Nothing to do with that , after so many games ive seen to much and got paranoid , i've always been + roi player .

I realized that i have a good roi for the games i play most and that i can´t expect much more winnings playing micro...

I am always the best player at my tables by far, and the best players can win at 10bb/100 or even more. So I should be winning more than that. Problem is I've been sucked out on or coolered so many times by Pokerstars. Like, when you flop TPTK, you should normally win the hand. But every ****ing time I stack off villain somehow had a set or rivered his 2 pair.

Was a 6 handed table but 500000/1 odds is still more than enough evidence to prove a rig. If that hand happened live the table would go mental. Online it's just standard for BS like this to happen.

Guess it's getting time for your pizza delivery rounds soon. Are you still living with your parents and failing to win online tournaments?

It's an estimate. I'm between a 15bb-25bb/100 true winner but your site ****s me over time and time again.

Hi BBED, your estimate is WAY off. There is a far better player than you are, and he played NL2 250bb's deep, and won like 11 bb/100.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...cience-963018/

You are just not as good as you think.

Dude, you are the one floundering in 2NL games, so while I could mock you about buying pizzas the reality is that represents a good week for you .

I make more in a week than you will ever make in a year, and we both know that which makes your whole whine strategy that much more entertaining (aside from it being a bit repetitive).

Good luck this week and let us know if you can win enough to afford a deluxe!

Heh, whiny nanodonks.

All the best.

And what exactly is that estimate based on, wishful thinking?

It's based on the fact I'm clearly a far superior poker player than everyone else on my tables.

Lol yeah sure you do. You make so much that you spend most of your time posting on 2+2 rather than driving your Porsche and nailing 20 year old supermodels. Let's face it, the closest you've ever come to making big money is when 3 of your 6 lottery numbers came up on Saturday.

If AA loses to JTs live, the table goes mental.

The Porsche/supermodel things (and even winning the lottery when someone destitute like you can afford a ticket) are for the most part the goals of shallow nanodonks like yourself. I prefer real estate/land, and you can look up Mark Twain to see why those are a bit more stable long term investments than your dream trinkets.

Be sure to post some more 2NL whine stories, every time you do I smile knowing you are exactly where you deserve to be in life. Fortunately for you, jealousy and bitterness are free, so you can continue to afford them.

Heh, nanostake donks.

All the best

Doubt it.

The best players at 2NL or 4NL winning at 10bb/100hands ... Maybe. 20bb/100 hands .... Nope. Maybe, somewhat possible for someone who is good at many stakes higher to drop to 2NL and 4NL and win at 20bb/100hands, but even then I'm not sure.

That's not the problem


Maybe. If you're talking about a HU pot with AK, then probably yea. If you're talking about A6 on a 6 high flop, then I don't know. If you're talking about 10 people limping in pre, then I'm guessing no.


You certainly shouldn't stack off with TPTK every time. And it makes sense that as the pot size grows, ranges become stronger.






Doubt that you're real.

No, every time somebody has two pair or a set you somehow stack off.

You're not even the best player in the cherry picked hands you post here. You're making your trolling too obvious, dial it back a little.

Actually I guess you get bites either way so run with it.

Dude you don't buy the car and have the hot girl because they're good investments. Jesus Christ...

One thing you certainly don't do if you're swimming in cash is spend most of your waking hours posting on an internet forum. You make at best, average wage, and continue to give it large on this forum to mask your real failures in life.

Pokerstars gives you the cards to ensure you stack off. I.e. if you hold AK, they'll give an A75r flop. However villain will have 77 so when you go to stack off you'll be beat. And on the rare chance you do actually have the best hand, villain will have nothing, so he'll just fold on the flop. Pokerstars ensures you win a small pot or lose a big one unless you're on their list of players that are allowed to win.


Funny how they get to flop sets at the same time I flop TPTK though. Basically a setup by Pokerstars to ensure I lose money.

Look I know I'm a great player so STFU with this BS. I know how to play and in a non-rigged environment I would crush. I always crush in homegames for instance. It's just rigged online poker where I can't win.

Right just checkout this BS for an example of what I mean. Yeah I know it's 888 not Stars, and it's not a massive pot, but the same **** goes on at all poker sites.

888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 217.2 BB (VPIP: 26.63, PFR: 22.61, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 208)
UTG: 115.8 BB (VPIP: 59.62, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 52)
CO: 35.7 BB (VPIP: 43.17, PFR: 3.60, 3Bet Preflop: 2.99, Hands: 143)
BTN: 104.8 BB (VPIP: 24.02, PFR: 16.85, 3Bet Preflop: 4.14, Hands: 1,333)
Hero (SB): 102.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 2 2 T
Hero checks, CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 3 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 9.7 BB, CO calls 9.7 BB

River: (32.4 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 24.3 BB, CO calls 20 BB

CO shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Twos) (Pre 84%, Flop 91%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows Q T (Two Pair, Queens and Tens) (Pre 16%, Flop 9%, Turn 9%)
CO wins 68.8 BB

First off this donkey gets dealt AA. Puts in a ******ed minraise, then a ******ed minbet OTF. 888 ensure I get dealt a ten so I'll be continuing with this hand.

