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06-08-2020 , 03:58 PM
From an article:

Fewer people are testing positive for COVID-19 and those who test positive don’t seem to be getting as sick, a UPMC doctor said Thursday.

“All signs that we have available right now show that this virus is less prevalent than it was weeks ago,” said Dr. Donald Yealy, the chair of emergency medicine at UPMC.

Yealy further said, among people who test positive, “the total amount of the virus the patient has is much less than in the earlier stages of the pandemic.”

The proportion of people with COVID-19 getting so sick they need a breathing ventilator has fallen, according to Yealy.

“We see all of this as evidence that COVID-19 cases are less severe than when this first started,” he said.

Yealy said those observations apply to western and central Pennsylvania along with communities in New York and Maryland served by UPMC.
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06-08-2020 , 03:59 PM
The above, if true, is really good news! Here is the full article for those that care to read it.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...ss-severe.html
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06-09-2020 , 01:44 PM
WHO: Sorry about those previous comments regarding asymptomatic spread, that was a misunderstanding, there's still a lot we don't know

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Calling the controversy “a misunderstanding,” Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging disease and zoonosis unit, said that during the news conference Monday, she was trying to respond to a journalist’s question when she said asymptomatic transmission was “very rare.”

“I wasn’t stating a policy of WHO or anything like that,” she said. “We do know that some people who are asymptomatic, or some people who do not have symptoms, can transmit the virus on.”

It was not the “intent of WHO to say there is a new or different policy,” added Mike Ryan, head of emergency programs for WHO. “There is still too much unknown about this virus and still too much unknown about its transmission dynamics.”

While asymptomatic transmission does occur, no one knows for sure how frequently that happens. Studies and models have suggested many of those infected never show symptoms. And it remains an open question whether they are a large force driving transmission. At the same time, however, some countries using contact tracing to work backward from confirmed cases have not found many instances of asymptomatic spread, WHO officials noted.
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06-09-2020 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
WN,

We have had this discussion before, and I doubt this is the time it is going to turn you around either. But I'll say it again. The social sciences are completely corrupt. Those public health "experts" aren't scientists. They are activists. The entire field is controlled by activism, as opposed to any pursuit of rational, data based science. And I think this corruption is a big part of why we have been unable to deal with the COVID crisis in anything resembling an intelligent fashion.

When they told us international flying was safe it was activism, not science or reasoning, guiding their recommendations. When they told us it was fine to go out and mingle in public, same thing. When they told us not to wear masks in public, the same. Now they are telling us it is safe to protest in large groups. Again, it is just activism. At this point there is nothing a public health official could tell me about public health that I would trust. I would rather take the advice of a 10 year old on the street. And that is a sorry state of affairs indeed.
Bolded seems like quite the claim to make without, you know, even a single shred of evidence. Got any?
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06-09-2020 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Bolded seems like quite the claim to make without, you know, even a single shred of evidence. Got any?
It's not merely a fabrication. It's also obvious projection, as his pet evolutionary psychology monkeybusiness isn't the least bit scientific. It's pure activism.
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06-09-2020 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
WN,

We have had this discussion before, and I doubt this is the time it is going to turn you around either. But I'll say it again. The social sciences are completely corrupt. Those public health "experts" aren't scientists. They are activists. The entire field is controlled by activism, as opposed to any pursuit of rational, data based science. And I think this corruption is a big part of why we have been unable to deal with the COVID crisis in anything resembling an intelligent fashion.

When they told us international flying was safe it was activism, not science or reasoning, guiding their recommendations. When they told us it was fine to go out and mingle in public, same thing. When they told us not to wear masks in public, the same. Now they are telling us it is safe to protest in large groups. Again, it is just activism. At this point there is nothing a public health official could tell me about public health that I would trust. I would rather take the advice of a 10 year old on the street. And that is a sorry state of affairs indeed.
Cite for the bolded because I think you're lying.
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06-09-2020 , 05:31 PM
TOTAL VICTORY (for the virus)
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06-09-2020 , 05:57 PM
Nobody is going to accept lockdowns anymore after the mass protest debacle and the blatant hypocrisy shown by the health "experts" who endorsed them.

So the US is going to have to follow the Sweden strategy from now on.
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06-09-2020 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
Nobody is going to accept lockdowns anymore after the mass protest debacle and the blatant hypocrisy shown by the health "experts" who endorsed them.

So the US is going to have to follow the Sweden strategy from now on.
We knew that there were 60 million morons in America 3.5 years ago. This isn't news.
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06-09-2020 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
Nobody is going to accept lockdowns anymore after the mass protest debacle and the blatant hypocrisy shown by the health "experts" who endorsed them.

