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Well, perhaps that should have been your answer to Wookie then, as you guys brought up this now is he really dead "serious issue." That is if his name has always been Wookie. Has it? Who can really say. I thought it was Cookie. Anyway, perhaps you are hiding something about Elvis. Baden and Elvis have the same number of letters and both are worth 8 in Scrabble. That cannot be just a coincidence, we better check that handbook.

All the best.

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06-07-2020 , 07:32 PM

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As I've said a bunch at this point-- the fact that Michael Baden was the pathologist hired by his family is a giant red flag for me. As far as I am aware, the last autopsy that Baden "observed" was Epstein. And you know what I think about that.
But that doesn't really seem too germane to the point that I was making--which is corona is either dangerous or it isn't. And if it is (and I still think it's massively overhyped) then there isn't a BLM special exception.

The KKK and Richard Spencer and David Duke are encouraging the protests so that the black community can be herded into one place and be easily killed by police or killed by Covid-19.

How do you like my Conspiracy Theory?

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06-07-2020 , 07:33 PM

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I think it's also a sign that "wokeness" has broken people's minds, including the experts. Being woke now over-rides everything. Even public health.

I suppose this is one way of looking at it, and if it was just some random twitter person then sure--but I assume that The Atlantic puts a little bit of thought into what they publish and that they fully understand just how ridiculous the passage that you quoted is

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06-07-2020 , 07:34 PM

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So you are saying you trust the media?

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Duke is worth 9 in Scrabble
Spencer is worth 11 in Scrabble

9/11 - cannot be a coincidence!

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06-07-2020 , 07:35 PM

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Well, perhaps that should have been your answer to Wookie then, as you guys brought up this now is he really dead "serious issue...."
Anyway, perhaps you are hiding something about Elvis. Baden and Elvis have the same number of letters and both are worth 8 in Scrabble. That cannot be just a coincidence, we better check that handbook.

All the best.

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06-07-2020 , 07:41 PM

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It is incredibly foolish to say that danger is some binary. Danger is obviously a continuum, and accepting danger may or may not make sense based on the goal. Some people are taking a greater risk than the protesters (by being inside in a crowd rather than outside in a crowd) so as to give their money to casino tycoons in exchange for a little entertainment. Others are taking a risk to protest against systemic police abuse of black people. Only one of those things upsets Kelhus and Joe!

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06-07-2020 , 07:43 PM

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This is totally fine

What's totally fine?

How many extra covid deaths caused by these mass protests is fine by you exactly? Ten thousand, twenty thousand, fifty thousand?

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06-07-2020 , 07:46 PM

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What's totally fine?

How many extra covid deaths caused by these mass protests is fine by you exactly? Ten thousand, twenty thousand, fifty thousand?

Spare me your indignation when you are advocating opening up for far less important things.

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06-07-2020 , 07:47 PM

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It is incredibly foolish to say that danger is some binary. Danger is obviously a continuum, and accepting danger may or may not make sense based on the goal. Some people are taking a greater risk than the protesters (by being inside in a crowd rather than outside in a crowd) so as to give their money to casino tycoons in exchange for a little entertainment. Others are taking a risk to protest against systemic police abuse of black people. Only one of those things upsets Kelhus and Joe!

They are not only risking themselves. They are risking everyone they come into contact with when they go back to their communities.

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06-07-2020 , 07:50 PM

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Spare me your indignation when you are advocating opening up for far less important things.

Opening up with sensible guidelines, and having mass protests with hundreds of thousands of people all jammed together are totally different scenarios.

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06-07-2020 , 07:51 PM

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Spare me your indignation when you are advocating opening up for far less important things.

Wookie does have a point here. You can't complain about the lockdowns and then complain about people protesting as it relates to corona.
You definitely can point out the ridiculousness of those saying that every human is a biological weapon but that they should gather in the streets anyway.