Then on the turn 888 really decides to screw me. I get top 2 on a totally safe board. Clear bet then jam river spot. But of course the donkey has a better 2 pair because of the paired board doesn't he? What a load of ****ing horse****!

henry winkler...Fonzi scheme.

Fold pre-flop. The raiser is a fish, but he barely ever raises pre, he only has 35 big blinds and you are OOP vs. him with a quite mediocre to poor hand for this situation in QTo. And the big blind player left to act has a high 3bet percentage.

As played, turn and river are probably fine.

Flop is blah ... maybe he calls with midpairs so you get value, maybe he folds AK,AJ,KJ type hands so you fold out his equity, though your raise size is giving him 3.3 to 1, so maybe he doesn't always fold out the 2 overcard type hands. What was your reasoning for raising the flop?

LOL.

i bet his reasoning was "the board is 22T and when i saw my own cards it had a T so i have obviously a stacking off hand so i thought it is good to raise to get more money in asap"

I don't like folding two decently connected high cards to a minraise preflop.

And I raised the flop because his 1bb bet into a 5bb pot looked hideously weak and I had top pair, so wanted to get value from whatever crap he had.

Top pair is obviously a stacking off hand especially against a fish like this. Top 2 pair is a stacking off hand against pretty much anyone.

do you even care about board textures and how strong your hand is in the whole spectrum?

If there's 4 to a flush or 4 to a straight on the board I'll fold top pair. If there's only 3 to a flush or straight then it's still a stacking off hand as most bets are bluffs in this game and it's hard to actually make a straight or a flush.

Fine by me but I have to raise to charge the draws. If he's drawing to an ace, king, or jack he needs to pay. Besides 1bb into a 5bb pot? I was never gonna get the money in at that rate of bet sizing so I had to take control myself.

what if i told you......

yeah but not many hands that you beat will call (although i don't mind the flop raise though however the raiser is a nit) but stacking off with QT on 22T is giving away money and hands drawing to a J/K/A will fold most of the time

Well, my advice is to start liking it, or start doing something you don't like, when it is the best way to play.

Obviously he will call your raise with 2X, TX, TT+. What "crap" do you anticipate him calling with?


Once we get to the turn, I am probably getting all-in here also with that effective stack size (though I fold pre-flop so not an issue). However, it isn't as good as top 2 usually is precisely because of the pair of 2s on the board. This villain has a very low PFR %. He will have overpairs a probably not too rare amount.

On this hand and in general when you have top 2 with a lower pair on the board, you need to take into account the fact that you lose to any overpair.


Depends on stack sizes, the particular top, the kicker, the board texture and the action. Blindly always stacking off vs. a "fish" with TP is obviously awful.

Again: depends on stack sizes, the particular top, the kicker, the board texture and the action. Blindly always stacking off with top 2 pair isn't as bad as blindly always stacking off with TP though.

And, as mentioned: When you have top 2 with a lower pair on the board, you need to take into account the fact that you lose to any overpair. Hand ranges can be completely different than they would be if there was not a lower pair on the board.


If villain has a lower two pair than you, he can see the pair on the board and know that his 2 pair is no good in that calling it 2 pair is even a little misleading since if an opponent paired the top card on the board, the opponent wins the hand. Example:

You: KsJs
Villain: ???
Pre-Flop Action: Hero, raises, Villain calls
Flop: Jc 6s 6d;
Flop Action: Hero bets, Villain calls
Turn: Kd
Turn Action: Hero bets, Villain calls
River: Th
River Action: Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero ???

Do you think villain is raising JT on the river? His two pair isn't really that good because any K beats him due to the pair of 6s on the board. If the flop was J62, then maybe you get to stack JT on the river here. But the way the board is, it is pretty likely JT is not in villain's raise/stackoff range. Fact of the matter is, that in this particular hand your top 2 looks to be close to a bluff catcher. KJ (top 2) can't beat much more than a bluff here.

If you have a good day at your nanostakes perhaps you can buy a car and a girl. Granted it would be a Hot Wheels and a Barbie, but hey that's a start for you.

In your world at what amount of salary/money should a person stop using the internet?


Shame Pokerstars is denying you your dream of a Hot Wheels and Barbie, and thank you for posting some more nanostake whine hands to confirm that is your place in life - to whine about nothing.

Some people think you are a troll, because the way you analyze poker is at first glance "intentionally bad," like the recent QT hand where you played as badly as possible and demonstrated no ability to think beyond barely a level 0 level. I actually know that you are genuine, because the world is filled with small time nobodies just like you, so even if you are posting really badly played hands and adding commentary that only a mega donk would say as a troll routine I do not care, because you represent people who are real even in that case. My read is that you are legit bad, so others can enjoy talking "strategy" with you when whether you are a troll or more likely just a life donk the result will be the same - you will not get it (the troll routine it would be an act).

All the best.