So the US is going to have to follow the Sweden strategy from now on.
Which came first, joe, protests, or OPEN FOR BUSINESS?
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06-09-2020 , 07:14 PM
The interesting thing is that Joe doesn't give a crap one way or the other if businesses open, stay open, fail, or succeed. Nor really if people die. The only thing he cares about is that the economy will be too weak for Trump to win re-election.

I can 100% guarantee that if it were in Trump's interests for the USA economy to go totally into the shitcan, that Joe would be cheering its demise with the best pair of pompoms he could afford.
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06-09-2020 , 07:48 PM
I'm just stating the obvious. People are over lockdowns. They aren't going to take anymore. Especially not after the **** show that played out over the last week.

The experts have lost what little (if any) credibility they had left. No one will believe a word they say now, and I don't blame them.
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06-09-2020 , 08:03 PM
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06-09-2020 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
The experts have lost what little (if any) credibility they had left. No one will believe a word they say now, and I don't blame them.
Lying joe, I missed your citation of "experts" saying it's safe to protest. I know you're just trying to dishonestly attribute statements to health officials that they didn't make, but actually, thanks to the disinformation campaign spearheaded by Trump, they never had any credibility with the joe6pack trumpkin crowd you're portraying.
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06-09-2020 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
I'm just stating the obvious. People are over lockdowns. They aren't going to take anymore. Especially not after the **** show that played out over the last week.

The experts have lost what little (if any) credibility they had left. No one will believe a word they say now, and I don't blame them.
Left is actually still very much into this.
Ofcourse not now so much when their brothers and sisters are demonstrating.
But when this whole BLM thingy has blown over its back to #stayhome.
Probably maybe something like #2ndwave...filled with crooked numbers feeded by nobody knows who.
Or otherwise #covid20...
Whatever it takes...left will try it.
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06-09-2020 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
WN,

We have had this discussion before, and I doubt this is the time it is going to turn you around either. But I'll say it again. The social sciences are completely corrupt. Those public health "experts" aren't scientists. They are activists. The entire field is controlled by activism, as opposed to any pursuit of rational, data based science. And I think this corruption is a big part of why we have been unable to deal with the COVID crisis in anything resembling an intelligent fashion.

When they told us international flying was safe it was activism, not science or reasoning, guiding their recommendations. When they told us it was fine to go out and mingle in public, same thing. When they told us not to wear masks in public, the same. Now they are telling us it is safe to protest in large groups. Again, it is just activism. At this point there is nothing a public health official could tell me about public health that I would trust. I would rather take the advice of a 10 year old on the street. And that is a sorry state of affairs indeed.
This is just stupid.

No sane person has said demonstrations are okay as far as the pandemic goes. Either you've over-estimated a pundit or you should do more diligent research. Dr. Fauci himself has stated that the demonstrations are bad as far as the pandemic goes.

The rest is just the completely bog standard motto of "if it disagrees with me, then the science is activism and corrupt", which at this point is is just the absolute dreariest of statements.

Sure, not all science is good science, and you can always dig up an idiot with a degree willing to say something controversial. But give an example and a refutation, instead of sounding like you're debating chem-trails on Facebook.
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06-09-2020 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Left is actually still very much into this.
Ofcourse not now so much when their brothers and sisters are demonstrating.
But when this whole BLM thingy has blown over its back to #stayhome.
Probably maybe something like #2ndwave...filled with crooked numbers feeded by nobody knows who.
Or otherwise #covid20...
Whatever it takes...left will try it.
Yep. "Leftists, protest all you want". Your cause is more important than tens of thousands of covid deaths.

"Conservatives, stay home". We don't agree with your cause and we don't want you killing our grandmas.
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06-09-2020 , 09:34 PM
Joe, it's really heartwarming to see you found a little friend of similar mental acuity to play with. You two are adorable together.
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06-09-2020 , 10:04 PM
Georgia: Open For Business, But Not For Voting
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06-09-2020 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
You two are adorable together.
Yeah...like when u tried to hijack my comment on marksman.
I had him nailed...pin 1,2,3! But no, there was u with the diversions.
gtfo here...pls.
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06-09-2020 , 11:08 PM
Remember Smudger saying he didn't trust case counts, he trusts hospitalizations?

Several states have rising coronavirus hospitalizations following Memorial Day weekend, with many at records for hospitalizations; Arizona is at 76% capacity of ICU beds statewide
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06-10-2020 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by neverbeclever
Yeah...like when u tried to hijack my comment on marksman.
I had him nailed...pin 1,2,3! But no, there was u with the diversions.
gtfo here...pls.
Uh oh. Do you explode when your effective IQ goes below 55?
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06-10-2020 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Uh oh. Do you explode when your effective IQ goes below 55?
Mine does.
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