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05-17-2012 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GoMuckYourselfBro
I'll take a stab in the dark at dissecting your prediction chinamaniac.

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Don't know anyone at pocket kings even though I have about 25 % Irish in me. I did make Supernova 3 years in a row


05-17-2012 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by skaitynas
China, didn't You bet it would be this week?
I negotiated and got till 24th midnight. Still leaves us a week in this 31 day month

If there is a delay because something changes then I lose it's that simple. I can tell you with utter certainty that there is a little more being discussed than the payout process but it shouldn't delay or complicate things.

The World Series starts June 5th. One would have to "assume" they would want this taken care of before then as that would totally make sense on many levels.
05-17-2012 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by V-Delaney
I guess 's post kinda confirms that Stars are interested. I still kinda thought it might all be rumors
To be fair, you don't need an inside source to know that someone is still in play to buy the company in some fashion. GBT is gone, the leaked email indicated that PK is close to dry in terms of cash, so the fact that they are still there and have not filed for Bankruptcy, etc (i.e. there has been no traditional media announcement of 200ish jobs gone overnight in Dublin) means that talks with a potential investor are ongoing.

What I would suggest to people is that any announcement next week will be similar to the LA Times announcement from last summer or the GBT announcement late last October: i.e. it will be another commitment to purchase, rather than all the i's dotted and t's crossed finalisation of a sale. To put it in simpler terms, any positive announcement next week would still entail a delay of a couple of months before FTP (in whatever form it takes) is back up online and players are being reimbursed.

Personally, I just hope the staff that have stuck it out in there have their jobs secured at the end of this whole fiasco.
05-17-2012 , 05:01 AM
will pokerstars buy UB as well or is Tapie now in negotiations to purchase UB?
05-17-2012 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidian
will pokerstars buy UB as well or is Tapie now in negotiations to purchase UB?
I dunno but I wish the DOJ could just appoint Hellmuth and Duke new owners Of AP UB , convict them of fraud, throw them in jail, take every penny they have ever earned and make them grind 1c 2c nonstop till they are 70
05-17-2012 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
I dunno but I wish the DOJ could just appoint Hellmuth and Duke new owners Of AP UB , convict them of fraud, throw them in jail, take every penny they have ever earned and make them grind 1c 2c nonstop till they are 70
source?
05-17-2012 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blizzuff
source?
LOL

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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
I negotiated and got till 24th midnight. Still leaves us a week in this 31 day month

If there is a delay because something changes then I lose it's that simple. I can tell you with utter certainty that there is a little more being discussed than the payout process but it shouldn't delay or complicate things.

The World Series starts June 5th. One would have to "assume" they would want this taken care of before then as that would totally make sense on many levels.
China... what is your background into having an "in the know" source on this whole ordeal? Why are you the one with spreading the rumors about getting an announcement next week? Why isn't someone who is more in the know telling someone of a bigger rep these things and having them spread to ease the pain of all these people with money stuck on this "site"?

Last edited by SGT RJ; 05-17-2012 at 11:26 AM.
05-17-2012 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
China... what is your background into having an "in the know" source on this whole ordeal? Why are you the one with spreading the rumors about getting an announcement next week? Why isn't someone who is more in the know telling someone of a bigger rep these things and having them spread to ease the pain of all these people with money stuck on this "site"?
Because those people you think are "in the know" either

A. don't know anything or they would report it

B. or they are not at liberty to say certain things which is understandable. As is the case with a most "in the know" people I have spoken with

I am not tipping my hand on my sources or where I am getting information. I did what I felt was right and had a conversation with Todd to confirm I'm not blowing smoke up the communities ass. If that's not good enough for you then so be it.

Things are happening, they are moving fast and good news is coming. That is all I can say right now.
05-17-2012 , 06:02 AM
I don't doubt good news is coming, it's the 'when' that seems to be the major sticking point right now.

I think it's a lot easier than most think to get in touch with "sources" in this mess, the ultimate call you have to make after speaking to them is whether or not their information is actual fact or a combination of half-truths, chinese whispers and hope.

I hope I'm wrong Chinaman, but I'd guess your information is the latter.
05-17-2012 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GoMuckYourselfBro
I don't doubt good news is coming, it's the 'when' that seems to be the major sticking point right now.

I think it's a lot easier than most think to get in touch with "sources" in this mess, the ultimate call you have to make after speaking to them is whether or not their information is actual fact or a combination of half-truths, chinese whispers and hope.

I hope I'm wrong Chinaman, but I'd guess your information is the latter.
No pun intended?
05-17-2012 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
No pun intended?
None whatsoever.
05-17-2012 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
I disagree because no one has a source inside the DOJ. All the info we get is entangled with hidden agendas.
Neither sentence above is true.
05-17-2012 , 07:54 AM
Where are all the well known pros that could give us some information regarding what they know? Tell us something I mean wtf. You guys know who you are.

Your silence disgusts me. I hope all of you run terrible for the rest of your poker careers.
05-17-2012 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Neither sentence above is true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superlative
05-17-2012 , 08:50 AM
I think we can relax, I know time is killing us waiting for official news, but with PokerStars now in and Tapie's out the deal will go through and we will get our money back.

Not just because they feel bad about us, BUT because the deal will ensure PS or FTP whichever will be back in the US. It is all about money and that is why we will get paid eventually.

