cope with him. He was not thrown out of the EPT Tallin as many of youm claim. This is the very FIRST tourney that banned him. Ali will state his responses tomorrow. And i know most of you will further rant against him even after all charges against him are dropped. Why does the PPT not show the footage? Because there is no footage that supports their claims.
nice to know that he was kicked out of the kings casino pierca too?
i think this was the training camp of the scumbags the hendonmob of ali and percia show that so obviously thanks for provide evidence of the cheat!

you are so great!
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11-06-2010 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamzit
He was not thrown out of the EPT Tallin as many of youm claim.
He was CL after day 1A. I cannot find him in the rankings or on a list with chipcounts on day 2 and nothing about his exit was reported in the media.
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11-06-2010 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AsRequested
He was CL after day 1A. I cannot find him in the rankings or on a list with chipcounts on day 2 and nothing about his exit was reported in the media.
he finished 36th http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=46278
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11-06-2010 , 02:09 AM
oh alright sry - when googling i was spelling him the way he was spelled in the op, with a k instead of a c
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11-06-2010 , 02:13 AM
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11-06-2010 , 02:16 AM
all i have to say is that im from germany too and i (and also my friends) never heard of this ali before. so he is def no "hero" or something over here.
maybe he is a hero for some guys in berlin who chill the hole day in some betting shops.. but also guys who place bets on some weird 200 game-combos and luckily win them one time are heros for them...
so its just sooooooo strange that this guy has its own "blogger team" bc really no one cares about this guy here.

the rest is a job for the police and i hope that if there is a proof (and it really looks like there is) that they cheated they will have to pay back there winnings and are getting what they deserve.
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11-06-2010 , 02:16 AM
so he is using the zoom of the camera to get a much closer look at that players cards?
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11-06-2010 , 02:23 AM
couldn't figure out what this thread kept reminding me of. finally figured it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434
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11-06-2010 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by apefish
couldn't figure out what this thread kept reminding me of. finally figured it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434
QFT
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11-06-2010 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamzit
He bought his family and friends many nice things with this money that he is now not recieving!
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11-06-2010 , 02:35 AM
Ali, if you are reading this: don't hire Mehmet or Yamzit to represent you if you have to go to court because of cheating scumbaggery :-) Ignoring all relevant questions and using the "racist curtain" will very likely not help you.

Further, why are people who are defending (very likely) cheating morons, so often newbies like Yamzit and Mehmet (or are you one of them?)

One final question ali, why are you surrounded by so much bloggers and fat dudes with camera's while there is no website?
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11-06-2010 , 02:38 AM
I don't think that the video shows much of anything. FFS its a poker reporter, of course he is looking to sneak a peak at cards.

Its like sending me to cover a playboy mansion party and saying, but don't look directly at any nude 38DDs or 3 knuckled camel toes. And if you do, DO NOT FEEL NERVOUS and make some gesture that could be put on youtube where we will show you looking directly at "the goods". This will draw ridicule from the most well known porno videographers and producers for OBVIOUSLY being nervous and not zooming in for the money shot.

Um.... ok well maybe not EXACTLY like that, but you see what Im sayin'

Honestly we should just come out with a tour like WWE Hardcore where you can just cheat the living demon babies out of each other including foreign objects and randomly placed shanks under the table. Then we can put a bunch of bloggers in to cover and broadcast to us in the safety of our homes.

*cool story bro*

Last edited by Pcallinallin; 11-06-2010 at 02:39 AM. Reason: THE CUBE WOULD SOLVE ALL THIS!
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