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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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01-28-2011 , 09:39 AM
Oh, sorry, that was actually my buddy Brian, not Barak and he's busto, not the world economy.

My bad. You can all leave your bunkers and survivalist shelters now.
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01-28-2011 , 10:13 AM
Did you know that the sun is going to expand and send the temperature of the surface of the Earth high enough to melt lead?

And that the Earth's core is going to solidify which will cause its magnetic field to collapse enabling the solar wind to strip away its atmosphere?

Something to consider.


You see, the universe is rigged. )
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01-28-2011 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by beastjr
I cant say his name for obvious reasons but here is where I copy and pasted a text from him.

"Some very crushing news to internet poker is coming out some time in the future"

Insert foot into mouth please
LOLOLOL
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01-28-2011 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Just spoke on the phone with Barak Obama. He's telling me that some very crushing news to the world economy is coming out some time in the future.
Sorry maybe im a little gullable but your joking right?
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01-28-2011 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by beastjr
Just spoke on the phone with a very well known inside man. He's telling me that some very crushing news to internet poker is coming out some time in the future.
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Originally Posted by beastjr
Sorry maybe im a little gullable
Yup.
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01-28-2011 , 03:54 PM
yes your joking?
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01-28-2011 , 03:58 PM
beast - you're trying too hard right now. Levels only work in moderation, they just get dumb when they go overboard.
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01-28-2011 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
beast - you're trying too hard right now. Levels only work in moderation, they just get dumb when they go overboard.
Yea sometimes I'm just too bored but they seem to be working on some people so that makes me smile.

But ok I'll wait a little while and come back.

P.S. An extremly well known underground guy told me not say another about some breaking news that could change alot things.
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01-28-2011 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by beastjr
Yea sometimes I'm just too bored but they seem to be working on some people so that makes me smile.

But ok I'll wait a little while and come back.

P.S. An extremly well known underground guy told me not say another about some breaking news that could change alot things.
It semi-works but not as much as you would like, and I am one who appreciates a good gimmick (Donko had a couple and that Fated guy is the champ). In contrast, this Truth guy is dull and one dimensional and always late with my damn coffee!

The problem with your gimmick is that the superficial "secret source" claim has been genuinely made by many riggies, and if you look up tk's posts here and on other forums he has a much more deeply paranoid thing about secret people that he knows (way better than any of your made up stuff). CIA agents are involved I believe, even Lizard People.

The secret source claims always generate "say who the dude is" replies much like if you claimed you could fly people would say "ok, let's see proof."

The trick to a good gimmick though is to go past the superficial and create some real frustration in the responses you generate and again I suggest you search and read FatedtoPretend's posts to see a great example of that (he even got me frustrated early on when I tried to help him).

The thread needs solid gimmicks and trolls as part of it's fun, so do some work and improve how you gimmick/troll in future. You can always get 8 replies from Wiki if you ask what time it is and you spell a word wrong. That's easy trolling, so set the bar higher for yourself and really work on a good troll/gimmick angle in the future when you come back.

Best of luck
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01-28-2011 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
If youd like to talk shop without dealing with a bunch of pompous site promoters, dreamers, idiots and just plain aholes, i think you might enjoy it.
Talk shop? Nobody wants to buy the brand of crazy you're selling buddy.

The site you suggested is good but if you really want to talk shop without being disrupted by facts or logic there's an old lady living under a local bridge with a collander on her head who'd value your theories.
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Most of the posters are in touch with reality, have an open mind, and realize that online poker is not up and up.
Make your mind up. Do you like it because people are open minded or because they believe the same nonsense as you in spite of all evidence to the contrary?

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Your threads wont be closed or banned.
You continue to scaremonger and libel people in this thread and you haven't been banned have you?


How do you even manage to function in the real world when you are this delusional?
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01-28-2011 , 04:55 PM
Monteroy, I see your point with the frustration thing and getting someone to think you really believe there is a conspiricy but I also think there is an art to being obviously joking to some people while others have no clue. Thus I kept saying things like well known underground person. Its kinda like a double negative. Or I would see something is crazy will happen to poker in the future. Well of course eventually something crazy will happen with everything.

Without going back and reading the posts your refering to, which i might do for some laughs, I imagine this guy was full on trying to suck you in. I'm just getting a laugh out of who would respond to someone who is either full blown ****** or just being a ******.

But as one of the great leaders of America would say "I'll be back"
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01-28-2011 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by beastjr
Monteroy, I see your point with the frustration thing and getting someone to think you really believe there is a conspiricy but I also think there is an art to being obviously joking to some people while others have no clue. Thus I kept saying things like well known underground person. Its kinda like a double negative. Or I would see something is crazy will happen to poker in the future. Well of course eventually something crazy will happen with everything.
There are websites which track how the world was supposed to end pretty much every year for the past 100 years, and when big bad 2012 passes by all that will happen is that there will be some 2013 theories.

You may recognize an art and indeed there is an art to it, but many of your posts fit more in the category of "noise" which generate an automated "sounds good, prove it" canned response because most of the people responding do not really care if you are fake or really paranoid in that way.

Getting a response is fine, but really working up the shills or the riggies (you can troll either depending on your mood) does take some skill and for now you are not really adept at it. You have enthusiasm and promise, but your work to date is marginal (no offense, I do appreciate the effort).

