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08-01-2023 , 06:15 PM

#8176

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And Trump became the most popular President in American history. Because politically ignorant people could afford to raise a family and pay bills.

lmao no

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08-01-2023 , 06:30 PM

#8177

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Originally Posted by uke_master

lmao no

This should be interesting, how do you think he became the most popular President in American history?

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08-01-2023 , 07:13 PM

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This should be interesting, how do you think he became the most popular President in American history?

Based on what ?
Fwiw Popularity doesn’t necessarily equal good.

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08-01-2023 , 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Based on what ?
Fwiw Popularity doesn’t necessarily equal good.

Agreed See Justin Trudeau

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08-01-2023 , 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shifty86

He's the leader of the country. It's his job to take care of its citizens. Whether it's his fault (I believe it is) or not it's what he signed up for. Opposition and people that do not like him have every right and should to use it against him.

You are right, people are busy and have their own issues to worry about. Majority of people just want to be left alone to have the ability to provide for their families and pay bills, when that becomes difficult politically ignorant people blame the leader.

It's politics, not like the Liberals are notorious for running clean campaigns every elections. The last 2 should have been easy wins for the Conservatives but they ran 2 duds as leaders. Pollivere is doing what has to be done.

And Trump became the most popular President in American history. Because politically ignorant people could afford to raise a family and pay bills.

Polievre is great and will do the job that needs to be done ?
For starters what policies differentiate Maxime Bernier and polievre ?
And what is polievre suggesting to do ?

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08-01-2023 , 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Polievre is great and will do the job that needs to be done ?
For starters what policies differentiate Maxime Bernier and polievre ?
And what is polievre suggesting to do ?

I have no clue as there is no election called . So his current job is to point out the failings of the current government. So if the conservatives pull off a win than the new liberals job will be to criticize Pierre

Though I do know he will eliminate the carbon tax

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08-01-2023 , 09:33 PM

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Just here because I googled "Donald Trump was the most popular president in history" and two things happened:

1. Google asked me "do you mean 'Donald Trump was the least popular president in history'"?
2. This was the only search result returned because it's clearly not true.

I see it's uke vs lolzen and shifty like usual. Keep doing the good work uke!

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08-01-2023 , 10:31 PM

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someone's gotta do the Lord's work

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08-02-2023 , 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by grando1.0

You are correct Shifty and I are not Trudeau fans I can provide 20 examples of why he is a horrible leader

I've asked both Uke and Montreal to list his accomplishments and they will not .

I'm not a fan of Biden or Trump but I can list there accomplishments and their failures

I can even list some of the accomplishments Trudeau has made
Legalized pot
Syrian refugees
Stayed out of last two labor strikes
Speaks well
Dresses well

Not bad for 8 years

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08-02-2023 , 10:20 AM

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Most votes ever for a sitting president and most votes total for 2 elections. If he was the least popular President Democrats would be doing everything they could to make sure he ran in the next election, but it appears the opposite is happening.

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08-02-2023 , 11:02 AM

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lol most votes.. you don't think % is maybe a better marker than total number? cmon

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08-02-2023 , 11:09 AM

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lol most votes.. you don't think % is maybe a better marker than total number? cmon

Hey if we went by most votes Trudeau would have lost the last two elections ( i think I know the last one but cant find it on the intraweb ). That is one of the downfalls of a parliamentary system

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08-02-2023 , 11:13 AM

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lmao someone tell Shifty Trump lost the popular vote - twice. Man trump really broke conservatives minds huh

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08-02-2023 , 11:17 AM

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lmao someone tell Shifty Trump lost the popular vote - twice. Man trump really broke conservatives minds huh

Yeah I was questioning that as well

They both delivered record total of votes for their parties

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08-02-2023 , 11:42 AM

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Here is an instance were Trudeau again promises one thing than says another

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...ey/ar-AA1eFSUP

If housing isnt a federal responsibility how can you promise 1.4 million new houses?

And to be fair Pierre is wrong as well the only thing Trudeau created was high interest rates thinking money would be free forever

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...lity-1.6924672

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08-02-2023 , 01:10 PM

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Last few years I have suspected this Sad news anytime a family goes through this always hard on the kids

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...c127c7842&ei=7

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08-02-2023 , 01:26 PM

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lol OF COURSE you had a soul read on this

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08-02-2023 , 01:38 PM

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lol OF COURSE you had a soul read on this

I would never post Hey I think his marriage looks to be in trouble just on what I see when their together in public. I can only imagine how difficult it must be being the wife of a PM and worse the kids of a PM

As much as I despise the man I feel for him and his family especially the kids as my parents split when I was younger as well Its tough

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08-02-2023 , 02:34 PM

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from the first link you post ....

