Took that 3 hrs after it started

Talk about being close, stay safe out there.

oh wow, that's insane

I put this post in the "In other News Thread" but as this is truly a reason to say LOL Canada, I will post it here as well.

Wilson-Raybould calls it quits. Full letter is worth reading:

https://twitter.com/Puglaas/status/1...933898/photo/1

She is right on pretty much everything . I am sure like many politicians that get elected and dream of changing the world they find out very quickly tow the line and say what your told to say. She is a prime example of trying to do the right thing and it cost her a cabinet post and kicked out of the party.
I honestly think the environment minister Catherine Mckenna realized she may be able to do more for climate change outside of government.

Reality is could she get re-elected as well as an independent.

Looks like were going to the polls soon as Justin is out dropping money in Key Areas.

The Libs would be smart to call an election, since the Conservative party is in shambles and the NDP is largely an afterthought.

This weak and ineffectual govt. will never have a better chance to extend it's mandate than it has right now.

The only thing it has done right is battle Covid. They need to drop the writ before the next mutation hits and we all get locked down again if they want to keep it going.

Lol Jody tried to play politics (and the female card), selling out her good friend in the process, to try and make a name for herself and didn't get there.

All she did was alienate herself from nearly everyone in the know because of how disingenuous and self-serving she actually was. She can go **** herself.

No she had an ethics dilemma and her boss the Prime Minister tried to interfere she called him out on it and he kept on denying it saying " She remembers things differently" the exact same phrase he used on the reporter that accused him of sexual assault. Once the recordings were released he had to own up to it with the excuse of protecting Quebec jobs
You could argue her recording a private phone call was unethical but if she hadn't ......

Again, ignoring the opposition's 'necessary' omg how dare they won't somebody please think of the childrening - everyone with a clue knew what she was doing and how absurd it was. Total amateur hour.

Assuming you have a clue, please enlighten - either through your own words or with some links: I've always assumed what I know about the case to be the truth, wouldn't characterize her as "absurd" but welcome the opportunity to learn more.

More than 160 unmarked graves found near vancouver island

https://www.680news.com/2021/07/12/b...-kuper-island/

There is nothing unethical in recording a person you feel will lie and misrepresent and slander you, if they cannot be held to account over their words.

If you are talking to Donald Trump you better record everything. It is unethical to say to someone they should not and have them then own the consequences of being lied about, slandered and destroyed in public.

It is akin to pulling out your phone when you feel someone (a cop or other) might assault you. Whether they approve or not does not impact the ethics. The ethics are tied to the 'just' outcome. The 'truth' of the matter. And if the audio or video recording is the only way to capture that as you are dealing with a liar on the other side then availing yourself of it is not unethical.

I had no issue with it at all. I am just saying some did . Stop doing what I do and comparing Trudeau to Trump


I just can not see JT getting a majority. If he does he may be the greatest snake oil salesman ever

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other...?ocid=msedgntp

This one will likely enrage lozen, who typically gets mad that Trudeau hasn't overridden the idiocy of his home province, but Trudeau has announced that vaccine passports domestically will be left up to individual provincial choice. As in, they will make a federal one for us internationally, but if a specific province (Quebec, ON) wants to make a domestic one, fine, they can and if a specific province (AB) doesn't want to, they can do that too.

Domestic vaccine passports sound kind of silly, IMO.

I could go both ways. A part of me thinks we SHOULD be doing what some other countries are doing and say that select parts of society like concerts or sporting events or whatever with large crowds require proof of vaccine. This both helps curb transmission but also incentivized increased vaccination. Canada has tended far more on the pro individual rights side throughout much of the pandemic, and I see the arguments but I’m not always completely convinced

Milquetoast: he's announced that they'll do nothing? Apart from annoying Lozen, that achieves nothing. Macron made vaccines mandatory for all health care workers, workers at old folk's homes, visiting a cafe and going to an amusement park - guess what? He got alot of push-back, and people are very angry with him.

Now, here in Canada, the Federal government has nowhere near the same amount of power, but I'd like to see Trudeau mandating vaccination for all branches of the military, for everyone in the foreign branch and for all federal employees who will be going back to work when the restrictions are lowered. Otherwise, it's just him saying to provinces "You do you." while he does nothing.

Canada is an interesting case study: I think at every step in the decision making process, the government has bent over backwards to not trample on the rights of the individual. At the same time, we as a population have individually decided that getting a vaccination is the way out of lockdown: we're willing to take a chance on mixing and matching vaccinations if it means we can watch a hockey game in person.

At this point we're in an interesting position: Let's jump to the end of summer: we've got a high percentage of people vaccinated with two shots, but the ease of getting a shot means that those who are unvaccinated are unlikely to do so without external influence. In which case it falls to friends and family, a more nuanced solution, or it falls to the bureaucracy to make being unvaccinated an undue hardship (the hammer approach).

The issue with the hammer approach is that it will alienate a portion of the population who don't want to take a vaccine and a portion of the population who believe it's government overreach: I predict that this government does not have the appetite for taking such drastic measures... At least until they get a majority government.

No I am fine with it as everyone that wants a vaccine can get one. Every province can decide what route they want to go as well.
Yesterday I went to a business that had a mask policy so I put one on otherwise I do not.

Though I could see this working for air travel I just do not see police pulling you over to check your vaccine status.

Heck as a country were doing great on second dose vaccines

This shows, temporarily at least, the kind of boost to vaccinations France got by insisting on vaccines or a recent negative test for a range of societal functions: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...s-to-cafe-life

In general Canada is doing great, arguably best in the world, but the UK and Netherlands who are both only a little behind us are having huge spikes in covid cases nevertheless so we aren’t yet safe.

I feel like we are still waiting for the other shoe to drop with this whole Covid thing. Granted we have been lucky, and despite their many faults guys like Trudeau and Ford have somehow been getting the job done. But I do not think it is over.

I'm glad to admit that I was overly pessimistic when it came to the vaccine rollout. I always thought we'd spend far too much and not get vaccinated by September, but it seems that the plan of purchasing a variety of shots was the correct play - apart from the fact that some countries aren't going to be accepting "AZ-Pfizer" or "AZ-Moderna" cocktails as fully vaccinated.

Oh and the fact that we overspent on vaccines, but luckily, the overspending on every other line item hides this (at least until interest rates go up and we implode).

I’d way rather have overspent (is this even true? In what metric?) and gotten one of the worlds best vaccination programs than have underspent and be in the middle of a fourth wave