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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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01-29-2011 , 02:40 AM
no its not
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01-29-2011 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rookieDOJatty
made almost 3 BI's this afternoon, should have known they'd give it all back to the fish tonight. - 3 BI's in EV, which of course doesn't count **** like guys flopping trips and turning quads, getting 2 outed on the river, and watching a pair+straight flush draw whiff twice.
3 whole buyins? wow harsh.

i long for the days when i was only 3 buyins under ev.
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01-29-2011 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by comma
3 whole buyins? wow harsh.

i long for the days when i was only 3 buyins under ev.
So does everyone else who plays on these rigged sites. The dreamers and site promoters wont admt it though.
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01-29-2011 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by peetar69
I played 1 hand of RUSH: Flopped nut str8/ 2 others had JJ / runner runner hrt hrt!

Come on now. We are talking about how its rigged, and the first hand is a 20:1 shot.

I know you guys know how bad it it, but C'mon... really?... LOL
Gee, I wonder how often 20:1 happens?
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01-29-2011 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
So does everyone else who plays on these rigged sites. The dreamers and site promoters wont admt it though.
If you continue making exactly the same post over and over again with the same unfounded and unjustified accusations, people are going to start replying with unfounded and unjustified accusations about you to make a point.

Does this sound fair to you or are you going to change the record?
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01-29-2011 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
If you continue making exactly the same post over and over again with the same unfounded and unjustified accusations, people are going to start replying with unfounded and unjustified accusations about you to make a point.

Does this sound fair to you or are you going to change the record?
ok, ok to be fair to you bingo boy (which is what you should be sticking to, bingo games), let me also add the IGNORANT, to included you in the last sentence.
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01-29-2011 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
ok, ok to be fair to you bingo boy (which is what you should be sticking to, bingo games)
HAHAHAHAHA! I see what you did there! You ignored the (admittedly bad) ironic humour in my username and used it literally to suggest I was bad at poker! HAHAHAHA!

For someone called TheTruth...

Spoiler:
...you certainly lie a lot. HAHAHAHAHAHA!




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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
let me also add the IGNORANT, to included you in the last sentence.
You may want to improve your English (amongst other things) before you call people ignorant.
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01-29-2011 , 06:52 PM
TheTruth5 has sex with his mother, father, brother, sister, aunts, uncles, cousins, and grandparents. THANK YOU TheTruth5. I never thought I would be able to enjoy saying such things without any fear of reproval. It has been a glorious moment for me indeed!
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01-29-2011 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5;244655..16
You dreamers are so clever!
You know I'm a dreamer.. But no honestly that was my first hand of live poker, pocket Q's turned into quads.. Harrah's st louis, 3 years ago when I turned 21.

Any way hopefully you don't just throw me into the group of non believers. I don't want to be grouped in with everyone who you think your smarter and better than, the rest of humanity. I am just listening to what my 4th grade teach taught me, you know odds and probability. Don't worry if you missed that class or haven't reached it yet, you can find all this info with a quick google search.
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01-29-2011 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 14cobster
TheTruth5 has sex with his mother, father, brother, sister, aunts, uncles, cousins, and grandparents. THANK YOU TheTruth5. I never thought I would be able to enjoy saying such things without any fear of reproval. It has been a glorious moment for me indeed!
HIDE YOUR KIDS
HIDE YOUR WIFE
AND HIDE YOUR HUSBAND

THE TRUTH IS RAPING EVERYONE UP IN HERE
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01-30-2011 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
HAHAHAHAHA! I see what you did there! You ignored the (admittedly bad) ironic humour in my username and used it literally to suggest I was bad at poker! HAHAHAHA!

For someone called TheTruth...

Spoiler:
...you certainly lie a lot. HAHAHAHAHAHA!






You may want to improve your English (amongst other things) before you call people ignorant.
Actually, you might be very good at poker, as others are. Dont get me wrong. The thing is, because the sites are rigged to eventually take you to zero so you have to rebuy, it makes no difference how good you are. In the long run, you will not come out ahead.
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01-30-2011 , 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JH1
Gee, I wonder how often 20:1 happens?
In riggieworld about 0.1% of the time.
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01-30-2011 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Actually, you might be very good at poker, as others are. Dont get me wrong. The thing is, because the sites are rigged to eventually take you to zero so you have to rebuy, it makes no difference how good you are. In the long run, you will not come out ahead.
So how do you explain all the people who are consistent winners aver many years?

