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05-02-2021 , 02:55 PM
You don’t get to just utter anti-vaxxer nonsense (aka the first tweet), then have that magically be excused by saying oh of course you support them (aka the second tweet). It’s the exact same **** as doing racist dog whistles then profusing how much you aren’t racist right after.

Remember how O’Toole begged his convention to accept the basic truth of global warming and they, embarrassingly, denied him? You don’t get to rewrite that as election strategy either. The Conservative party actually is just that bad. I get you want to make excuse for them denying the existence of global warming, but that stain will live on their conscience for years to come.

Any conservative should be utterly embarrassed that this man was almost elected by them.
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05-02-2021 , 03:00 PM
Holy ****, Alberta has more cases per thousand right now than any province. Or any US state. Even the most backward vaccine delaying right wing states in the us. Alberta is worse than all of them. SHUT IT DOWN.
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05-02-2021 , 04:07 PM
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Crazy how different Canada might be right now had Bernier won the Conservative leadership instead of the dud Scheer.
Yup. I had plenty of reasons already with where he took the PPC, but thanks for another reason to be extremely grateful that didn't happen.

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Holy ****, Alberta has more cases per thousand right now than any province. Or any US state. Even the most backward vaccine delaying right wing states in the us. Alberta is worse than all of them. SHUT IT DOWN.
Yeah, I've been wondering for the last few days WTF is happening in Alberta. Numbers from this third wave, or whatever it is, flattened in all the big provinces in the last few weeks. Then they started going down in Ontario, down even more in QC and BC, but for some reason have started shooting up again in AB. I thought most provinces had put in some more strict measures a few weeks ago, and that others' measures were stricter than BC's as usual. I wonder if AB did not do much, or if it just didn't have the desired effect.
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05-02-2021 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Holy ****, Alberta has more cases per thousand right now than any province. Or any US state. Even the most backward vaccine delaying right wing states in the us. Alberta is worse than all of them. SHUT IT DOWN.
Alberta is definitely the most challenged right now in terms of bending that curve. I think that is a direct result of it being the big Province that takes the longest to enter Spring, and warmer weather and the distancing that allows is still a huge factor. Even though the new variants are now more virulent even in warmer weather, they don't have a way around the natural distancing that occurs.

BC had a steep rise but just as per last spring with the warmer weather, so too this spring we see the curve dropping precipitously.




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05-02-2021 , 04:44 PM
Same for Ontario and Quebec (same as BC, that is), although Quebec's spike was relatively a bit lower this time.
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05-02-2021 , 04:49 PM
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"I am in no way opposed to vaccination" is now an anti-vaxxer. Not wanting to rewrite a parties entire policy to add buzzwords when an election can happen anytime is now saying "global warming is not a real thing".
If you asked me to bet on the over/under of him also denying but not denying global warming, at some point, I would take the Over bet.


The main point he misses that society wants to reduce of variant creation. They don't want a percentage of the populace being spread vectors each year allowing the virus to seek mutations that can beat the vaccines.

Because when that happens and more shutdowns are then enacted those same people will be the ones crying the loudest asking why we need to shut down again.
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05-02-2021 , 05:03 PM
Those Bernier tweets are ridiculous. "I just want people to freely decide to take it or not." - you mean, like they already can, and do? It's one thing for Joe Citizen to take to Twitter and rant about "COVID fanatics", but for an MP and party leader to do it is irresponsible, and is nothing but an obvious attempt to score cheap political points with actual anti-vaxxers.
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05-02-2021 , 05:23 PM
But he also said he is not against vaccinations - so , you know, that makes it all better, just like when an anti-vaxxer says he got a required vaccine a decade ago for yellow fever or something. That allows them to spew anti-vaxxer opinions without being one, because - magic.
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05-02-2021 , 05:58 PM
I suggest Canada to pay 1 week vacation into India to those who think the covid do not create problems in hospital and that vaccine is not a necessity....

Nonsense would finally stop prevailing.
Some would realize that even if their minds do not believe in science , their bodies will ....
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05-02-2021 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Holy ****, Alberta has more cases per thousand right now than any province. Or any US state. Even the most backward vaccine delaying right wing states in the us. Alberta is worse than all of them. SHUT IT DOWN.

