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05-16-2012 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Star Wolf 64
Chinamaniac why not reveal the extent of what u know about the situation since u already let the cat out of the bag on the idea that the deal is donezo it might help ppl to believe u if u share details on potential cashouts, timeframes, FTP as a valid site etc.
That will make people's heads explode. He's already UTG here.
Best to just leave it as it is and see what happens me thinks...best for all of us.
05-16-2012 , 08:31 PM
China isn't just making this stuff up. I know a few people with connections who have nothing to do with China or Dan Druff, and these people are telling me the 23rd. Druff's post said the 25th, but that's pretty inconsequential. I think if it happens anywhere between now and the 25th, people will give China credit for being right.

Druff was banned for a personal dispute with Mason and David. Not gonna rehash it now but his being banned here shouldn't have any effect on whether you trust him. If he is claiming to be certain that China actually has a source, then China probably did hear something and isn't just jerking our chains. Maybe the source is wrong, but I think he really heard something, especially from what my other friends are telling me.
05-16-2012 , 08:39 PM
so next week huh
05-16-2012 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Toilet Bowl
China isn't just making this stuff up. I know a few people with connections who have nothing to do with China or Dan Druff, and these people are telling me the 23rd. Druff's post said the 25th, but that's pretty inconsequential. I think if it happens anywhere between now and the 25th, people will give China credit for being right.

Druff was banned for a personal dispute with Mason and David. Not gonna rehash it now but his being banned here shouldn't have any effect on whether you trust him. If he is claiming to be certain that China actually has a source, then China probably did hear something and isn't just jerking our chains. Maybe the source is wrong, but I think he really heard something, especially from what my other friends are telling me.
Let me just be the first to ask.... since everyone who reads this after me will wonder the same thing... any background info on your sources? Or how credible are they etc....?
05-16-2012 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Huskermoney00
Let me just be the first to ask.... since everyone who reads this after me will wonder the same thing... any background info on your sources? Or how credible are they etc....?
I don't have sources. My friends do. I didn't ask them much about it, but I heard pretty much the same from them as I'm hearing here from Chinamaniac.
05-16-2012 , 09:12 PM
Seems to be more sources than people owed $$$ at this point
05-16-2012 , 09:18 PM
Keep in mind that earlier in the thread, chinamaniac would quote scott matasow as a news source for weeks if not months
05-16-2012 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GrimeRat420
Keep in mind that earlier in the thread, chinamaniac would quote scott matasow as a news source for weeks if not months
Yea we have covered that.

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Originally Posted by Toilet Bowl
I don't have sources. My friends do. I didn't ask them much about it, but I heard pretty much the same from them as I'm hearing here from Chinamaniac.
If you're going to back up china... I would pry suggest you get some more info on their sources. I don't know why you wouldn't try and get some more info about these sources, especially if you are going to say things about them. People then get their hopes up and you are then labeled the next china. Just saying....

Last edited by SGT RJ; 05-17-2012 at 11:24 AM.
05-16-2012 , 09:51 PM
Can I assume that all bets have been made and that the bets are now closed?
05-16-2012 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Can I assume that all bets have been made and that the bets are now closed?
spill it!
05-16-2012 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo
spill it!
I lol'd! Does that mean yes?
05-16-2012 , 10:02 PM
yes now spill it
05-16-2012 , 10:03 PM
OK, I give China respect for coming through with the Dan Druff endorsement. I would prefer that he give info on his source to DF or NSD but this is at least something. I have no reason to think Druff is delusional or dishonest. I'm more of the mind now that the source is wrong, delusional or dishonest.

It doesn't make sense to me that there is a certain announcement coming given, firstly, that this situation is so complex, secondly, that info regarding the negotiations between stars and the DOJ is basically impossible to come by, and, thirdly, that DF doesn't have a reliable source confirming the certain announcement.
05-16-2012 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
I lol'd! Does that mean yes?
i think china said he's already booked action with a few diff people. I don't think theres any outstanding action waiting to be booked if thats what you're asking.
05-16-2012 , 10:16 PM
DF if you had to bet, which side would you take?

Edit: Well I guess this has been answered.
05-16-2012 , 10:16 PM
Ok I asked that because I am not interested in swaying people one way or the other when money is on the line. The same with the people who have asked me whether to buy up accounts etc. It's just not my thing, I haven't bought up anything or made any bets on it, and it's not why I work on this.

That said, I don't want to diminish what China is trying to do. I think he has a source that he believes is credible. We've been thru this before and if memory serves, Sgt actually warned him not to go that route again without telling her who the source was etc. So I don't think he goes there lightly, at least not in this forum.

That said, on May 12, he posted here similar information that he posted elsewhere on May 1. On May 12 he said the announcement would come no later than 3rd week May. On May 13th he confirmed that THIS was the 3rd week in May (now). I haven't followed closely enough to know how the bets turned out or if they really total over $1500 as someone told me, but I will say this. There is no source who really knows what is happening that would say, even reinforce as late as yesterday, that this announcement will come this week. I think there are likely "sources" that think they know things, and try to guess at the rest, which is pretty normal I suppose. But there is no way that anyone in the know says that this happens this week. It won't.

