The reality is many folks think he has done a good job on vaccines. Canada now does rank very high on dozes given and the next few months look good

Though I agree calling an election will not get him a majority and the NDP's are broke and do not want an election so they will not force one. He could be the first prime minister to run a full term as a minority. I really think he has no chance at a majority either if he calls an election. At best they gain some NDP seats in BC .

I just can not see the Liberals winning a majority with Trudeau at the helm. Just as the Conservatives screwed themselves by having the vote denying climate change

Except he actually did a pretty decent job against massive headwinds. Instead of the original 6 million promised in Q1, we got 9.5 million. Last week we heard that an additional 5M of pfizer and 4.4 of AZ were being pushed into Q2 from Q3. We're going to be WAY ahead of all the projected targets people that were good months ago, and largely due to serious complex negotiations with the companies, the US, india, the EU, etc. All of this despite having zero manufacturing, very little leverage, an INTENSE vaccine nationalism from the countries like the US which do manufacture things. This is why after a bit of a dip in feb around the pfizer retooling factory issue, Canada is extremely competitive with the other non-manufacturing first world countries again.

Honestly, it's pretty amazing we are in as good a shape as we are.

What common sense is that? Either you believe the precautions, guidelines and restrictions work or they don't? If you do believe they work and everyone in the store is following them what difference does it make if 1 person or the entire household is there?

Because common sense says that there are no precise lines where risk goes to zero. I'm not in mortal danger 5.5 feet away from you, and then 100% safe when I move 6 inches. I'm not in mortal danger when there's 200 people in Costco, but 100% safe when there's 199.

If a Costco location isn't at limits at a particular time, then less people bringing their families just means a little less risk of transmission for everyone. If they are at a limit with people lined up outside, then bringing families means either people are waiting longer if Costco is counting people, or the store is more crowded if they are counting families as "one".

That said, as it is now I'm not going to be judging people for shopping together - there might be legitimate reasons they need to do so. Or maybe they're going to split up and get their shopping done faster. I'm not going to lose too much sleep over the whys of it, but I would like to see less of it - especially the few that bring everyone in and then shop in a pack of 4 or more, slowly meandering through the store and making it hard not to pass right next to them to get anywhere.

I must say I do feel a lot safer in grocery stores now that everyone is wearing masks than I did last spring, even though there were fewer cases then. And I hate the masks and can't wait for them to be over.

Yes exactly, that was my point. If all guidelines are being followed and it's still not 100% safe does the family who follows all guidelines while out shopping really change anything? I mean I fly a few times a month on full airplanes shoulder to shoulder with strangers but that family out for a shopping trip is just awful! Smh.

Ah, so we can't be 100% safe, so what does any of it matter, amirite?

So that's what common sense looks like.

You seriously come across as a government shill

He is a Trudeau Bot

What part of his post is inaccurate?

Well dino, nothing here is amazing

Would you have preferred "significantly exceeded expectations"?

Let's go back in time 4 months when the initial "6 million by end of Q1" target was released and, from what I can tell, everyone in this thread thought that was good, if it could be reached, but we were all pretty worried it wouldn't happen. I know I was. But we hit 9.5 millions in Q1. Canada passed 10 million today. and vaccinated 1% of its population in a single day yeterday. There are 2.2 million more this week. And it is a series of pretty complex negotiations that have made this possible with multiple stakeholders facing enormous nationalistic headwinds and pressures globally.

We are already experiencing a shift. Ontario is now significantly lagging doses given to does received by over a million iirc. We need to get shots in arms because it is going to be a LOT of shots over the next couple months. That is now largely dependent on provincial infrastructure. There is also some risk that selfish vaccine shopping like delaying an AZ vaccine to try and get a Pfizer will cause further delays.

Exceeded procurement expectations is def better

We will see how the next few months pan out

LOL Selfish vaccine shopping. At least my province hasn't trashed dozes of vaccines

I am still not eligible so technically I am not yet guilty of vaccine shopping.

