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01-16-2011 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Which sites operate outside of a 'national law'?



Where's here?

Germany

It's not illegal in a lot of the world. (Most of the English speaking world, for example.)


It's already regulated and, in some jurisdictions, any winnings are taxed. (Not here, though. )



Have you spent any amount of time trying to improve your game to the point where you can actually consistently win?

8-9 years ago yes, but at that time it was worth the money for me

You clearly enjoy the game so it's a pity that you can't make at least some profit from it.
thats not right...i enjoy games/ gambling. poker was a source of income for me. Now its only a way to kill " cheap" a few hours. For fun i like backgammon more or even slots have more " entertainment value "
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01-16-2011 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 28renton
28,321 posts in this thread and we still don't even know for sure if online poker's rogged or not?!?! C'mon!
If it's rigged to any extent we'll certainly find out pretty quickly.

We're never going to know for certain that it isn't, even if the thread had 28 million posts.

However, despite the fact that there are, apparently, swathes of people who believe it's rigged, not one of them has been able to produce one single shred of evidence, so, it's pretty reasonable to assume that it probably isn't.

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I used Google and found Online Poker Code Crack...worth the purchase?!?!?!??!!?
All gullible fools should make a purchase immediately.
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01-16-2011 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JONATHANM
DOH!! I was hoping for a good 5-10 replies...lol
It doesn't matter how idiotic you make your parody, some genuine rigtard will find a way to come up with a genuine post that is even dafter.

I thought the: "What internets are you on anyway...geez " line was pretty good.
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01-16-2011 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
NOT IN THE EYES OF THE DREAMERS. AND YOU CERTAINLY DONT WANT TO HEAR A B.S. RESPONSE FROM ONE OF THE MANY SITE PROMOTERS ON HERE.
When you are inevitably on the wrong end of an argument or discsussion in real life because of your stupidity, do you just shout insults at people and run off?
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01-16-2011 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
If it's rigged to any extent we'll certainly find out pretty quickly.

We're never going to know for certain that it isn't, even if the thread had 28 million posts.

However, despite the fact that there are, apparently, swathes of people who believe it's rigged, not one of them has been able to produce one single shred of evidence, so, it's pretty reasonable to assume that it probably isn't.



All gullible fools should make a purchase immediately.
Have you made your purchase yet. You certainly fall into this category.
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01-16-2011 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
When you are inevitably on the wrong end of an argument or discsussion in real life because of your stupidity, do you just shout insults at people and run off?
I have a suspicion that 'TheTruth5' is a gimmick account for someone who posts more serious content under another name and is just trying to create a persona that appears a idiotic as possible.

Were I a riggie or 'tard I'd suspect that it was a creation of a poker site employee designed to heap ridicule on other riggies and 'tards.
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01-16-2011 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
When you are inevitably on the wrong end of an argument or discsussion in real life because of your stupidity, do you just shout insults at people and run off?
Didnt run off anywhere. Wasnt really insulting anyone either. Its just annoying how people as stupid as you still believe online poker isnt rigged.
Im on the right side of this futile argument, but at this point there is no reason for discussion so i just threw out a response to Jonathanm, thinking he was serious, my error.
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01-16-2011 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Didnt run off anywhere. Wasnt really insulting anyone either. Its just annoying how people as stupid as you still believe online poker isnt rigged.
Im on the right side of this futile argument, but at this point there is no reason for discussion so i just threw out a response to Jonathanm, thinking he was serious, my error.
The problem with the persona you are creating here (and only someone truly gullible would seriously believe it's real) is that you never say anything remotely intelligent.

You don't try and make a case or defend a position.

You just make wild allegation and tertiary assertions without any sort of back-up.

You have the ignominious distinction of joining a very special group of über rigrtards. One which includes such 'luminaries' as banonlinepoker.

You haven't even given Monty enough to go on to produce one of his psychological assessments.
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01-16-2011 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
The problem with the persona you are creating here (and only someone truly gullible would seriously believe it's real) is that you never say anything remotely intelligent.

You don't try and make a case or defend a position.

You just make wild allegation and tertiary assertions without any sort of back-up.

You have the ignominious distinction of joining a very special group of über rigrtards. One which includes such 'luminaries' as banonlinepoker.

You haven't even given Monty enough to go on to produce one of his psychological assessments.
No need to keep going back and forth with you since your ignorance is unmatched, along with severe mental problems. Get some help, im really starting to feel sorry for you.
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01-16-2011 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
Didnt run off anywhere. Wasnt really insulting anyone either. Its just annoying how people as stupid as you still believe online poker isnt rigged.
Im on the right side of this futile argument, but at this point there is no reason for discussion so i just threw out a response to Jonathanm, thinking he was serious, my error.
Perhaps you could provide some justification for describing the people who disagree with you as stupid? I called you stupid because you make whole posts in capitals and almost everything you have said is completely devoid of any reasoning whatsoever.