Yup Alberta sucks right now and just like at the Federal level has no leadership on Covid. Sadly you just cant throw money at it and reduce cases

Imagine if our federal government put out directives that dictated when you need to shut down sectors based on hard science of cases. They could have a panel of medical experts like Dr Henry, Dr Henshaw and a liberal Province along with Dr Tam setting these levels. Takes all the decisions out of premiers hands and they could say " We have to follow the federal mandates"

Look at Australia they shut down all travel from India. Even if your an Australian citizen you choose to leave now you can wait it out.
Canada one of the first countries to have all the variants and I am sure the next variant will finds it way in here as quick as the Leafs exit the first round


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Remember how O’Toole begged his convention to accept the basic truth of global warming and they, embarrassingly, denied him? You don’t get to rewrite that as election strategy either. The Conservative party actually is just that bad. I get you want to make excuse for them denying the existence of global warming, but that stain will live on their conscience for years to come.
Have to agree with you on this one but you got the current leader that believes in Climate Change and buys a Pipeline that one seems crazy as well
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05-02-2021 , 07:53 PM
Lozen , don’t you believe in pragmatism ?
Which imo a good politician should be instead of being lead by pure ideology?

You can believe ( strange choice of words speaking about science when science is all about replacing beliefs by facts ) in climate change and still be pragmatic in realizing we need oil for the next 30 years anyway since green energy couldn’t possibly be enough to sustain the demand of energy by itself .....

Trudeau , on that aspect at least , is pragmatic from my POV.
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05-02-2021 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Yup Alberta sucks right now and just like at the Federal level has no leadership on Covid. Sadly you just cant throw money at it and reduce cases

Imagine if our federal government put out directives that dictated when you need to shut down sectors based on hard science of cases.
Yeah, I can imagine that - it would suck. That's probably why it's not the way our government works in Canada; health is a provincial matter, so that decisions can be made locally as needed for our unique circumstances.

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They could have a panel of medical experts like Dr Henry, Dr Henshaw and a liberal Province along with Dr Tam setting these levels.
You mean, like they already do, minus "setting these levels"? My understanding is these health officials talk frequently.

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Takes all the decisions out of premiers hands and they could say " We have to follow the federal mandates"
Pass.

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Originally Posted by lozen
Look at Australia they shut down all travel from India. Even if your an Australian citizen you choose to leave now you can wait it out.

Canada one of the first countries to have all the variants and I am sure the next variant will finds it way in here as quick as the Leafs exit the first round
Yeah, it's insane how the variant from India has made the virus spread...actually, wait, I've never seen any information on that making any difference. Have you?
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05-02-2021 , 11:19 PM
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Have to agree with you on this one but you got the current leader that believes in Climate Change and buys a Pipeline that one seems crazy as well
This is such an intellectually dishonest point. The guy you support is simply, indisputably, inarguably, fecklessly, pathetically worse on climate change than Trudeau. He couldn't even convince his own party that global warming existed, let alone that it needed a plan, and when he came out with a plan anyways it was a sad joke.

So why on earth are you pretending to care that Trudeau's vastly superior position on climate change isn't comprehensive enough? Especially when you know I disagree with buying the pipeline, and that I want to do quite a bit more than even Trudeau wants. Your point might be an argument to vote NDP or Green. But you plan to vote conservative, the worst of the bunch of climate change, so you can't pretend to care about tensions in the Trudeau plan with any credibility.
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05-02-2021 , 11:22 PM
Anybody defending australia banning their citizens from returning gome is a meat head. That is a horrible policy and I have no idea how it is even legal

Stop comparing canada to australia ffs. Does your brain even work lozen?
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05-03-2021 , 12:24 AM
Proud boys canada dissolves itself

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rrorist-entity
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05-03-2021 , 09:05 AM
Wow can this guy lie anymore
Its clear now that Trudeau is lying to us that his cabinet did not know it was a sexual complaint against General Vance
700 woman testified in 2015. Yet the liberals did nothing. Many will feel Justin and the Defense minister sexually assaulted them again
Now they get to wait a year for a report that just will say the same thing



Though once bill C10 is passed the liberals will just remove any video they do not like
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05-03-2021 , 10:29 AM
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Yeah, I can imagine that - it would suck. That's probably why it's not the way our government works in Canada; health is a provincial matter, so that decisions can be made locally as needed for our unique circumstances.
Yet resources are managed by provinces but a global climate change is occurring so the Federal Government mandated a plan supported by the Supreme Court. I would call Covid a global issue


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Anybody defending australia banning their citizens from returning gome is a meat head. That is a horrible policy and I have no idea how it is even legal

Stop comparing canada to australia ffs. Does your brain even work lozen?
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Why do folks need to travel to India? So you are not allowed in top see your dying relative from Covid here in Canada but you can fly to another country to do it?

