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03-25-2022 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Yeah heard about that .
No surprise there

That was pretty much a given. It happened with BLM and the Seattle occupation as well . Corruption crosses all lines
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03-25-2022 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
In "Pierre Poilievre is a slimy liar part n+1" we have today's tweet: https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/...NTOhZfTid97r3Q

Trudeau must be horrible! He is banning potatoes from PEI being exported?! That socialist!

Note carefully the tweet provides no context as to why this might occur. Well, turns out that a potatoe wart of all things was discovered. As USDA would have otherwise officially banned them, a cumbersome process to unwind, Trudeau correctly suspended the exports to prevent this. The Liberals have now reached an agreement with the USDA to be able to shortly resume exports now that tests are coming back negative. None of this context is provided.

This situation sucked. It isn't remotely clear the Liberals did anything wrong at all as neither the wart nor the USDA wanting to ban it because of the wart was their fault, and it looks like they took all the appropriate steps. Perhaps one could levy some procedural criticisms, but no Pierre just wants to get those hard hitting talking points in.

Look, this specific issue doesn't really matter in the big picture. But this style of lying from Pierre is rampant in every ****ing thing this guys says. It is utterly disgusting.

Lozen, please don't respond with a WHATABOUTISM.
Lets get the facts straight. Only two areas were hit by this potato wart thing . They could have targeted the areas to shutdown. Did President Biden personally call you and tell you he was going to shut it down?

You should be overjoyed that Pierre will win the leadership as we both know he can not win an election .
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03-25-2022 , 09:05 AM
Changing the topic Trudeau commits to increasing defense spending. When asked by how much , when ..... No answer

So what that means its not gonna be done but it sounds good
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03-25-2022 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Wait... what gif.



Tell me uke's understanding would not create the same situation here as he would applaud slowing Cdn O&G and making it more expensive and polluting in the belief it will drive down US and world wide demand, but instead will just result in more shale and again, Russian product filling the gap, in a more expensive and more polluting way.

Tell me the left arguments that uke has bought wholesale cannot be this shortsighted as uke is laughing at the rest of us for not getting what he thinks are 'basic economic principles'.

Just give him a few minutes here as he types out a reply speaking to economic principles he thinks he has a tight understanding of while he ignores the broader more macro factors at play.
It's pure dogma. It's why the extreme environmentalist like Uke are never specific about any of their goals. Its always we need to make carbon more expensive, we need to invest in alternative energy. But how much more expensive? What alternate energy? It's just virtue signaling hand waving from consuming so much anti-fossil fuel propaganda. They rarely ever specifically mention nuclear as a solution because not everyone on the hard left considers nuclear "green".

https://www.reutersevents.com/nuclea...bond-framework
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03-25-2022 , 12:42 PM
I know Uke has repeated all the liberal talking points about the carbon tax repeatably itt. Even the bank governor admits it adds to inflation.

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03-25-2022 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Lets get the facts straight. Only two areas were hit by this potato wart thing . They could have targeted the areas to shutdown. Did President Biden personally call you and tell you he was going to shut it down? .
From what it sounds like from the USDA negotiations this would not have been acceptable and would have led to the much more severe ban. Again, not a single thing in the lying Pierre tweets giving any context for the reason for the problem or what was done.
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03-25-2022 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
It's pure dogma. It's why the extreme environmentalist like Uke are never specific about any of their goals. Its always we need to make carbon more expensive, we need to invest in alternative energy. But how much more expensive? What alternate energy? It's just virtue signaling hand waving from consuming so much anti-fossil fuel propaganda. They rarely ever specifically mention nuclear as a solution because not everyone on the hard left considers nuclear "green".
I'm not quite sure why you are referencing me. I've supported the Liberal plan which is increasing the price on carbon from 50 to 170 by 2030, this is detailed very precisely. I also support nuclear power. So....nice talking point I guess?
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03-25-2022 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
I know Uke has repeated all the liberal talking points about the carbon tax repeatably itt. Even the bank governor admits it adds to inflation.
This is another good example of Pierre trying to run his half-truths through into a hyperpartisan attack. The two quotes are referencing somewhat different things. As Giroux notes in his report, when you consider just the carbon taxes paid and the rebates paid, it remains true that most people are better off from that exchange. This is a function of the two major competing factors that only 90% is rebated, but that usage is asymmetric with the rich using substantially more than the poor, for instance. Giroux also does look at the larger economic picture I believe he noted that by 2030 when the price has risen from the small amount today to the full amount, that we will see something like 1.3% reduction in economic activity, while also noting the report explicitly does not consider potential benefits from things like development and application of green technologies, does not consider things like costs coming from climate change and so forth.

