It was a $350. Still low stakes if you ask me for the live arena but it is. Serious point here. Do white people (I’m white) ever stop to think about how different black people have it? I’m so sick of hearing old white men defend kyle rittenhouse like he did nothing wrong and was protecting the neighborhood from looting etc.

Do they not understand systemic racism? Like who in their right mind would go to a place where looting is happening with a gun and try to protect honestly? Like the judgement by kyle
Rittenhouse alone should be punished. Like what good is going to happen by going into that situation? It’s simple risk/ reward. The risk is insanely high and if nothing bad happens to you going into that situation with a gun…. What did you really accomplish by going? Rittenhouse should be punished for just being a massive dolt.

I told this white old guy this. He got angry and said thankfully most people aren’t like you. It’s like dude, use your f’ing brain. Idc what anyone says. America is always going to be a racist country due to old folk that can’t get with the times. I’m so sick of white people not looking at how different the world can be just based on your skin color. Am I perfect? No. Do I understand racism? Hell no. Am I lucky or be white and not black? Sorry to say it but yes I’m lucky to be white and never understand the oppression others go through.




Btw this is off topic but want to bring it up. Then people started saying how great the US was. I’m like are you serious? Is England, Germany, france, etc not great. What makes the US so f’ing amazing? I had an Asian guy that was clearly an immigrant say America was great due to freedom and he’s from Vietnam etc and they aren’t free etc. then he said even though people used to make fun of him when he was young bc he couldnt speak English and say racist things to him….. ohhbbb America is so great. I wanted to ask the guy how the f you could love a country where people are blantaly racist toward you but didn’t even bother. He sounda kinda stupid if you ask me. It’s like bro, comparing the us and Vietnam is not what I’m talking about.
You guys were all fed this bullshit narrative that America is so great and you’ve never even been out of the country. How can you say other countries aren’t great when you haven’t even visited? I mean we just had a president in the US where 50% of the people hated him while 50% loved him and his odd rhetoric. Like how can you honestly say this country is so great when people are so divided politically? Idk maybe I’m crazy but I think people need to get out of their bubble thinking where they live is so wonderful when they have been fed almost propaganda like info their whole life.

lozen was suggesting that Rittenhouse would sue people, not the other way around.

Yeah it’s not a real question. Just pointing out how ridiculous it is that it’s even a thing

I hope he sues the **** out of everyone he can and wins, again.

Sandman got like $250 million. Like NFL contracts you build off that number.

hehe at "thugs"

Thugs might not be the best word to use. I would have chosen something like pieces of **** or wastes of oxygen.

Off topic….why did everyone high five and thought it was badass when Chicago Latin Kings turned up and protected their neighborhood? When other people did the same, not so much?

Because they weren't white males.

also Curtis Sliwa

It’s just odd how things are seen. If Kyle was black people and media loudmouths would be flip flopping so fast. Weird how what he looks like matters. We all saw a video of someone defending themselves. Doesn’t matter who it is or what they look like.

Really? Seems to me that he's got a cushy career all lined up for him; prominent guest on right-wing media, can get a ghostwritten book that will sell out, make speeches at CPAC, etc. The remaining Koch or the Mercers will probably keep him afloat for decades. And even after all that is gone he can probably get, like, a celebrity boxing match with Greta Thunberg or something. Let's save our concern for the thousands of people on the street who ALSO didn't shoot anybody.

(for the record I'm in favor of your "get[ting] rid of the guns, tear up tht rotten old piece of paper if you have to" idea)

You know how when people regularly call you a right-winger/conservative and you get all confused and claim you're somewhere on the left?

Spay and neuter your lozens

They all sound like bad paths to me.

The 'save the concern' thing is a mistake. The problems are political, systemic and societal. If they're not tackled then concern for the victims and scrots alike makes no difference in the scheme of things.

At some poimnt the progressives are going to have face the fact that a law of moses type system is not ever going to solve the problems. Wise 'men' interpreting a centuries old piece of paper is a nonsense way to run anything.

Nothing to add. This is a good, if not great post. Quoted for posterity.

The over/under on what Sandmann got in all his lawsuits combined is probably ~$2 million (before legal fees, so he'd personally have got much less). None of them were ever made public and the one against CNN is the only one that might possibly have been settled for more than nuisance money.

Being rich, famous, and loved by a millions-deep group of your fellow humans doesn't sound like a bad path to me! You think Kyle Rittenhouse would have become some peace-loving philanthropist if only he hadn't shot people with that powerful gun he voluntarily brought with him to Kenosha? No. This is as good as it gets for him! I don't think he's going to have any existential crises or something when he's sitting on his piles of money and fame. He doesn't strike me as that type.

Yes, "the problems" are indeed political, systemic and societal. We all have a finite level of capacity for concern and available resources, let's save that for the people getting crushed by these problems and just barely surviving instead of blowing it on this Rittenhouse ******* who is gonna be juuuust fine.

If KR were black he'd likely be in jail. As much as I loved seeing Peter Boyle control the prosecution I suspect he wouldn't have tried so hard if not for the implied 'self defense is for white folk' criteria.

Mr Plum Tree to you.

I think he wouldn’t. The video showed no crime being committed other than the mob attacking him. Skin color wouldn’t matter. People just want to think it would to fit their way I guess.

We have to tackle the problems or it's cry all you want afterwards, everytime. Again and again and again

Ok. It sounds like a bad path to me.

Americans are babies. The worst part of getting older is to have to listen to people who literally have it made. Their lives are nothing but leisure and yet them whine and complain and pretend they're in some sort of epic struggle.

STFU Boomer. lol

We'll never know. I'd like to think it wouldn't but I'm pretty sure it would.

I mean that's not 'my' way. It's just how things tend to go in the legal system.

It’s the clearest video I’ve seen of someone not doing anything wrong. Wouldn’t matter the skin color. People want it to but it just wouldn’t. Now if there wasn’t video who knows because then you’re depending on people giving testimony that can be fabricated.

Yup.

There is a completely made up pretense on the far right that he got a massive payout like $250MM but that is just nonsense.

Settlements are done to avoid the large awards risk they might be exposed to in a loss. $250MM is not the type of amount they would think is a good compromise number as they likely would pay more in a loss. $250MM would be considered a huge outsized win and almost certainly appealed and reduced in appeal even if awarded so no way I see that number being given voluntarily.

But that won't stop the far right dreaming about it.

Yeah no one knows and both sides want to guess on the low and high end.