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Ottawa's desire to be involved in the housing sector has fluctuated over the decades, Pomeroy said, adding that the Trudeau government has wanted to play a bigger role.

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"The pendulum has swung all the way back to a very proactive federal role, notwithstanding the fact that the Constitution doesn't actually give them the responsibility to be there," Pomeroy said.

so how did trudeau lied exactly ?

furthermore, kinda like the covid crisis, if trudeau would intervene too much in the housing crisis and make a mistake , u would see polievre coming out and accuse trudeau to interfere with provincial business like alberta loves to accuse the liberals.

damn if u do, damn if u dont.
such small politics talking points with no substance at all...

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08-02-2023 , 02:49 PM

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from the first link you post ....

so how did trudeau lied exactly ?

furthermore, kinda like the covid crisis, if trudeau would intervene too much in the housing crisis and make a mistake , u would see polievre coming out and accuse trudeau to interfere with provincial business like alberta loves to accuse the liberals.

damn if u do, damn if u dont.
such small politics talking points with no substance at all...

If you say your going to build 1.4 million houses than do not say building houses is not a federal responsibility.

Bottom line is either candidate can promise as much as they want on affordable housing . The only way they can do that is with rampant inflation that makes it impossible to buy a home this driving down demand and price like the 80's

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08-02-2023 , 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lozen

If you say your going to build 1.4 million houses than do not say building houses is not a federal responsibility.

Is there a reason you are deliberately not putting in the full quote that immediately disproves your interpretation?

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"I'll be blunt as well — housing isn't a primary federal responsibility. It's not something that we have direct carriage of," he said.

"But it is something that we can and must help with."

He is, correct. He didn't say the federal government has no influence, he says explicitly they can and must help. But he is also correct there are jurisdictional challenges here and lord knows the provinces - especially the conservative run ones - have been ****ing useless on this file. BC is starting to do something, but Trudeau is absolutely right these are multi-jurisdictional things.

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08-02-2023 , 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by uke_master

Is there a reason you are deliberately not putting in the full quote that immediately disproves your interpretation?

He is, correct. He didn't say the federal government has no influence, he says explicitly they can and must help. But he is also correct there are jurisdictional challenges here and lord knows the provinces - especially the conservative run ones - have been ****ing useless on this file. BC is starting to do something, but Trudeau is absolutely right these are multi-jurisdictional things.

Well you explain to me that he did not say that

The man has had 8 years and done nothing on affordable housing?? Yeah Yeah Its hard and Im concerned

BC is starting to do something Please explain This may be the bureaucratic province there is. All you need to do is look at the Forest Fire problem .

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08-02-2023 , 03:24 PM

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Well you explain to me that he did not say that

The man has had 8 years and done nothing on affordable housing?? Yeah Yeah Its hard and Im concerned

BC is starting to do something Please explain This may be the bureaucratic province there is. All you need to do is look at the Forest Fire problem .

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What does the federal budget do for affordable housing in Ontario?

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The budget boosts federal funding for new affordable housing to about $1.1 billion a year nationwide. If we bracket the large and much-needed amounts for First Nations and Northern Canada, the amount that will flow to provinces and municipalities is an average of $352 million annually in federal dollars. With their matching funds, the provinces could see just over $600 million a year. The budget describes this as a doubling of the Investment in Affordable Housing (IAH) program through which these dollars will be delivered.

is doubling a budget in 2016 not making a sizeable effort for affordable housing ?

i have no idea why u let your hatred for a politician lose all your intellectual faculties to get blinded by stupid arguments like the video u posted.

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08-02-2023 , 03:26 PM

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and no surprise, the video was posted by the idiot polievre, no surprise there the arguments were lies and garbage...

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08-02-2023 , 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

was there an housing problems prior to 2021 i dont know about o0 ?

and again, why blame trudeau and not provincial PM first ?

more importantly about the garbage video u post .
are u saying trudeau didnt do efforts for federal funds at that time to be distributed ?

https://www.wellesleyinstitute.com/e...ng-in-ontario/

is doubling a budget in 2016 not making a sizeable effort for affordable housing ?

i have no idea why u let your hatred for a politician lose all your intellectual faculties to get blinded by stupid arguments like the video u posted.

We agree Affordable housing is a provincial matter yet over the years he keeps promising affordable housing and now its not a federal matter.

Let me explain the video

In2015 Trudeau promises investing in affordable housing
In 2021 Trudeau promises it again
in 2023 Housing isnt a federal priority

Housing even with current rates isn't very affordable and nothing Pierre or Justin can do much about it

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