color me as like 21% interested as in prior years

I played and would like a refund but I'm not outraged over it. There's just a lot of competition for my time and entertainment dollars.

If it's not resolved by the time this series rolls around the odds are basically around zero for me to play in this series.

Unless they step out of the same ole same ole and run a tourney that would be of particular interest to me like an 8 game, draw mixed, or dealers choice.

Agreed, I can't wait for the $500+200 events Borgata will be hosting soon.

Guys calm down. It is still in the hand of NJDGE. Borgata can't do anything at present even they would like to.

I don't have any inside info. But I believe borgata will do every thing in their capacity to satisfy its customer base when time comes.

My gut feeling is Borgata would like to settle without going for ugly litigation .
They are smart enough to take care of large customer base in a reasonable way.

they wont be seeing me, screw this bull crap! their last update on feb 7th said a resolution would be soon, ive recently emailed, called, left messages, nothing, now theres a civil lawsuit against them, ive said it before, no one should enter their mtts until this is resolved. this could be you. they need written rules and remedies in case this were to happen again, all i have to say to any of you who go into one of their mtts: "lifes hard, its harder when your stupid"

Class action law suits are a joke. Only the lawyers get any money. Would not be surprised if multiple law firms jump on this.

Sorry to hear about your harder life !!
How pathetic his thinking is!!
Any one don't subscribe to his views are stupid !!

hahaha! your supposed to learn from others mistakes, unfortunately i am the example and just trying to give a word to the wise. proceed at your own risk...

True most of the time.
If borgata offers any thing reasonable, most of the player will accept and would not join class action.

I completely understand yours
(and other 26 remaining players) frustrations but don't insult other who don't agree with you for any reason.

No one will be entitled to damages beyond Buy Ins except maybe the 27 remaining. At this point no one has been denied anything in writing. Smart thing to do is wait until final disposition from Borgata and if not satisfied, then legal action would be the path. If you proceed now to squeeze them with legal action, all involved in the class action would forfeit probably 25 to 30 percent of any money recovered to the lawyers. That's generally how class action suits are handled. Might get more money if you just wait.

Can someone post the TL/DR of this thread?
218 pages, can't read it.

215 pages = peoples opinions / outcome
2 pages = updates
.5 pages = I don't even know


As of right now we're waiting on the division of gaming, I say we hear something by next Friday.

Lusardi is in jail

I haven't read all of this - and I'm not about to now. However, I am surprised that there is an issue here of refunding the buy in monies. Why wouldn't/hasn't Borgata already done this?

Just from a public relations standpoint, I would think that the refunding would be automatic. Sure, Borgata takes a hit. But, aren't they going to take a much bigger hit PR wise if they don't pay? Why would anyone play a tournament there again?

Why should Borgata profit from a criminal act, even though they almost certainly didn't have anything to do with it? Don't they have a responsibility to keep this sort of thing from happening?

Maybe I'm missing something here missing something here.....

Lee

Borgata has to wait for gaming a decision which is understandable. They don't want to pay or refund a cheater if they can stop it. But some people in this thread actually many feel borgata had no responsibility whatsoever which baffles me.


Also I heard from someone there was 30k in fake chips discovered thurs day 3 at around 6pm or so. So confusing why they kept on playing and wouldn't check right then and there.

IMO if anything Borgata is stuck between rock and hard place . They have to wait until investigation is completed by NJDGE. So far they are saying is"we are waiting for NJDGE to issue a directive order"

I don't think anything is stopping them from offering some statement like they appreciate their customers and will strive to make things right for everyone once the NJDGE has done its work

lol I'm calm..as I said I'm not outraged...if Tab was on fire, I'd still piss on him

But personally it does not help them that I like several events on the WSOP schedule. The Dealer's Choice, the Monster stack etc.

I have choices with my time and $$$. So instead of the Spring Open I'll go to Vegas for a more extended trip.

[QUOTE=pipes;42261947]lol I'm calm..as I said I'm not outraged...if Tab was on fire, I'd still piss on him

But personally it does not help them that I like several events on the WSOP schedule. The Dealer's Choice, the Monster stack etc.

I have choices with my time and $$$. So instead of the Spring Open I'll go to Vegas for a more extended trip.[/

[QUOTE=riverph7;42262368] did you mean to reply or did you quote me for truth?

From my end, they have just been running the same ole schedule out for years. They just change the dates. So that combined with this makes my time go elsewhere imo

These were all underground poker games. One got busted inaug and we got busted in Oct. it was all POker related. It was ALE ( alcohol law enforcement) who oversees gambling AND homeland security. No one was arrested. Gambling is a misdemeanor and everyone's case got dismissed. However thy took everything. TVA, tables, vacuum cleaners, computers, chips, cards everything that wasn't nailed down. Cash they only got from our game less than 5k. It probably cost more with the 20+ swat team members and all the others that came it. All for misdemeanor charges.

See you at the Spring open!

Lawsuit=Fail

Borgata didn't do anything different than a hundred other casinos that run MTT's.

AWESOME!

It'll either be dismissed or....

1) The lawyers will get millions, and...

2) The players will get a buffet comp.

I'm not familiar enough with the laws in New Jersey to say that this is wrong - but is the Borgata really in a position where they legally can't refund the buy-ins? Seems a little strange, if true.

And, if that is the case, then why not just come out and say so? Can the DJDGE really force Borgata NOT to issue refunds? Is that even a remote possibility?

Why can't Borgata take the position that as soon as DJDGE completes their investigation all monies will be refunded?

Lee

PS: I'm also wondering what happens to the rest of the prize pool here. Certainly can't be right for Borgata to keep it. Or the State, for that matter......

All the opinion or suggestions you see here are just the wishful thinking or educated guess as not enough information made available by NJDGE about the investigation .

NJDGE can issue 3 or 4 different orders based on their investigation.

1 , Tournament was canceled and issue refunds to every one.
2, Tournament was affected at some point so issue refund who were affected (day 1b and day 1c)
3,what to do with 27 players who are still in the tourney.
4, what to do with pay out already made.

So until any clear directive from NJDGE , Borgata is unable to do anything .

No matter what is the outcome Borgata will take some kind of $$ hit.

And some one will be unhappy !! And there is possibility of legal actions too.

But I agree with one thing many of poster feels here that Borgata should have kept us more informed with regular updates.