Oh, wait, the site riggers are playing the long game.
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01-30-2011 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Actually, you might be very good at poker, as others are. Dont get me wrong. The thing is, because the sites are rigged to eventually take you to zero so you have to rebuy, it makes no difference how good you are. In the long run, you will not come out ahead.
but what about my garph though
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01-30-2011 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
because the sites are rigged to eventually take you to zero so you have to rebuy, it makes no difference how good you are. In the long run, you will not come out ahead.
I'm sorry for you but it seems highly likely that this doesn't actually happen, unless you are able to enlighten us with some basis for your accusations (note I didn't say proof or evidence, anything but whining would help). It is only 'obvious' to you that this happens because you need it to be true to excuse your inability to win what you would like to.
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01-30-2011 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Actually, you might be very good at poker, as others are. Dont get me wrong. The thing is, because the sites are rigged to eventually take you to zero so you have to rebuy, it makes no difference how good you are. In the long run, you will not come out ahead.
If only there was some way to track long term winners and losers...
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01-30-2011 , 12:23 PM
ok, let me ask a question. First off, which garph are you referring to? Secondly, why dont you dreamers prove to me you have consistently made money. Should be pretty easy. LOL
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01-30-2011 , 12:25 PM
oh, and syncmaster, just because you are inbred, doesnt mean everyone is.
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01-30-2011 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Secondly, why dont you dreamers prove to me you have consistently made money. Should be pretty easy. LOL
Oh, it is.

Extremely easy.

Clue:

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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
If only there was some way to track long term winners and losers...
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01-30-2011 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
why dont you dreamers prove to me you have consistently made money. Should be pretty easy.
State what proof is required.

You have already established that there is no amount of proof that is sufficient for you. There are thousands of winning players who routinely post to 2+2. There is an abundance of tracking websites. What more do you want? Nobody is going to post their tax returns to 2+2.
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01-30-2011 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Nobody is going to post their tax returns to 2+2.
I suspect that even if they did, the IRS would be accused of being in on the conspiracy.
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01-30-2011 , 02:35 PM
Now you wanna talk about a conspiracy! IRS, there's one for ya!

Last edited by LVGambler; 01-30-2011 at 02:36 PM. Reason: lolololol
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01-30-2011 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
ok, let me ask a question. First off, which garph are you referring to? Secondly, why dont you dreamers prove to me you have consistently made money. Should be pretty easy. LOL
Here you go. I even updated the garph for you and changed the settings a little bit. Going by date now instead of # of hands. Yeah it slows down a little bit in recent years due to lesser volume, but I definitely don't see that leveling off thing going on where I can't win money.



So, the next step is to figure out what's wrong with the garph. Is it filtered in some weird way? Well, it's set for all hands, no filters, but I suppose that could be photoshopped. Plus the all in EV line, I mean man it's just way too close to the actual win/loss line, can that be real? I mean I think my games are rigged to run normally or something!

The easiest approach is probably just to write it off as fake or accuse me of working for the pokersites. I'll let you decide.
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01-31-2011 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
In riggieworld about 0.1% of the time.
afaik even 0.1% of the time is still a significant portion of the time:
  • 0.1% of a day is 1.44 minutes.
  • If a NASCAR race takes 5 hours, a second place finisher would have to finish a full 18 seconds behind first place to lose by only 0.1% of the total race time.
  • Someone (and often multiple people) wins the lottery with a 0.0000007% chance every single day.
  • There is a 0.1% chance that you flip a coin and it lands tails 10x in a row.

Life is rigged for those that think unlikely = impossible. It's not looking good for people who's perception of 'unlikely' is skewed on top of that.
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01-31-2011 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Actually, you might be very good at poker, as others are. Dont get me wrong. The thing is, because the sites are rigged to eventually take you to zero so you have to rebuy, it makes no difference how good you are. In the long run, you will not come out ahead.
So what about those of us who never deposited in the first place?
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