The PBO report is really instructive. We should never expect that as we really ramp up prices on carbon that this has exactly zero impact on the economy. It is good to know that the effect is fairly modest even out into 2030, but not zero. If pierre wants to try and spin that all as a partisan attack ad, well hopefully canadians largely ignore that guy.
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03-25-2022 , 04:06 PM
Edmonton Police release videos of random shootings

Some of these are off the wall


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...708fc843b1b3fc
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03-25-2022 , 11:46 PM
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/protester-...nvoy-1.5833766

Moron loses his life savings donating to truckers. Was told to save the receipts, now living in his car
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03-26-2022 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/protester-...nvoy-1.5833766

Moron loses his life savings donating to truckers. Was told to save the receipts, now living in his car
it’s really just sad
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03-26-2022 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
it’s really just sad
Society try to help those people and for gratitude look what he was willing to do …
To what extent enough is enough ?

They want freedom and letting them do what they want ?
Fine , look where he end up !
Seems it’s the only way they learn , through pain , like kids instead of take a step back , being less emotional , and start thinking …

I think it’s time a certain 10-20% of the population need to face “reality for real” instead of focusing of conspiracy idiocies .

Ps: I do not wish him bad karma of course , but hopefully some light bulb got switch on …

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 03-26-2022 at 06:14 AM.
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03-26-2022 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
it’s really just sad
Yes but life savings was $11,000 ?? So many folks get scammed I just watched Bad Vegan on Netflix and watched a highly intelligent woman and Investors get scammed for 6 million on a restaurant .

Dont get me going on folks buying Apple Cards to pay off tax debt
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03-27-2022 , 05:58 PM
Canada off to the World Cup for the first time in 35 years

We all can agree on that being an awesome accomplishment . Now as long as Putin doesn't destroy the planet before than
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03-27-2022 , 06:02 PM
Give him a hair transplant and enlarged penis and we should be ok
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03-28-2022 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I'm not quite sure why you are referencing me. I've supported the Liberal plan which is increasing the price on carbon from 50 to 170 by 2030
Weird, because I recall you mentioning a few times itt that you didn't think it was enough and wanted the increase to be much higher, how high?


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Originally Posted by uke_master
I also support nuclear power. So....nice talking point I guess?
Do you? You never bring it up as a solution, you oppose and don't like Michael Shellenberger who is a very outspoken very pro nuclear leftist, you praise Germany for their energy policies while they close nuclear plants. Your favorite environmental extremist Guilbeault seems not not be a fan of nuclear: https://torontosun.com/opinion/edito...n-green-energy
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03-28-2022 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
it’s really just sad
Lol, idiots lose money every day on stupid ****. There's also a decent chance this is fake news.
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03-28-2022 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master

The PBO report is really instructive. We should never expect that as we really ramp up prices on carbon that this has exactly zero impact on the economy. It is good to know that the effect is fairly modest even out into 2030, but not zero. If pierre wants to try and spin that all as a partisan attack ad, well hopefully canadians largely ignore that guy.

Funny how the messaging is starting to change. You spent the last ~3 years arguing a carbon tax won't increase the cost and will only affect wealthy people who can afford it. To now that of course it's going to have a modest affect, it'd just be silly to assume otherwise.
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03-28-2022 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Weird, because I recall you mentioning a few times itt that you didn't think it was enough and wanted the increase to be much higher, how high?
Cute. I want it to be higher because of reports that it is insufficient for us to meet our carbon reduction goals. What is the price dollar figure it should be? Obviously I personally can't answer that, this would have to be the result of extensive economic analysis.




