About as much of an "it depends" question as it gets, because it depends a lot upon the general location and the chosen store. A Whole Foods bill will be a bit more than a No Frills bill, but the quality of the fresh produce and other items is overall quite better, so it is a tradeoff that some people are able and happy to make. Overall though there is a definite increase in pricing, and as rare as this sounds, I do kind of agree with Lozen on the potential impact. People notice their grocery bill more than many things, so it going up stings more than if say their auto insurance goes up an equivalent amount, as you see the higher prices over and over and over.

https://www.moneysense.ca/columns/mo...ill-in-canada/

gives an overall average of $1,350ish a month, but again I assume that number will change a lot depending on location. Toronto/Vancouver will be higher I assume. I would say this could be a legit issue to push the liberals on depending on the time of the election, but good chance they might go derp instead (not as bad as the US) and doing so would of course help the Liberals. Based on some of the nonsense Shifty and Lozen share here from what they consume it appears the derp messaging may be a thing, and enjoy more years of Trudeau if that continues.

I have a sneaky feeling Justin Trudeau will be walking away hand in hand with Melanie Joly in the near future next election

I spend to much on groceries but than about $175 is also just for my pooches

i mean we track stuff in mint. Worth noting we eat very little processed foods and very little meat (and that is usually lower carbon intensity stuff like pork not beef).

it’s always amusing when I see right wing fantasies like Trudeau and joly sleeping together and within a day you inevitably post it here. It’s crazy how good the fidelity is.

I'm a family of four, 2 kids 8 and 10. It's hard to track because I'm away half the time and splurge when I'm home but on average I'd guess its easily 500$/week probably a bit closer to 600$ during school. We also don't cook as many big meals like we used when the kids were younger and food was cheaper. Between hockey, horseback riding and gymnastics we end up eating out or making something quick and easy 2-3 days a week. Also eat mostly beef and red meat for the higher carbon footprint.

Yeah I had to Google it and the speculation has both of them cheating .

Unemployment up a third month in a row

I will say this - Canada tends to like changing things up after a while if a sane alternative is available. I tend to agree that Trudeau would likely be replaced (either his leaving or his losing) if the competition put up an actually sane opponent, but the dude you and Shifty are passively consuming is not sane, so this creates an American lite situation which is awkward for me as I would likely prefer an actually sane Conservative candidate to consider. Shifty aint gonna change, but you are someone that has gone pretty deep in the derpy alt right rabbit hole the past few years. I get that for the very weird polarized American politics, but you do that here and you will lose a very easily winnable race in the near future. The derpy Republicans in the USA suck, but normal conservatives here have a lot of value in my mind, so I admit I am pretty conflicted when I see the full derp mode engaged, because I simply cannot support it. You may want to stop and think about that. Or don't, but in the end it is actually people like you who could change the complexion of the next election in Canada. I prefer sanity in all parties, but I will play the hand that is dealt in the end.

The Conservatives ran "sane" liberal lite leaders the past 2 elections and lost elections they should have easily won. Liberals who say they would vote for a "sane" Conservative are full of ****. If your premise was true and Liberals were sick of Trudeau then NDP would be gaining in the polls, but they are also dropping while Pollivere continues to gain.

I've said many times I thought Peter McKay provided the best chance to beat Justin. Though I am shocked how well Pierre is doing in the polls.

Folks are tired of the narcissist Justin Trudeau and his little Bitxh Jagmit is going no were .

If the liberals had half a brain they would dump Trudeau and pick Anita Amid as their leader

If you go full derp you will lose, just as full derp has lost for nearly a decade now in 'Merica. It is a proven losing strategy, so in the end that will be your choice. People like Shifty care less about losing then having a candidate appeal to their base instincts, and that is fine, his vote counts as much as any persons so I get why candidates appeal to it, but it is literally a proven losing approach, so it comes down to people like you who are getting deeper but are not quite yet 100% converts. Good luck with that choice, because I totally get how the full derp approach is a great endorphin rush (even when you lose).