A little added note how with such a shortage of vaccines are you not administering every one. Heck announce over the intercom we have 10 unused doses come and get them if your in the pharmacy.

Oh yeah woke liberals believe they should be tossed before someone who does not qualify gets one

How does the BC Health Minister sleep knowing she may have killed so many by tossing vaccines

Are you just talking out of your ass? Did you read some article that had BC in the title and just get throthing mad? I might have missed a story so please - as always - QUOTE YOUR DAMNED SOURCES but my quick google shows

and

WTF are you talking about?

While we all eagerly await lozen providing the link that justifies why the BC Health Minister (who lozen misgenders) shouldnt be able to sleep at night, let's return for a moment to the excellent news about vaccines.

• We have now soared past our european counterparts: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...8LMUKX3l23SRug
  
• That rate is increasing and projected to continue increasing. A lot.
• Another way to look at this is we are basically ~1 month behind the US. Let's think about how crazy that is. The US developed the top vaccines, has a tonne of manufacturing power for it and doesn't allow for any exports. Canada has neither. And we're one month behind.
• Basically in 100 days every eligible adult will have gotten the first dose.

This third wave is looking painful. Very painful. I think BC should be shutting down much harder. But the vaccine story is SUCH good news.

OMG I misgendered someone call for a ban. I meant Dr Henry

I was under the impression that BC and Ontario are the only two provinces to waste vaccines?

We are not a month behind the USA and in fact we are getting to the marks you stated by ignoring the manufacturers protocols for a second dose which I actually think may be a wise decision.

We had a piece run on Global here were folks were upset that people were getting the vaccine doses that were not in the groups allowed. Some pharmacies in Calgary instead of tossing them offered them to anyone that could get there in an hour. Of course they had some folks in the interview that were outraged.

So lets give Trudeau Credit again for vaccine procurement

Yet the campaign promise of transparency ? Nope
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...euW_VAKX15pI74

The Feminist prime minister still has done nothing to protect women in the military and stands by a defense minister that ignored the evidence and only keeps him because he raises a ton of cash . Or is it because the prime minister himself a person that sexually assaulted someone is protecting his own. At least someone is apologizing

https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/2c12f...8/?jwsource=cl

Cite or ban.

Remember, your claim here is:
I'm sure you have an ironclad link here to justify just an outrageous claim.

Here's what I think happened, and again I'm just guessing until you provide an actual refrence. I think you might have casually seen a story about the Haida Gwaii situation that I quoted where a bunch of vaccines were warming and needed to be used quickly. Maybe you saw a version of that story early before you saw the resolution? In the end, as I quoted, a call was put out to the community exactly as you wish for and not a single dose was wasted.

If so, this should be an important lesson for you. I hope you learn it this time. Namely, you are leaping to the most outrageous version of a partial half story you barely read without bothering to inform yourselves of the fact because it is about your political enemies. This is the "harper ended residential schools" bit all over again. Stop it.

There you go ignoring Justin's lack of transparency and a defense minister that should be fired

Hey if you want to ban me go ahead. Maybe you can get a double whammy for misgendering as well

Can you imagine being the guy who says this:

and then completely fails to provide any form of reference for what they are talking about? How embarassing. I'm presuming you have by now realized that you were completely wrong and don't have any references, and hence why you are trying to pivot to new topics.

Let me be explicit one more time: Do you have any reference for your claim that he BC Health Minister has allowed tossing vaccines?

JFC dude, you posted "How does the BC Health Minister sleep knowing she may have killed so many by tossing vaccines", and when asked where you got that from, haven't even directly responded other than to say "I was under the impression that BC and Ontario are the only two provinces to waste vaccines?"

I guess we are just to assume you just made it up for fun?

Oh I am searching for it and the only link I can finds so far is BC saying there have been no Serious Issues of vaccine wastage. I have Ontario wasting 1500 doses and Alberta 86

Yeah I cant find it best I can do is No serious wastage