The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
01-08-2014
, 01:23 PM
thanks for the reply josem
i understand the psychology of it. but why would a player call AA with a 79 when he doesnt have too? the general vibe is trash hands call for no reason and win in the tournaments i have played
i dont know man- i feel like everyone on this forum is so jaded that even if bovada was rigged we would deny it. Its like the sky is blue in my eyes but everyone tells me its red lol. something is not right with that poker site
i understand the psychology of it. but why would a player call AA with a 79 when he doesnt have too? the general vibe is trash hands call for no reason and win in the tournaments i have played
i dont know man- i feel like everyone on this forum is so jaded that even if bovada was rigged we would deny it. Its like the sky is blue in my eyes but everyone tells me its red lol. something is not right with that poker site
01-08-2014
, 01:25 PM
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why does it seem like the worst hand on Bovada usually wins on the river people call anything and end up winning. There is something seriously fishy going on with this card rooms flops. I feel like it sets players up - and i have seen the most ridiculous stuff happen on the river. You all probably think im crazy but i stand by my statement
people call anything and end up winning. There is something seriously fishy going on with this card rooms flops. I feel like it sets players up - and i have seen the most ridiculous stuff happen on the river. You all probably think im crazy but i stand by my statement
01-08-2014
, 01:31 PM
01-08-2014
, 02:53 PM
But about that "shutdown" thing...would you please explain how exactly is anyone shutting down anything? I mean, i posted an old thread of you and asked you a question. You have not been banned (yet
) , so you are free to post everything you want. It even looks like some people here are encouraging you to keep posting. So where is the part with the shutdown?
01-08-2014
, 04:09 PM
It's not difficult to imagine 97o and AA all-in preflop from time to time. For example, they're short stacked and 97o shoves and gets called by AA. AA might be very short-stacked and 97o might be the big blind.
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i dont know man- i feel like everyone on this forum is so jaded that even if bovada was rigged we would deny it. Its like the sky is blue in my eyes but everyone tells me its red lol. something is not right with that poker site
I had some friends who suspected that they were being cheated on another site, I looked into it just out of interest, did a proper analysis of the data, and happened to turn it into a career.
01-08-2014
, 08:47 PM
freddie, monte - you are both really cool so stop fighting. i dont care if you agree with me or not but i calll it like i see it
as a newcomer here i would like to give all 2 plus 2 posters some advice - please be more open and friendly. Personally what im seeing here in terms of posts and replys (outside of strategy) is a projection of the same stress and anxiety i have been feeling since black friday. i think its best we all stick together because we all love poker and we are all in the same boat right now.
with that being said i stand by my observation of bovadas flops but i have managed to make good of it. i noticed its mostly in tourneys that players get screwed so i switched over to Zone poker and have been making money consistently. turned a lemon into a lemonade. at least for the moment lol
as a newcomer here i would like to give all 2 plus 2 posters some advice - please be more open and friendly. Personally what im seeing here in terms of posts and replys (outside of strategy) is a projection of the same stress and anxiety i have been feeling since black friday. i think its best we all stick together because we all love poker and we are all in the same boat right now.
with that being said i stand by my observation of bovadas flops
but i have managed to make good of it. i noticed its mostly in tourneys that players get screwed so i switched over to Zone poker and have been making money consistently. turned a lemon into a lemonade. at least for the moment lol
01-08-2014
, 09:14 PM
Firstly, this is to be expected a lot of the time, as it is common to get into more all-in situations in tourneys. If you are short stacked you only need to lose one of them, and get your stack in when covered enough times and you will lose one even if you have aces or kings every time.
Secondly, rigging tourneys makes very little sense anyway. You pay the rake for a tourney before play starts. The site makes exactly the same amount of money whoever wins, so there is definitely no monetary incentive to rig a single MTT.
01-08-2014
, 09:21 PM
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Many places on 2+2 are more open and friendly. This thread not so much, because it is basically a dungeon for the repetitive evidence free complaints over rigging. The riggies want to believe that they lose because it is unfair, and they actually deserve to win with their superior poker skills. The rest of us just want someone who alleges a rig to actually show some basis for it, then we can all go home.
The great majority of complaints itt are dollar tournament bad beats.
Firstly, this is to be expected a lot of the time, as it is common to get into more all-in situations in tourneys. If you are short stacked you only need to lose one of them, and get your stack in when covered enough times and you will lose one even if you have aces or kings every time.
Secondly, rigging tourneys makes very little sense anyway. You pay the rake for a tourney before play starts. The site makes exactly the same amount of money whoever wins, so there is definitely no monetary incentive to rig a single MTT.
The great majority of complaints itt are dollar tournament bad beats.
Firstly, this is to be expected a lot of the time, as it is common to get into more all-in situations in tourneys. If you are short stacked you only need to lose one of them, and get your stack in when covered enough times and you will lose one even if you have aces or kings every time.
Secondly, rigging tourneys makes very little sense anyway. You pay the rake for a tourney before play starts. The site makes exactly the same amount of money whoever wins, so there is definitely no monetary incentive to rig a single MTT.
i guess your first paragraph sums it up for me- superior skills should win in my opinion. i guess im wrong , but i remember it paid off for me when we had the big poker sites out here. i just see lack of talent winning too often on bovada.
what i mean by rigging is maybe they throw a bone to the guy who keeps depositing over and over again? or maybe they can run bots to win there big guaranteed tourneys since the tables are anon.? i dont know man. i really dont. i only deposited 50 dollars. ive worked it down to 22 playing SNG's (my fave) but currently im up to 86 playing zone poker.
AND TO MONTE -
the reason i like zone more is because it is more coherent for me. the hands i see are basically the ones i expect. the way people play is much more in tune with the cards they have.....none of that occurs on bovada tourneys or sng's. but thanks for all your insightful posts and i mean that sincerelyzone poker is when you get sent to a new table after you fold fyi *
Last edited by mc858; 01-08-2014 at 09:36 PM.