will there sill be 20-50bb plo games

lmao, have to quote this again, u must b from that spanish shortstacker school, owned hahaha

Agreed. DO NOT MOVE THEM TO A NEW LOBBY. If people want to filter them out, they can.

THIS.

+1 NEW LOBBY PLEASE

i prefer playing at 100bb, but i'm not sure why so many people say this is a lot better for the games. the games were already pretty decent if you didn't mind playing something that might not be exactly your first choice. afaik its pretty generally accepted that increasing the edge good players have over casuals doesn't tend work in favor of the host. its ok to just be happy about something because it favors your self interest though.

Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet! Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy!

<3 stars <3

No. It is still No-limit Hold'em.

in b4 new lobby for cap games

much needed - different game, different lobby

FL =! NL =! PLO =! CAP

no it is not ducy?

Ok, maybe that's not accurate... but it is very close to NL.

Adding 50bb max was the WORST decision PokerStars ever made and DELETING them was the BEST decision they ever made. Those tables were awful for many reasons, but the main reasons were that they were CAP games in NLHE sheep's clothing. They kept the pots small, generated less rake, clipped full stackers win-rate, and most importantly, delivered a PISS POOR NLHE experience to fish, casual players, pros, semi-pros and anyone who wanted to play NLHE. 50bb max were great CAP tables but POOR NLHE tables. You couldn't be more wrong if you said red was blue and poop was chocolate icing. The rake generated went DOWN for Stars because players like ME did leave for Full Tilt and also because everyone had to drop down stakes when the games got tougher and crappier. Then, Stars got even LESS rake from casual players because the pot size was effectively "CAPPED" at 50bb max Hey, welcome to many of OUR worlds last April. I was going for Double Nova and stopped short of my chase in May @ 75k VPP's because the games sucked so bad. I really did leave and picked up with no problem on Full Tilt. But, in YOUR case, you will NOT leave. You are stuck and a slave to the VIP program. You will stay and play CAP or stay and play SNG's/MTT's or stay and become a full stacking ultra nit or quit poker. You won't leave for another site because there is no where else for you to go and you survive off REWARDS and no site has better rewards ... nice try though. I really DID leave last year and really AM coming back. Your threats carry no weight. NO options were removed. You can still buy-in for 20bb at the CAP tables and play the game you were born to play. Wanna buy-in short at NLHE tables? You can still do that. 40bb IS SHORT. You lost NOTHING except the ability to leech off the NLHE player pool and you should have never had that to begin with. Have fun adjusting for the first time in your lives. No. They will not ... for the reasons I said above. 50bb max was a disaster from square one and the fact they weren't around for even a full year is testament to that.

it should have its own lobby called "poison-dont go here"

AGREED

Shortstackers are accusing fish of being stupid. Just because they're bad at poker doesn't mean they're stupid. They can read and understand labels. Put CAP in a separate tab.

Wrong

GJ pokerstars, i feel that this will be better for the 100NL regs and the state of poker as a whole, fish will realize after winning a stack or 2 at cap tables that they cannot technically get "ALL IN" and their rake % is gross to the size of the pot. They will have most of their money in the reserve section (this is why they may not be listed under NL)... the fish or new players will then move to the BIG BOY tables where you have to not only play preflop and flop, but the turn and the river.... Now there is a concept having to play poker for 4 streets of betting instead of 1 or 2!!! Fish will realize this by themselves, however the lobby works itself out!! Cap games should suck overall, although im looking forward to messing about in them a little bit : )

Yay!

Thank you Stars.

So, basically, you didn't remove the 20-50bb tables, you just changed their name to cap? Why leave the option to buyin for 50bbs on the cap tables?

wrong, u can buy in for 50 but u can only be all in for 20BBs at a time... so the rest would be in your reserve, Buy in for one and play an orbit u will figure it out

niiiice

Read again. I know you can do it.

+1 for separate tab.

It is hold'em. But FL is not NL is not CAP. All separate tabs.
In before "What about PL in the NL tab" strawman.

The primary row of tabs indicate poker game structure.
The secondary row of tabs indicate betting structure (for HE and Omaha).
The main feature of the tab system is, imo, to easily direct people to the games they would like to play.

Therefore if you want to play a Limit structure you go to the Limit tab.
NL structured tables go in the NL tab.
CAP structured tables go in the CAP tab.

In terms of similarities in betting structure:
Limit <------------------- NL --- PL ----------> CAP

This means if someone wants to play NL or PL they're not going to notice much difference between the two and will probably be relatively happy with their selection of either. However, they will notice a huge difference between NL/PL and Limit and a rather large difference between NL/PL and CAP. But hey if you haven't looked at the lobby lately to see how many PL games are actually running, I concede, put PL in it's own tab as well if it will make the CAP players happy about having their own tab and things being fair.

The only reason I can see for SSers arguing against having CAP in its own tab is that maybe some people who would rather not be directed to those games would *GASP* not be directed to those games.