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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Do you? You never bring it up as a solution, you oppose and don't like Michael Shellenberger who is a very outspoken very pro nuclear leftist, you praise Germany for their energy policies while they close nuclear plants. Your favorite environmental extremist Guilbeault seems not not be a fan of nuclear: https://torontosun.com/opinion/edito...n-green-energy
I don't think I've ever been unclear that I am pro-nuclear. But if so let me be clear: I am pro-nuclear. I think it should be a big part of our energy balance. I think Germany closing nuclear plants is bad (well I don't know the details of the specific plants, but big picture at least) and think Guilbeault is wrong.
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03-28-2022 , 07:06 PM
So correct me if I have my facts wrong

Justin Trudeau promises to scrap the program to buy F35's when elected as its to expensive, unproven in 2015 and does

Justin Trudeau today announces to purchase F35 Fighter Jets


Some may say I do not like Justin Trudeau All the Best
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03-28-2022 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Cute. I want it to be higher because of reports that it is insufficient for us to meet our carbon reduction goals. What is the price dollar figure it should be? Obviously I personally can't answer that, this would have to be the result of extensive economic analysis.
Do you think the 300k increase in oil and natural gas by Canada to supply Europe will have any effect on your carbon reduction goals? Would a higher carbon tax change that?What about the fact there is no pipelines so it will have to be done via rail through the US, do you regret at all being against XL with this new development?




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Originally Posted by uke_master
I don't think I've ever been unclear that I am pro-nuclear. But if so let me be clear: I am pro-nuclear. I think it should be a big part of our energy balance. I think Germany closing nuclear plants is bad (well I don't know the details of the specific plants, but big picture at least) and think Guilbeault is wrong.
Not unclear but certainly not a huge advocate for it as a solution, atleast not itt. Hardcore environmentalist like Guilbeault, green peace and Suziki are against nuclear. It's why you don't really mention it, as it's not used in the talking points of your anti-human dogma that you follow. An example of this would be the left disowning Michael Shellenberger over his pro nuclear, anti-hysteria stance.
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03-28-2022 , 10:28 PM
Oh Shifty and his endless questions. Buddy, you are totally going to get that "gotcha" you are hoping for soon! But sure. I'll play. The crisis in Ukraine is definitely causing some shifts, both short and long term, and what for instance the long term effect on global oil consumption is is still a bit unclear, at least to me. So immediately there is a lot of pressure on non-russian oil producing regions to react to the supply crisis in europe, and I respect this kind of short-medium term geopolitical reality, even if it sort of cuts against my longer term goals to reduce production. But at the same time, it might well be that Europe's medium-long term strategy for weaning itself off of Russian oil is going to involve a lot more alternative sources, including possibly nuclear. So I'm hopeful that after we get over this blip we can see a Canada and a Europe that just use less oil per capita.

As for the carbon tax, this primarily affects domestic consumption, and with every rise we can expect it to put downward pressure on consumption. Many provinces are giving different versions of temporary relief to the high price shock, which isn't actually how I would go about it, but again is sort of a short term consideration to deal with a short term price shock and as long as broadly speaking get to a slow and steady increasing price through the carbon tax in the medium term then I'm happy.

And yes, I'm pro-nuclear, as I've said many times now. I'm not quite sure why you are going "but but but these other people are against it" and also "but but but this other guy is for it". So what? None of them are me. There isn't uniformity on this issue. I understand and empathize with some of the arguments against nuclear energy, but ultimately it is so overwhelmingly positive in terms of replacing carbon usage I'm in support.
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03-28-2022 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So correct me if I have my facts wrong

Justin Trudeau promises to scrap the program to buy F35's when elected as its to expensive, unproven in 2015 and does

Justin Trudeau today announces to purchase F35 Fighter Jets


Some may say I do not like Justin Trudeau All the Best
As terrible as Harper's process was (i vaguely recalling a scathing report from I think the auditor general), and as much as I think it was correct to take a pause and refocus on process, it is indeed a bit silly that the final outcome is the same. At least we can be quite a bit more confident than before that this really is the best call.
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03-28-2022 , 10:54 PM
Anyone heard about those 5 billions$ mini nuclear reactor ?
Seem interesting .
Couple provinces are looking into it .
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03-29-2022 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
As terrible as Harper's process was (i vaguely recalling a scathing report from I think the auditor general), and as much as I think it was correct to take a pause and refocus on process, it is indeed a bit silly that the final outcome is the same. At least we can be quite a bit more confident than before that this really is the best call.
No Trudeau actually got this one right when elected. the F35 still remains over priced and plagued with problems.

Im sure someone's pockets got greased on this decision and no I have no proof
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