If all the stars align, it is optimistic to believe there could be an announcement this month, but even that is unsure at this time. Important details are still being worked out. We can keep fingers crossed that it happens soon. I am absolutely not saying that this announcement won't happen, just that it won't be this week.
05-16-2012 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Ok I asked that because I am not interested in swaying people one way or the other when money is on the line. The same with the people who have asked me whether to buy up accounts etc. It's just not my thing, I haven't bought up anything or made any bets on it, and it's not why I work on this.

That said, I don't want to diminish what China is trying to do. I think he has a source that he believes is credible. We've been thru this before and if memory serves, Sgt actually warned him not to go that route again without telling her who the source was etc. So I don't think he goes there lightly, at least not in this forum.

That said, on May 12, he posted here similar information that he posted elsewhere on May 1. On May 12 he said the announcement would come no later than 3rd week May. On May 13th he confirmed that THIS was the 3rd week in May (now). I haven't followed closely enough to know how the bets turned out or if they really total over $1500 as someone told me, but I will say this. There is no source who really knows what is happening that would say, even reinforce as late as yesterday, that this announcement will come this week. I think there are likely "sources" that think they know things, and try to guess at the rest, which is pretty normal I suppose. But there is no way that anyone in the know says that this happens this week. It won't.

If all the stars align, it is optimistic to believe there could be an announcement this month, but even that is unsure at this time. Important details are still being worked out. We can keep fingers crossed that it happens soon. I am absolutely not saying that this announcement won't happen, just that it won't be this week.
Quiet contender for POTY imo.
05-16-2012 , 10:23 PM
I was thinking more tl;dr
05-16-2012 , 10:32 PM
Ok that's it...the word "source" has officially been tainted forever.
Everyone seems to have one, almost every single person that works for PK or PS at executive level mustn't be able to keep their mouth shut.......or everyone itt seems to be friends with the same guy.


ZOMG after re reading I know who the source is now.
Spoiler:
Kevin Bacon obv
05-16-2012 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
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While you're answering questions: Where are you from? When I heard you on the 2+2 pokercast interview you instantly reminded me of "Nancy Donovan" (Jack's highschool gf from Boston I think) from 30 Rock.

Edit: Saving my 1000th post for the really important issues!

Last edited by FDSaussure; 05-16-2012 at 10:43 PM.
05-16-2012 , 10:40 PM
Some people have a source that they believe are in some kind of privileged position where they likely know more about any given situation then most do, such as an employee or someone in the media or government.

The problem is that a lot of the time the actual source does not have any access to the actual details of what is happening and they are exposed to the same sort of rumours as the rest of us.

So the person they have told something to takes everything they say as gospel, as they think to them self "hey I know/trust this person why would they lie to me, and they are in a much better position to know than most."

Then that is when you get a post on here with someone saying “Hey I have a completely reliable and trustworthy source who said………”
05-16-2012 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FDSaussure
While you're answering questions: Where are you from? When I heard you on the 2+2 pokercast interview you instantly reminded me of "Nancy Donovan" (Jack's highschool gf from Boston I think) from 30 Rock.

Edit: Saving my 100th post for the really important issues!
I think you might be 900 posts too late
05-16-2012 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FDSaussure
While you're answering questions: Where are you from? When I heard you on the 2+2 pokercast interview you instantly reminded me of "Nancy Donovan" (Jack's highschool gf from Boston I think) from 30 Rock.

Edit: Saving my 100th post for the really important issues!
Lol, I am east coast USA, but not Boston area. I actually think a Boston accent is quite distinct from anywhere else, but it's kind of funny the way we hear things differently.

Hope you enjoyed the podcast tho. Those guys are the best!
05-16-2012 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bolsta
Some people have a source that they believe are in some kind of privileged position where they likely know more about any given situation then most do, such as an employee or someone in the media or government.

The problem is that a lot of the time the actual source does not have any access to the actual details of what is happening and they are exposed to the same sort of rumours as the rest of us.

So the person they have told something to takes everything they say as gospel, as they think to them self "hey I know/trust this person why would they lie to me, and they are in a much better position to know than most."

Then that is when you get a post on here with someone saying “Hey I have a completely reliable and trustworthy source who said………”
I have multiple completely reliable and trustworthy sauces who worked in various positions at Pocket Kings. None of them have ever known anything substantial before us or if any of them did they kept it really secret.

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Originally Posted by MICK E JUICE
I think you might be 900 posts too late
That's what she said
05-16-2012 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
Lol, I am east coast USA, but not Boston area. I actually think a Boston accent is quite distinct from anywhere else, but it's kind of funny the way we hear things differently.

Hope you enjoyed the podcast tho. Those guys are the best!
DF so nothing is going to happen this week? All next week??? Sorry, I know who you are but I don't know your background. But from what I read you sound pretty reliable. So do you have sources on the inside of these negotiations? Or how do you get your info I guess?

Thanks DF!

      
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