But like all, it is very frustrating.
05-17-2012 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Ok I asked that because I am not interested in swaying people one way or the other when money is on the line. The same with the people who have asked me whether to buy up accounts etc. It's just not my thing, I haven't bought up anything or made any bets on it, and it's not why I work on this.

That said, I don't want to diminish what China is trying to do. I think he has a source that he believes is credible. We've been thru this before and if memory serves, Sgt actually warned him not to go that route again without telling her who the source was etc. So I don't think he goes there lightly, at least not in this forum.

That said, on May 12, he posted here similar information that he posted elsewhere on May 1. On May 12 he said the announcement would come no later than 3rd week May. On May 13th he confirmed that THIS was the 3rd week in May (now). I haven't followed closely enough to know how the bets turned out or if they really total over $1500 as someone told me, but I will say this. There is no source who really knows what is happening that would say, even reinforce as late as yesterday, that this announcement will come this week. I think there are likely "sources" that think they know things, and try to guess at the rest, which is pretty normal I suppose. But there is no way that anyone in the know says that this happens this week. It won't.

If all the stars align, it is optimistic to believe there could be an announcement this month, but even that is unsure at this time. Important details are still being worked out. We can keep fingers crossed that it happens soon. I am absolutely not saying that this announcement won't happen, just that it won't be this week.
If this turns out to be true, I believe china should be perma banned. The Scott thing was one of the most annoying and bizarre derailments I have ever read through and I am sick of this guy begging for attention all the time. If he is right, well then great, but for once he should be punished if he is not like he told he would be back in the Scott days.
05-17-2012 , 09:38 AM
If he is right then he likely gets to be a bit of a 2+2 celebrity for a while. If he is trolling/leveling he gets his rocks off when everyone who falls for his game gets let down. There will be no real punishment or repercussions. IMHO Chinamaniac is in a win win situation no matter how it comes out. Hope it is for real, but seriously doubt it!
05-17-2012 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit
If he is right then he likely gets to be a bit of a 2+2 celebrity for a while. If he is trolling/leveling he gets his rocks off when everyone who falls for his game gets let down. There will be no real punishment or repercussions. IMHO Chinamaniac is in a win win situation no matter how it comes out. Hope it is for real, but seriously doubt it!
Well, the mods should ensure he never posts again. If that is how he gets his rocks off, it's not a win win to risk it.
05-17-2012 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Neither sentence above is true.
The first sentence might not be true, but I'm not sure how you can be so confident the second one isn't.
05-17-2012 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by insidemanpoker
If this turns out to be true, I believe china should be perma banned. The Scott thing was one of the most annoying and bizarre derailments I have ever read through and I am sick of this guy begging for attention all the time. If he is right, well then great, but for once he should be punished if he is not like he told he would be back in the Scott days.
If what turns out to be true I should be perma banned?. Very comical of DF to post there is no source when DF can't really know that.

DF has done some good writeups etc. but at the same time making a broad statement like that when DF isn't walking in my shoes is a little odd considering DF hasn't a clue of who anyone else knows or talks to but DF and those close to DF and I have made a point to stay distant from DF and chose my own credible people to deal with.

Let's get this clear I am not looking for attention here. I posted what I posted because it is real and and that's it. It's posters like you who are stirring things up requesting for bans and trying to get more info that isn't available.
05-17-2012 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
If what turns out to be true I should be perma banned?. Very comical of DF to post there is no source when DF can't really know that.

DF has done some good writeups etc. but at the same time making a broad statement like that when DF isn't walking in my shoes is a little odd considering DF hasn't a clue of who anyone else knows or talks to but DF and those close to DF and I have made a point to stay distant from DF and chose my own credible people to deal with.

Let's get this clear I am not looking for attention here. I posted what I posted because it is real and and that's it. It's posters like you who are stirring things up requesting for bans and trying to get more info that isn't available.

You stay clear of people like diamond flush but you listen to credible sources such as a Scott Matusow imposter?? You are a joke and I don't get how anyone has even listened to you. When next week passes you will look just as foolish as you did last time you wanted to play the I have inside info game. Unfortunately the rest of us will still be out money.
05-17-2012 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinamaniac
I negotiated and got till 24th midnight. Still leaves us a week in this 31 day month

If there is a delay because something changes then I lose it's that simple. I can tell you with utter certainty that there is a little more being discussed than the payout process but it shouldn't delay or complicate things.

The World Series starts June 5th. One would have to "assume" they would want this taken care of before then as that would totally make sense on many levels.
You can't even get the start date of the WSOP right. June 5th is Event 12 already....
05-17-2012 , 11:29 AM
Everyone, please stop stating someone should be banned for being wrong.

If everyone in the FTP containment thread was banned for being wrong, there'd be very few people left to argue.

Stating he has a source (as long as it's not SM) and being willing to put his money where his mouth is is in no way against forum rules.

That said, china if this one doesn't pan out I'll probably ask you not to post ANY inside source information on here, given your history and the derailments it tends to cause.

FWIW, "pan out" doesn't necessarily mean you win the bet, since if an announcement were to occur on the 31st that would suggest your source was right that one was coming, just off on the timing.
05-17-2012 , 11:32 AM
Yeah lets draw a line under this and move

05-17-2012 , 11:35 AM
I assume some sarcastic ridicule will be in order if it turns out to be the trolling that many expect! Banning would limit that too much!

      
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