Yes Australia is a an Island but they seem to be doing a damn good job
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05-03-2021 , 12:25 PM
I love how lozen is easily impressed by the mother of all apples to oranges comparisons about australia, except OF COURSE doesn't ever talk about how Canada has a vastly, vastly superior vaccination program compared to Australia. And note that Canada can't really help that it has an integrated economy with the worlds largest covid19 country, but australia really could have been more like Canada in its vaccine procurement.

The real lesson here is don't compare apples to orange, but at least if you are going to do that, at least do it completely.
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05-03-2021 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I love how lozen is easily impressed by the mother of all apples to oranges comparisons about australia, except OF COURSE doesn't ever talk about how Canada has a vastly, vastly superior vaccination program compared to Australia. And note that Canada can't really help that it has an integrated economy with the worlds largest covid19 country, but australia really could have been more like Canada in its vaccine procurement.

The real lesson here is don't compare apples to orange, but at least if you are going to do that, at least do it completely.
Though you do realize vaccinations not really a priority when you have no cases I mean 12 new cases

No question we can not copy everything that Australia is doing. Of course the US/Canada border is an integral part of trade. Though when you have enough travel loopholes to drive a mack truck through ......
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05-03-2021 , 04:54 PM
Ya I mean why worry about vaccinating when you can just abandon your citizens abroad and lock down entire regions when 3 people test positive. That sounds normal and totally the way to go

Lozen your posts should really come with a disclaimer that you have no idea what you're saying
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05-03-2021 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
You don’t get to just utter anti-vaxxer nonsense (aka the first tweet), then have that magically be excused by saying oh of course you support them (aka the second tweet). It’s the exact same **** as doing racist dog whistles then profusing how much you aren’t racist right after.
Always amazes me how leftists believe they can mind read. What was "anti-vaxxer? The fantastics/zealots like yourself are making this a partisan wedge issue, which is why I was asked 3 times itt if I would take a vaccine. When no credible pundits or politician from the right is an actual anti-vaxxer outside of leftist imaginary reality you live in.

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Originally Posted by uke_master
Remember how O’Toole begged his convention to accept the basic truth of global warming and they, embarrassingly, denied him? You don’t get to rewrite that as election strategy either. The Conservative party actually is just that bad. I get you want to make excuse for them denying the existence of global warming, but that stain will live on their conscience for years to come.

Any conservative should be utterly embarrassed that this man was almost elected by them.

Is it global warming or climate change? I think you better check your little red book and make sure you are using the proper buzzwords.
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05-03-2021 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Holy ****, Alberta has more cases per thousand right now than any province. Or any US state. Even the most backward vaccine delaying right wing states in the us. Alberta is worse than all of them. SHUT IT DOWN.
Shutdown season in the oilsands. The town of Fort McMurray at least triples in people from all over the world, country and province, working/staying in close quarters. I think they have opened vaccinations to a larger age group in the area recently though.
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05-03-2021 , 07:13 PM
The stupid anti lockdown rodeo rally with 2000 unmasked people attending didn't help much. No clue what our police forces are doing letting something like that go.
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05-03-2021 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
The stupid anti lockdown rodeo rally with 2000 unmasked people attending didn't help much. No clue what our police forces are doing letting something like that go.
Wasn't there anti-lockdown protests all across the country the past few days and a big one in Montreal? Not sure why the rodeo is getting so much attention.

NS smashing records for cases the past few days, they always got so much praise.
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05-04-2021 , 02:59 AM
Without az shots on the horizon canada is looking to mix and match doses. Found a bunch of articles saying it should be safe, but all admit there isn't solid proof either way. Some say it could increase your immune response, others say it shouldn't make a difference either way. The cdc (u.s.) explicitly states not to mix vaccines as there is no concluded research on it

What do you hooligans think about this?

I got my az shot 2 and half weeks ago, and am looking forward to my personal zombie cocktail that awaits me
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