Ok this detail sort of got lost in the shuffle of the election call, but can we please give a bit of credit to our boy JT on vaccine mandates? he got the ball rolling before anyone else with first the mandate for federal workers and then all the money destined for provinces that impliment some sort of vaccine passport system. Now with Alberta and just today Saskatchewan realizing this is the path forward, let's just pause to remember the federal leadership here. Just one more detail among many where the federal government has executed well during the pandemic.

He gets credit for rolling out vaccines but other than that no he still allows unvaccinated folks into Canada from other countries.
And the big one he called an election in the middle of a pandemic that no one wanted and were he was pretty much getting everything he wanted with the NDP's

Same guy calling out Alberta and what a horrible job Kenney is doing than the next day saying its not my place to tell what provinces should do

I always find this weird idea that you want Justin Trudeau to act more like a dictatorship and override conservative provinces a weird feature of your interpretation of the pandemic. I think it is great that he made a vaccine mandate in his areas of jurisdiction, namely federal workers and interprovincial travel in Canada. And it is great that he freed up a lot of money to the provinces to make vaccine passport systems, things that provinces like ALberta can belatedly access. That is exactly the type of jurisdictionally respectful Canadian leadership I want in a federation.

Which specific policy are you talking about with unvaccinated "folks" into Canada? Do you mean how Canadian citizens, with strict testing requirements, are allowed back unvaccinated? You think....Canadian citizens....should be blocked from coming......to Canada??????

Jesus this situation is scary in Alberta. They approach BC to ask for help and BC basically said no, which sucks a lot, but also sort of fair enough as we are very plausibly only a couple steps behind. Sounds like ICU patients will instead be shipped to Ontario in the state of emergency.

I hope this isn't true. But I think it probably is. I think all this carbon tax lite stuff is just for show. Just to say he has a plan. Even recently he started waffling and saying well ok maybe we will just show it as a menu item to provinces and they can implement our un-implementable plan. Ultimately it is going to come down to a Jason Kenney or a Doug Ford saying nope we don't want a climate plan and....that will be what will happen. Maybe some pathetic, toothless plan-in-name-only will still be required against those protesting conservative provinces, but that's about it. I'm predicting O'Toole is Climate Phonie. And lozen will own every single morsel of that meal.


Note: Gerald Butts is a liberal partisan, infamously dumped after SNC Lavalin, so not pretending this is an impartial take at all.

Edit: Can someone explain to me why i suck at embedding tweets? I am putting the string 1438458699245305860 in between[TWEET*] and [/TWEET*] without the astericks and nothing works?

I don’t think any provinces have enough ressources to pass to each other during this pandemic .

In Quebec even before the pandemic they lacked workers in health care system for over a decade !
Poor wages conditions do that right ?
I suspect it’s the same throughout pretty much every provinces .

People’s complain about taxes but it’s these people that get it too .
They earn it and more imho .

You might just need to be more patient. I find they usually doesn't display for me, but then I refresh the page and they're there - that's what happened just now when I edited your post. The feature is a bit...glitchy.

Sadly BC is trending in the wrong way as well and can not spare the resources. Saskatchewan is now in same boat as Alberta. No province is at a vaccination rate that will exempt them

Alberta in a day or two will be at a triage point

On the election front I think O'Toole had a bad day yesterday. HE should have acknowledged Jason Kenney's mistakes at least. He could have pointed out Jason Kenney apologized for his error and will be held accountable unlike our prime minister who can never apologize and than list them all.

Justin Trudeau saying O'Toole will make things worse than say its not my job. Well how would it be O'Tooles job. This was politics at its finest and yesterday Justin somewhat won

Well O’Toole is anti-vaccine mandates. So he wouldn’t have made the rules for federal workers and travel, and wouldn’t have coughed up the money to support the development of vaccine passports by the provinces. That position might have seemed reasonable at the start of the election, but now that even the conservative provinces are implementing vaccine passports for lots of things, it just makes him seem like a feckless leader. He tries his best to just not talk about this (ie much of anything, see cancelling his ctv interview) but you can’t ignore every issue every time

If only we had a federal passport that anyone could access? Developed months ago and How about your not vaccinated your not coming into the country?

I never knew he cancelled his CTV interview. Though Justin does the exact same thing when it comes to Quebec and the Pandemic election. I think it hurts both of them as CDN's can see your not answering the question.

Thankfully, BC seems to have plateaued over the last couple of weeks, so hopefully we'll be in a position to help soon. Alberta is saying they're about 10 days from their dire straits, I believe.

A buddy of mine got his third shot yesterday as he had the combo mix and had to wait about 30 minutes. The nurse at Shoppers said they have been busy and its mainly the young folks as they realize they will not be getting into bars or restaurants.
Hopefully we see a uptick in vaccinations though sadly it will take 6 weeks before those folks are fully vaccinated and 14 days has passed

Does it seem a little silly to be advocating for STRONGER vaccine mandates when you voted for the party that wants WEAKER ones? Its just like climate change when you criticize trudeau for not being even stronger than he is, while voting for the person far weaker.

