Educate yourself. Pokerstars does install software so they can look at what you're doing on your computer: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/

Has your staking 'job' earned you enough to move out of your parents house yet?

'All the best'

I made more this month than you have likely your entire life, but your poverty is not the issue. I suggested you post your paranoid ventings from a different computer at a different location. If you did this then how exactly would they trace you? If you know they are following you here because they own 2+2 then why post here from the same computer and IP as the one you play on Pokerstars?


Riggies and semi-riggies like yourself are the emotional ones. Your recovery (with my help and suggestion) was mainly targeting your mental game/issues. Your current backers likely find you to be relatively adequate as a player, but you are high on the drama/whiny/emotional side.

If a riggie in this thread ever makes me feel legitimately bitter I will be the first to congratulate them for a job well done within the context of this thread.

Anyway, help that dude like I helped you and tell us how it goes.

All the best.

How about because I like posting from the comfort of my home, rather than heading down to an internet cafe to post on 2+2? How about because they already know my username on Pokerstars now so it makes no difference anyway?

And well, if you've made more than I have in my lifetime this month, all I can say is those 2nl grinders must be doing you proud, and there must have been some very generous tipping when you did your pizza delivery rounds.

Then based on your beliefs your laziness is why the spooky overlords can track you and put a doomswitch on you on hands you play as badly as possible.



If it makes no difference then how does posting here make a difference like you suggest? If it does make a difference then apparently where you post makes a difference so that posting from the internet cafe will at least remove the 2+2 aspect from your personal conspiracy.



Having players win the big 55, FT the Sunday Million and win the Big 11 tend to be a bit better than the stakes/amounts you speak about from experience. Never backed a 2NL player, so I could not comment on those games at all, but I bet you can . What games do you play?

Remember, they are watching your lazy ass. You should contact Laurents to see if he can chat with you about your beliefs and help you through them, as he seems eager to help you.

All the best.

I'd just call them "some more boring ****ing hands", but whatever. Solid sample, clearly a fish. You know you were literally never ahead in this hand, right? Like, the "short stack donkey" wasn't even setmining, because his hand was better than yours. LOL. Just...wow. See how SBs numbers are all bigger than yours at all times? I didn't know cards had genders, let alone the ability to be gay. Anyway, let's look at this brutal rig. Uh oh, we're already in trouble. Villain's not a short stack, or a fish, or anything else. No wonder you lost this hand because of the "gay ass cards" and not because of your opponent. Looks good so far, now let's see what lets villain hit his "gay ass river card" Oh. Well that was disappointing. Is your normal value line to bet the flop then check call when the turn and river brick out? It probably is, since you're laughably terrible, but I was just curious. Should villain have just folded on the turn when you checked to him, out of respect?

You don't get to bitch about villains getting there when you rolled out a red ****ing carpet for them, you jackass.
Oh, now your 22/17 villian is a donk. If they "all make it", why do you only have 3 ****ty hands to post? Wah wah wah, poor baby loses a hand he's supposed to lose 4 out of 5 times. Well obviously, they don't want all you horrible ******s beating up on each other. You only suck out on players who are better than you.

I explained to you with an example that it is not possible to prove that it is not rigged. You are too dumb to get that, yet call other people mule.

If it was rigged and there was a riggie with a brain, then it would be probable. I leave it to your imagination which of these two premises is not true.

My money is on "both".

You can't prove a negative is a negative so you cant prove that you cant prove a negative.

Oh good, I wondered when The Final Boss of Poker was going to greet us with his presence. Still don't know why he's not sat on his private yacht with a load of supermodels, but I guess after making millions from the game he feels he has to 'give back' to the community sometimes.

Oh don't give me that line. We both know pairs lower than JJ are meant to try and hit a set, and are to be bailed on when you don't.

3bet pot, and a villain with 61bb's, I have TPTK. Obviously all the money is going into this pot.

See how Pokerstars deals 2 cards that ensures money goes into the pot? If I don't get an ace or king, I don't stack off. If he doesn't get a 9, he doesn't stack off. But wait, Pokerstars gives him the 9 and me the ace to ensure I get ****ed over.

But my sets never get paid off since this never happens in reverse.

Course that's a standard value line. You bet the flop and villain will call wider than an ace because lots of flop bets are bluffs. You then check the turn because if you bet it again you're only getting called if he has an ace. My check let him think his second pair was good, so he bet it when I was well ahead.