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06-07-2020 , 07:54 PM

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lol joe stop weakening your game by actually being a dumb **** instead of acting like one

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06-07-2020 , 07:54 PM

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+1

The worthier the cause, the greater the willingness to accept greater risks.

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06-07-2020 , 07:56 PM

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Opening up with sensible guidelines, and having mass protests with hundreds of thousands of people all jammed together are totally different scenarios.

You cheer on openings without any sensible guidelines.

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06-07-2020 , 07:58 PM

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Wrong.

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06-07-2020 , 08:01 PM

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And good luck with trying to get people to conform with lockdowns or social distancing from now on. These health experts have effectively torpedoed any chance of that happening, by encouraging the protests.

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06-07-2020 , 08:03 PM

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Absolutely none of this or anything else is Trump's fault though, right? Just trying to help you get back to that fake character mode.

All the best.

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06-07-2020 , 08:24 PM

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The worthier the cause, the greater the willingness to accept greater risks.

For sure-- but you start opening up various cans of worms if the argument goes 'these sorts of large public gatherings are acceptable and those ones are not'--as if there needs to be a moral component in whether or not people can gather.
I was at the beach today which is exactly the sort of behavior that has been condemned, and it takes something special to argue that that is unacceptable whereas gathering in the streets to protest isn't--especially when it's coming from elitist publications like The Atlantic.

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06-07-2020 , 08:30 PM

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The real example of doublespeak is arguing that the EXTREMELY densely populated protests against police violence are acceptable to public health, but the much less populated protests against govt mandated closedowns are not acceptable.

In fact, in a different section of The Atlantic article than the one Joe copied they explicitly say this, and the LA Public Health Dept. says much the same thing.

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06-07-2020 , 08:31 PM

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As I've said--it's all about the mixed messaging. We've seen it from Trump and "the right" and now we're seeing it from "the left".
One conspiracy guy I watched has said we're going to have the "summer of confusion" followed by the "winter of pain". And that seems about right.

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06-07-2020 , 08:49 PM

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Wrong.

Let's look at how joe reacted to the white, conservative protesters who were packed close without masks:

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This is what fighting genuine fascism looks like guys.

The real deal.

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Obey, or else.

https://wwmt.com/news/coronavirus/go...-19-05-15-2020

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Beats waiting at home to die. May as well have some fun while you're doing it.

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06-07-2020 , 08:50 PM

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Absolutely none of this or anything else is Trump's fault though, right? Just trying to help you get back to that fake character mode.

All the best.

Nope, nevermind that Trump has been calling for an end to all restrictions for weeks now, it's actually 100% the health experts' fault.

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06-07-2020 , 09:08 PM

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When it's for a good cause the corona threat is minimized.
Part of the official propaganda regarding corona would seem to be being as ridiculous as possible. It's the whole breaking people's minds thing. If you can get them to believe that corona is a super deadly threat but that they should be out protesting anyways, then you've captured them. They'll believe anything.

Would you characterize human's approaches to pretty much any of the new diseases we've dealt with historically as ideal from the get go? To me the whole thing looks about par for the course overall. Pretty much all of the big ones have been kind of a fiasco. Some stuff makes sense, lots of fear(some rational some not) misinfo, superstition etc etc

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06-07-2020 , 09:16 PM

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lol joe stop weakening your game by actually being a dumb **** instead of acting like one

No, I genuinely am dumb. It's not an act.

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06-07-2020 , 09:21 PM

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Nope, nevermind that Trump has been calling for an end to all restrictions for weeks now, it's actually 100% the health experts' fault.

Has trump even tried to play the Covid card with the protests? Serious question. He certainly has expressed strong reasons for wanting to use strong force to quash the protests. But I have never heard him give that as a reason.

Anyways, I don’t know how much covid is going to spread because of all these protests (or going to the beach). I don’t think anyone does. The point is, as lockbox articulates, from Day 1 the “experts” seem to have used this crisis as a way to test just how much contradictory BS they can get the sheeple To buy. And the answer so far seems to be “A Lot”

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