Again this is 100% jurisdictional stuff, as much as I might love that justin trudeau was a dictator we live in a federation. ALL health data is stored provincially in separate provincial systems. The feds literally do not have the data to look up your individual provincial health numbers to make a passport. It HAS to be negotiated with each province, exactly the same way that the covid alert app had to be negotiated with each province (and some said no). So what they did instead was provide the federal leadership in the federal jurisdictional area of federal empoyees and interprovincial travel, provide the money to the provinces to develop for each province with the provincial rules and data, and that leadership is now paying off with the provinces doing exactly that. This is just like almost every issue like say the $10 a day daycare this is something that the federal government provides the money and the leadership but signs agreements with the individual provinces to make it happen.

As for borders, is your position really that Canada should block Canadian citiziens from being able to return to Canada?


Every other major leader did the CTV face-to-face. This isn't dodging a question in an interview, this is a deliberate approach to be as minimally exposed to unscripted situations as possible, just like Harper.

No Canada should deny entry of non CDN's that are not vaccinated which they do not.

Lets be honest dodging an interview is bad. Though calling an election with the minimum amount of campaign days is just as bad or even during the fourth wave while you leave Afghan allies to die

I am just glad Justin answers all those questions honestly and doesn't dodge around the questions


I am surprised O'Toole has not brought up the fact the USA, England and Australia did an alliance to combat China and left Canada out
I get why they left Canada out we all know Justin is very loyal to the Chinese government.

Non vaccinated people should be stripped of their citizenship

You really throw just so much vapid contextless **** on the pile every time it becomes a bit exhausting. Do I push back at your disgusting politicization of Afghanistan or jump to the next thing on the random list.

Obviously - obviously - this plan to equip Australia with nuclear submarine to patrol the indo pacific was not excluding canada because of justin being "very loyal" to the chinese (a nonsensical lie).

Ok, which specific group of non-Caanadian citizens are you proposing we ban? Are you trying to block permanent residency holder? People crossing for funerals? Students returning to school?

I'm worried about a lot of things in this pandemic, and think for instance that Alberta was being very irresponsible with its lax reopening that has predictably led to the chaos we see now. But I'm also for pragmatic steps and having extensive testing requirements for various essential categories of people comig into Canada seems reasonable. The border is still closed to most people for mos things. Should it be utterly ironclad? I don't think so.

And more importantly, if YOU think so then you should never be voting for the party weakest on covid! O'Toole opposed the federal mandate but even Jason Kenney is on board with that now!

You do realize you can cross the border for work, funerals and a host of other reasons if your unvaccinated.

Change that to Vaccinated or your not coming in.

Discussing which federal leader is better at handling Covid and the current one says not my responsibility its the provinces and than says the other guy would be worse. Holding a event with no social distancing and not checking Covid vaccinations shows real leadership

Justin let another sexual assaulter run

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/video...?ocid=msedgntp

You do realize you can cross the border for work, funerals and a host of other reasons if your unvaccinated.

Change that to Vaccinated or your not coming in.

Discussing which federal leader is better at handling Covid and the current one says not my responsibility its the provinces and than says the other guy would be worse. Holding a event with no social distancing and not checking Covid vaccinations shows real leadership


Hey I admit Trudeau is winning on the campaign on Covid. O'Toole was definetly the loser yesterday

Do you not see the fundamental contradiction that keeps happening in a lot of your positions? You assert these super strong positions but then vote exactly the opposite:
*You think the the federal government should override provincial jurisdiction and somehow make a vaccine passport with provincial data they don't have as opposed to just providing leadership with federal workers and incentivizing the provinces with money. Fine. That is a stronger position than most left-ish pro-vacine people hold given the pragmatic limitations, but you voted for the weakest party who opposed even the limited steps trudeau did!
*You want to block the border (which is largely closed and the "essential" exemptions for things like work or funerals requiring extensive testing) which goes further than left learning pro-restriction types like me want, again because it doesn't make pragmatic sense, but you voted for the people who criticized trudeau for not doing more to get the border open up faster!
*You get mad at a myriad things trudeau isn't doing on climate change, then vote for the guy who is going to do even less than trudeau.

It is completely irrational. At its core I think the reason this contradiction keeps happening is not that you are consistently super pro restriction on covid, say, but that it is just something, anything, to attack Trudeau on and so you attack him on places where he is stronger than the person you voted for and just totally have a blind spot about what you are doing.

Interview is out, wish all the candidates could do this.

Not sure every candidate wants to rush to do an interview with the alt-right poster child for incels. Still, nice that it was inspirational to you. Hopefully he has no lingering effects from that induced coma thing in Russia last year to battle a drug addiction.

You do realize you support a candidate that pretty much lies about anything and will promise everything and does nothing

O'Tooles climate change plan is as effective as Justin's. Justin raised emissions in 6 years

I am voting Conservative as OToole had integrity and Justin has none platforms aside.
I get why someone would vote Green, NDP or Conservative even PPC. I can not fathom how anyone could vote for Justin at the helm of the Liberal government.

So what you are saying is you do not care for Trudeau too much.