But look what happened? Pokerstars knew I was gonna get the donkeys money, and so engineered a river card so that didn't happen.

I could post loads more but the mods on this thread get pissed when I post too many at once.

Problem is I never get AA when someone else has QQ, and if I do I'll only win half the time as the other half he'll spike a Q.

You should have posted that in the coffee shop. Now you are in trouble...

All the best.

A minute to learn, a life time to master.

You keep on pressing on the same things, how predictable you are. I admitted many times that I can be a emotional/whiny/drama guy. I showed more reflectivity in this thread than you did in your whole life. If you are wondering why you are single I can tell you that this is one of the main reasons. How things are looking now for you is that you are going to be a very lonely, sad and depressed millionaire. And I truly feel sorry for you. It is time for you to start working on other things, try to give meaning to other things besides money. Money isn't everything, a hug once in a while is nice to. And I know you need that. So stop being such a mean guy and go on a adventure and conquer some hugs, that would be a real achievement. All this money making is meaningless without having a good hug once in a while.

Montes horses are quite good trolls

But there is data pointing to at least one site being rigged and you cannot prove one not one site is NOT rigged.

I almost never F5 in here, surprisingly.
There is data pointing to at least one person ritualistically murdering and consuming human children and you cannot prove you're not one of them.

Right, it was obvious that you would choose the option that backs up your beliefs, even though the site itself deemed it unlikely. That's why there's no point reasoning with someone like you; your mind is already made up and nothing will sway you from that.

No, we're not, and no, we don't, and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop making things up about 2+2.

Every week I listen to the "2+2 Pokercast presented by the Pokerstars VIP Club" .. they are clearly one and the same company ...


(wink)

I would also like you to moderate the posters i have report post there are very dark undertones here the talk of children and pedophilla is both disgusting and very disturbing.This thread seems to be free for all for psycopath or pervert and not about rigged why is that?

You go from "proven" to "data pointing to" (but there's other, more likely explanations). Why didn't you say that from the beginning?

I'll spell it out for you: It's pretty much an established fact that there are colluding bot rings on iPoker. Colluding bots would do something like analyze the folded cards from other bots in the hand, and adjust accordingly. That would lead to unusual percentages in showdowns. Not a massive bias, but statistically detectable with a sample in proper size.

1. The analysis showed a deviation pretty much exactly as expected if bot rings are present. That means there isn't even any data pointing towards a rig in that case.

You might say, iPoker spreads the bot ring gossip to cover their rig, but even someone of your limited mental capacity should see they would hurt their business more than a rig would improve it. There are surely hundreds, more likely thousands of players that avoid iPoker because of the blatant botting on their site.

2. Even that relatively small (small enough that noone had a chance to notice that before the analysis was done) bias clearly results in a very suspicious deviation from what was expected. No riggie has ever been able to find anything similar on sites that take action against bots. Hundreds of riggies claimed "one must be dumb and blind to not see it" though. That might explain why noone with a brain gives a flying **** on a riggie's "observations" anymore.

3. You are the mule.

Pussy.

You sure are good at deflecting; not sure why you're even bringing the topic up when I already gave a warning and deleted the post you reported. But thanks for the chuckle over what you suggested you might do in that report.

Little over the top and uncalled for, don't ya think?

It was merely a statement of fact, not an accusation.

When you say you cannot prove you are not....that is more of an implication then stating a fact.

Just saying.

on a recent withdrawal, I decided to take an amount that forced me to drop down pretty low in stakes. it's a different world down there. you have to buckle down and play more ABC for there are many huge droolers and you can't beat them with a lot of creativity; you gotta beat them with the best hand.

sometimes that best hand doesn't hold up and you're left wondering how in the world was that guy even IN this hand? this may make it appear that the site is rigged to the casual onlooker (or aspiring player).

it shouldn't bother you because if you didn't lose then these other players in the game wouldn't play. you still need to be losing a large amount of the time or you won't get the game for a small amount of time. I have to admit though that I will never again drop so low where I have to make adjustments like those I have to now-on my way to replenishing the bankroll. it's too damn boring playing like that and it takes too long because you are limited in the moves you can make.

They are not technically the same company however you can clearly see who the top sponsor of the thread is, to use as an advertising platform. Not sure all the perks involved but upon request obviously IP's are shared I would say with certainty.
I've created several websites for clients and it's simple -proxy- I think denying this would be standard, they are not going to come out and say " hey we can do this if necessary". Now what you don't want is the info gained from this to be shared with third parties.