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04-25-2012 , 11:41 AM

#2626

Mr. Wu

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtlad

Who are you with your 7 posts since June 2011? NoahSD deleted this thread, then re opened it when he recieved suggestions that the story might have news. OP may have started it, but no one is denying it, so let us speculate until it is proven unspeculatable.

so how many posts do I need to question something?

04-25-2012 , 11:42 AM

#2627

dirtlad

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 457

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gankstar

I agree...but what I'm asking is: How can they say "you operated unlawfully for 5 years" if in fact charges get dropped in the deal, not plead guilty to (even lesser charges)? Or if in fact those who plead out plead to charges that pertain to them, not the company?

I'm probably just asking a silly question...but this whole thing is fairly confusing to me as a non-lawyer.

What is claimed by the DOJ hasn't been proven through the courts. So, if PS and the DOJ work out a deal whereby the claims are dropped or reduced substantially, it doesn't mean the claims were wrong, it just means the DOJ received enough money to prove a point. I doubt that the DOJ wants to go to court, because they may be found to be wrong. I doubt that PS wants to go to court, because it is expensive, and they may be found to be wrong.

Sometimes money does fix problems.

04-25-2012 , 11:42 AM

#2628

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,508

Sounds like good news for the rumor as I was pretty sure FTP had the patent on this locked up pretty tight

http://www.pokerstars.net/poker/zoom/

04-25-2012 , 11:43 AM

#2629

Money4Aces

grinder

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 542

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wu

so how many posts do I need to question something?

You needed 8. Congratulations, you may now speculate.

04-25-2012 , 11:43 AM

#2630

FishNChips1

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,774

Diamond flush said some week ago that the best case scenario would be a reopen in late may. Now that all this has happened, is there any chance the site will be up and running before WSOP, or is it a new 7 month wait coming?

04-25-2012 , 11:44 AM

#2631

Matsu

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 4

i hate myself still waiting for u

04-25-2012 , 11:46 AM

#2632

Underrated

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 870

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishNChips1

this

04-25-2012 , 11:46 AM

#2633

joshuadalton

adept

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,122

Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Sounds like good news for the rumor as I was pretty sure FTP had the patent on this locked up pretty tight

http://www.pokerstars.net/poker/zoom/

They applied, but the patent was pending.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/rush-poker/patent-pending

04-25-2012 , 11:47 AM

#2634

NiSash1337

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 9,185

Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Sounds like good news for the rumor as I was pretty sure FTP had the patent on this locked up pretty tight

http://www.pokerstars.net/poker/zoom/

You are like 3.5 months late, now go back to your cage.

04-25-2012 , 11:49 AM

#2635

Matsu

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiSash1337

You are like 3.5 months late, now go back to your cage.

04-25-2012 , 11:50 AM

#2636

Hash1982

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 515

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEMplsJW

Pretty sure she did. I will have to look once im at a pc.

I always look out for Diamond's post and she has never used the word 'adamant' in talking about GBT's potential accusation of FTP. Good journalists are very careful in their choice of words. Being patient as their are many steps to be completed for the (now dead) deal to go through, yes. Adamant that the deal would go through, no.

04-25-2012 , 11:51 AM

#2637

ItsNotLupus

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 487

Is the OP still up to date or has there been more REAL news?

04-25-2012 , 11:53 AM

#2638

pkmikhail

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsNotLupus

Is the OP still up to date or has there been more REAL news?

04-25-2012 , 11:53 AM

#2639

NthingToLose

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,398

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsNotLupus

Is the OP still up to date or has there been more REAL news?

No confirmed real news

04-25-2012 , 11:55 AM

#2640

tamiller866

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,651

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gankstar

They won't have to say that, while most of the bills that have been proposed contain some type of exclusionary language (accepted wagers from U.S. players after Jan 1, 2007, e.g.) in reality they aren't even required to give a gaming applicant a reason for denying an application.

The Nevada Supreme court ruled:

Quote:

We view gaming as a matter reserved to the states within the meaning of the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Within this context we find no room for federally protected constitutional rights. This distinctively state problem is to be governed, controlled and regulated by the state legislature and, to the extent the legislature decrees, by the Nevada Constitution. It is apparent that if we were to recognize federal protections of this wholly privileged state enterprise, necessary state control would be substantially diminished and federal intrusion invited.

04-25-2012 , 11:57 AM

#2641

dcdoorknob

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 537

What this thread really needs is more monopoly related blowjob analogies.

04-25-2012 , 11:59 AM

#2642

Money4Aces

grinder

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 542

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3oyqbg/

04-25-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2643

Gankstar

adept

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,041

I'm sure this is already linked, but since it's credible news source and I don't feel like looking if it was already posted:

Wall Street Journal: PokerStars In Talks To Buy Full Tilt Poker

Don't have a subscription?...Me either. So I don't know if there is anything new there. Just another source with an affirmative claim a deal is being negotiated.

Quote:

Under the deal being discussed, PokerStars would acquire the assets of its smaller rival, according to the person. The deal would be part of a broader settlement of a civil case brought by the DOJ against the two companies, the person said.

The person sure has a lot to say for two paragraphs.

04-25-2012 , 12:00 PM

#2644

clockworkorange89

adept

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 709

something ive noticed from the OP and from deeb's post. The OP states "both sites back online". PS is online just not in the USA, is this a reference to both being back online in the USA? Deeb's statement made it sound like FTP at least would be let back on. I really wish there was clarification of this.

04-25-2012 , 12:05 PM

#2645

Gankstar

adept

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,041

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcdoorknob

What this thread really needs is more monopoly related blowjob analogies.

Would you settle for a visual aid instead?

04-25-2012 , 12:05 PM

#2646

Deuces McKracken

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9,839

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtlad

But wasn't the shut down initiated by just one Attorney's office? What is to stop another district from doing the same thing?

There are some things that don't quite make sense here. Now that could be do to my naivete on the subject but please help me understand how this could be a serious consideration on the part of PS.

Does the U.S. market have to be open to justify FT's price tag? I would think it would with the rumors of the price tag. Yet, how can those markets be open? The attorney's office cannot just say "OK you can go back to operating now" after all this. After all this, there would have to be legislative action for anything to change. Right?

Is this some kind of conditional deal perhaps? Maybe PS would be willing to pay the players back just for the exclusive rights to buy FT for a set price conditioned on new legislation.

04-25-2012 , 12:07 PM

#2647

Videopro

Making TV

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 19,461

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrryjrryjin

I can't believe the 'monopoly' thing is even being discussed.. it's so incredibly ignorant.

Especially with a dozen companies including the major casino players applying for Nevada i-poker licenses. These sites will be open to ROW players where their country does not prohibit it.