I actually agree with you 100 % I hope he just keeps pointing out all JT's promises not delivered, the economy, the deficit ...... He has no need to go super right. The super right are voting for him no matter what

This is pretty much where I'm at.

This isn't the US, where they have two parties and almost everyone is entrenched on their side; your assessment here is a little too simplistic IMO.

The Conservatives did run a better candidate in 2019, and I guess 2021 was better as well. But that was 2019 and 2021. Not everyone who has had enough of JT and the Liberals now was there in 2019 or 2021. The only reason the Liberals still got my vote in 2021 was because of my local candidate who I know and have worked with - he's an awesome guy for the community. I didn't care for the Liberal or Conservative PM candidate all that much, wasn't enamoured with their platforms, so I went with the best local candidate. Had next election been either Scheer or O'Toole, I likely would have voted for them, but unfortunately the Conservatives are off in the weeds with Poilievre. If I had to vote tomorrow, it would be NDP or Green for me.

If the Liberals stick with JT, at some point, people will even vote for a derp. Whether that will be next election, or a future one, I couldn't say, but at some point people will take whatever alternative they can get. However, a derp's unlikely to get more than a minority government.

Poilievre is in my view a better politician than O'Toole or Scheer. It's just unfortunate he is worse for the country. For instance, the previous two both to varying degrees thought that it was important that the conservatives had at least SOME sort of climate change plan. I remember O'Toole fecklessly begging the CPC convention to pass even an empty motion just agreeing to do something (he failed). Poilievre's #1 policy plank is to rip up the actual single best part of the entire Trudeau administration and replace it with absolutely nothing at all.

Yes, Poilievre is the better politician for the populist politics that are currently in vogue, unfortunately. If we were in the political climate of 10 years ago or more, I doubt he even has a shot at the leadership.

We agree on the politicians and yet Pierre's doing nothing will have the same effect as Justin's carbon tax


Rona Ambrose I thought was their best choice Peter McKay second .

If Trudeau had just delivered on the politician he promised he would be the first election. Sadly that's just not possible for a narcissist

Came across this Twitter thread today.

Tried to find out what that Twitter account is all about, and I gave up after I don't know how many pages of it retweeting every single mention of it - I don't know how it's possible for even a bot to have that many tweets in a few hours.

No wait, I tried again and finally made it!! I still can't get to 24 hours ago, because this account is just insane with the volume, but I don't know how much further I want to go anyway:





I guess that's one way to get to 9,600 tweets in 6 months!

For what it is worth, that one is one of the better quality accounts that is optimized for him.

Cool, so where in the thread did he go wrong?

You probably mean it, unless the spambot is somehow male. I fully understand, given the quality of Twitter feeds you have shared prior, that you do not care at all whether the operator of that account is even human, or is a Russian bot or whatever as long as it tells you things you want to believe in. Be sure to subscribe to all of it's content and enjoy!

All the best.

Were you hoping I'd take their long diatribe that is a mix of a few facts and a whole lot of oversimplified conspiratorial theories, and break it down point by point? Hard pass from me, thanks. But I'm sure they're an expert on the oligarchs running our country. After all, they've been here before. Twice!

I think it's a pretty logical explanation of what is currently happening in Canada that makes sense. Do you have another explanation to why our government is doing record immigration in the midst of a housing/health care crises?

Alberta putting a six month freeze on all solar and wind projects in the province. Good reminder how every time a conservative comes out against “regulations” or “gatekeepers” or “environmental review” they are talking out of one side of their mouth.

You get what you elect.

If you found out that account was a Russian troll bot, you would not care at all and your reaction would be something along the lines of - hey, everything it says is accurate and that is all that matters. Do I have that about right? Thanks in advance.

All the best.

It's hard to fathom given how few people are reaching retirement age, how difficult it is to find work, and with the huge number of children Canadian families are having these days. Also so unusual for Canada; immigration here wasn't really a thing before JT came into power.

Must be the oligarchs like Patterson here in BC and all his damn Alex Cross books.