There are those who have done a much better job trolling and I would suggest you look them up and see the style and approach they use for the maximum effect.




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Originally Posted by beastjr
Without going back and reading the posts your refering to, which i might do for some laughs, I imagine this guy was full on trying to suck you in. I'm just getting a laugh out of who would respond to someone who is either full blown ****** or just being a ******.

But as one of the great leaders of America would say "I'll be back"
The problem is whether you are a real ****** or a fake ****** if all your character is is a simple ****** then it make no difference as it is ******ed.

Anybody can create a brand new gimmick account, post the stuff you did and get the same reactions you did. The trick is being better than that if you are going to troll.

Here is a fun suggestion. Even though you openly admit to being a fake, just wait a week or so and under this same name post some basic riggie claims. Talk about a couple hands you lost and how the cards seem to run bad at pick your site and add in a bit about how you won a lot at first, then ask if anyone else has ever experienced this.

You will get some genuine riggies to respond and once they do troll them for a while by adding in new layers of claims (say you lose more on your laptop or when your dog is out of your house) and see how far they will go in believing you without any proof.

Some shills will likely give you canned shill responses, and if you toss me a PM at the time I will toss one in as well to help it work, and you can ignore them or make up bad math to drive them nuts in a simple way while you concentrate on your riggie target.

After a couple days do a reveal to the riggies for fun.

Couple weeks later repeat with the shills as a target.


If you are going to troll, then do the job well. Otherwise you are just a mundane trolldonk and we have dudes like Truth and others already in that roll who are still damn slow in getting me my coffee.

Let me know what you think of these ideas.

All the best.
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01-28-2011 , 06:42 PM
Sounds promicing. I'll be thinking of some idees.
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01-28-2011 , 06:53 PM
Excellent, and as you are doing that look over my posts to you to see a good example of how to get someone's attention and move them in a direction you prefer. In this case I chose the supporting your cause role, but I could have easily chosen a response that would have appealed to your angry reaction side or your "lol I leveled you!" side.

This is how you can troll well, when you take someone who originally is an adversary and convert them into an ally then switch them back again at will, which is far more effective than a cliched riggie statement that will get standard replies.

I hope you enjoyed the troll lesson and take this and show us how you can be a real troll in the future.

All the best.
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01-28-2011 , 09:31 PM
For all you people starting to realize something is wrong with these rigged online poker sites, go to youtube.com. Click on"full tilt poker is rigged", or poker stars is rigged. You will find hundreds of interesting videos, along with comments under each of them. Hopefully, this will help the people with brains wondering if something funny is going on, to save your money and stop wasting your time on these rigged up sites.
WARNING: this is not intended for dreamers(WIKI), or site promoters(Monteroy). Also, the stupid and ignorant need not see this either. Wont do you any good.
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01-28-2011 , 10:27 PM
If you enter "pokerstars is sexy" on youtube you can watch how CatGirl Poker Star gets a Coat of Body Paint


youtube is certainly a powerful source of information


Now get me my damn coffee already and get back to work Truthdude.
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01-28-2011 , 10:36 PM
It IS RIGGED!

FTP is crazy, rush is just insane. Can you really flop a set 1/2 the time? LOL
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01-28-2011 , 10:36 PM
Oh great! Where were the nipples?
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01-28-2011 , 10:43 PM
You have a company that can't process DEPOSITS for a couple of months, and yet they keep it going and going... LOL. How can a Casino continue if they can't accept deposits, but can figure out selected withdralws???
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01-28-2011 , 11:01 PM
I played 1 hand of RUSH: Flopped nut str8/ 2 others had JJ / runner runner hrt hrt!

Come on now. We are talking about how its rigged, and the first hand is a 20:1 shot.

I know you guys know how bad it it, but C'mon... really?... LOL
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01-28-2011 , 11:04 PM
Instead of replying to yourself over and over how about you at least answer the other guy's question to you about nipples.

Some of you bad beat whiners can be so damn rude at times.
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01-28-2011 , 11:48 PM
rush pokering! I do dislike YOU Montery.
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01-28-2011 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by peetar69
I played 1 hand of RUSH: Flopped nut str8/ 2 others had JJ / runner runner hrt hrt!

Come on now. We are talking about how its rigged, and the first hand is a 20:1 shot.

I know you guys know how bad it it, but C'mon... really?... LOL
Tell me about it, my first time ever playing and I got dealt pocket queens and by the river had quads.. I mean come on you know they just want me to win a little and keep coming back. So rigged. 5 mins later I bust with a flopped straight vs a turned boat..

Oh wait, I'm sorry your talking about rush poker? That was my first ever hand of live poker..
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01-29-2011 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by syncmaster
Tell me about it, my first time ever playing and I got dealt pocket queens and by the river had quads.. I mean come on you know they just want me to win a little and keep coming back. So rigged. 5 mins later I bust with a flopped straight vs a turned boat..

Oh wait, I'm sorry your talking about rush poker? That was my first ever hand of live poker..
You dreamers are so clever!
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01-29-2011 , 02:33 AM
made almost 3 BI's this afternoon, should have known they'd give it all back to the fish tonight. - 3 BI's in EV, which of course doesn't count **** like guys flopping trips and turning quads, getting 2 outed on the river, and watching a pair+straight flush draw whiff twice.
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