OR YOU CAN KEEP CALLING PEOPLE DREAMERS AND SITE PROMOTERS AND HOPE THAT NOBODY NOTICES YOU DO THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE UNABLE TO JUSTIFY ANY OF YOUR LIES.
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01-16-2011 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTruth5
No need to keep going back and forth with you since your ignorance is unmatched, along with severe mental problems. Get some help, im really starting to feel sorry for you.
Yeah, right.
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01-16-2011 , 01:51 PM
Would someone really leave the pokerworld if there is a proof of a rigged deck ?

Guess winning players still will stay.

Myself at sample is 100% sure that FT rush games are not random, but its the only game that i play a few hours.
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01-16-2011 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by solucky
Would someone really leave the pokerworld if there is a proof of a rigged deck ?
If it were proven that any site rigged the deck I'm pretty sure all the losing players that found out about it would leave.

That would then make a lot of the 'just about' winning players into losers who would leave.

Then there would be winning players who refuse to play on a known dishonest site (see AP/UB).

I would imagine the site would pretty much collapse and never fully recover even if they fixed the problem.

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Myself at sample is 100% sure that FT rush games are not random
No comment.
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01-16-2011 , 06:22 PM
poker is rigged, the houses control where the profit comes and i tested it already . . . i used to have 20k bankrol in a x house and i did a test . . i played a session bad on purpsoe lost 5k . . . next day i played againn normal in a lower leel and i did an unreal session won 2k ( something out of this unvierse sucked out all the hands). What is shows ? its obvious, they didnt want me to go broke =)
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01-16-2011 , 06:59 PM
So Lucky Quote:
Myself at sample is 100% sure that FT rush games are not random

Wiki:
No comment.

xenophobia
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01-16-2011 , 07:12 PM


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This is my graph of Apollo rush poker, very soft there ( for me at least ) and I can say this is rigged yes, ftp is always dealing me the best hands haha ( just a small sample )
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01-16-2011 , 09:37 PM
Well, I guess that makes up for how bad they rigged it against you playing 600NL HU. Although actually you did a decent job sucking out when you shoved pre, so that was probably rigged for you too.
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01-16-2011 , 10:55 PM
Do you guys really believe these sites dont set the deck....come on do u really think its random....Do u really think its impossible to load software to make it look good & even out at some point ...Have u ever seen this much BS live ...Now be honest ... Can u really say u are 100 % sure they dont rig it to keep players there....All im asking is ...do u really think the riggies dont have a point?....Come on guys its an overses site that we all play on
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01-16-2011 , 10:57 PM
In b4 i get super agro FLAMED!
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01-16-2011 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by doofymru
poker is rigged, the houses control where the profit comes and i tested it already . . . i used to have 20k bankrol in a x house and i did a test . . i played a session bad on purpsoe lost 5k . . . next day i played againn normal in a lower leel and i did an unreal session won 2k ( something out of this unvierse sucked out all the hands). What is shows ? its obvious, they didnt want me to go broke =)
Wished that was me ...they want me broke because i bitch to much!
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01-16-2011 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joker15801
Do you guys really believe these sites dont set the deck....come on do u really think its random....Do u really think its impossible to load software to make it look good & even out at some point ...Have u ever seen this much BS live ...Now be honest ... Can u really say u are 100 % sure they dont rig it to keep players there....All im asking is ...do u really think the riggies dont have a point?....Come on guys its an overses site that we all play on
I never thought of it like that. I will withdraw all my money posthaste, ty.
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01-17-2011 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by joker15801
Come on guys its an overses site that we all play on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia
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01-17-2011 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Well, given that poster's English, I hope he's foreign. Sadly, probably not.
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01-17-2011 , 01:38 AM
if you people spent your time studying poker instead of posting about how its rigged you might actually improve, start winning, and see that poker isn't rigged at all.

1,436 posters think it's rigged = 1,436 loosing players
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01-17-2011 , 02:55 AM
I know online poker is rigged and I am thousands in the plus online. Offline much more than that because offline its not rigged where I play.

Acworth play in tournaments and take note of how big stacks swallow short stacks as the tourney progresses, take note of the all in's of the short stack. Note the hands and when you get about 10,000 late tourney hands then analyze it. Say after 2/3 of the field is eliminated, start taking data then. You will quit for good unless you are an addict, which 95% of the people online are.

Or just join a turbo double or nothing on stars and see this in action from the get go. Its beyond questionable or suspect. It's blatantly rigged. The big stacks win at an abnormal rate vs short stacks, over the long run.
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