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11-09-2022 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by threebanger
It's repetitive but we have to update the thread with accurate info from time to time. First, background, I am a "charter" GP player from the earliest days of 2017 and have played virtually every day the last few years and missed only a few periods of time prior to that due to work. I have mailed what I consider very modest amounts of envelopes occasionally in the last 5 years.

Until this current backlog, the average time was around 4 weeks. Sometimes a little more or less. No matter how long the wait, I have eventually received 100% of requests (to my knowledge) and have been respectful of the process and completed much more than the minimum playthrough. I am sure that I also have generated far more rake than any free sweeps I have received, including the daily login.

Based on these experiences, it is my theory that in this terrible economy, freeloaders flooded the company with requests, which created the delay and also necessitated the recent step of adding the postal request code. This happened previously in 2020 when Covid lockdowns created a class of professional home-bound envelope mailers. There was about a 6-8 week delay then, but less than now.

So I would advise anyone to be patient, they will credit you eventually, and to also stop treating this like they owe you something. The free sweeps are a privilege born out of the sweepstakes process, they are not your birthright. I don't care what your interpretation of sweepstakes law may be. Anyone sending over 200 envelopes every month is asking to be banned, period, and this is also born out of past observations. Good luck.
I respectfully disagree with your last statement. I truly believe, they do not care how many you mail in. It is the people that hit and run that have problems. If you are keeping tables open, generating rake and not cashing out very many sweeps coins, it makes no sense to ban someone that is helping your bottom line.
11-09-2022 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sc106
I am at about 3 months since i mailed my first sweeps requests. If my requests were deemed ineligible for whatever reason they would at least tell me they were denied right?
12 weeks seems to be on par with a lot of reports right now. I think you just need to wait longer. If you never got any after the next 1-2 credit dates, I'd inquire.
11-09-2022 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by steamboatin
I respectfully disagree with your last statement. I truly believe, they do not care how many you mail in. It is the people that hit and run that have problems. If you are keeping tables open, generating rake and not cashing out very many sweeps coins, it makes no sense to ban someone that is helping your bottom line.
I chose something of an arbitrary number but based on past observations. I would bet the number of serious players who also send 200+ envelopes per month is very small compared to the grifters. I consider myself a "serious rec" and have never approached anywhere close to that figure, and have also never had any problems other than having to wait when they get backed up. And I very frequently cash out (not a brag). Maybe I should start sending 200 or more, I am sure I currently generate that much in rake, not to mention easily hitting the playthrough. But I also respect my personal time and the process, and for whatever reason I wouldn't feel right doing so.

But I very much agree about the hit and run and I would include people who technically meet the playthrough but nothing else, then cash out. Even if they feel like the sweeps rules give them license to do so.
11-09-2022 , 09:37 PM
No offense, but why is it that all of the "serious players, recs" act like they don't need to or want to participate in the mailers?? I've been playing almost daily for going on 20 years...Is everyone's Ego just too big or what's the problem? If you're that good at poker I would have to imagine that you have a training site setup or something other than playing on a Sweeps Coins site...I am happy to see all of you come out of the woodwork to state information and knowledge on this issue...And to the individual that says that we aren't entitled to the Sweeps Coins from the mailers...You are 1,000% incorrect. Global Poker doesn't exist without this offering being available to anyone and everyone...Laws are Laws...I don't know how else to elaborate on this without becoming redundant. Some of you think that the letter writers are taking advantage of Global...well it looks as if Global is currently taking advantage of its customers...we could all argue until we're blue in the face...I just want my letters credited so that I can never write another one and never post on here again to be honest...take care everyone!
11-09-2022 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GamblingSavant
No offense, but why is it that all of the "serious players, recs" act like they don't need to or want to participate in the mailers?? I've been playing almost daily for going on 20 years...Is everyone's Ego just too big or what's the problem? If you're that good at poker I would have to imagine that you have a training site setup or something other than playing on a Sweeps Coins site...I am happy to see all of you come out of the woodwork to state information and knowledge on this issue...And to the individual that says that we aren't entitled to the Sweeps Coins from the mailers...You are 1,000% incorrect. Global Poker doesn't exist without this offering being available to anyone and everyone...Laws are Laws...I don't know how else to elaborate on this without becoming redundant. Some of you think that the letter writers are taking advantage of Global...well it looks as if Global is currently taking advantage of its customers...we could all argue until we're blue in the face...I just want my letters credited so that I can never write another one and never post on here again to be honest...take care everyone!
If directed at me, I literally stated several times that I do participate. And out of the woodwork is a stretch, been on this site for 15 years but go on. If you don't want input from a loyal GPer no worries.
11-09-2022 , 10:38 PM
No, my point is that everyone wants to act like they don't care about if and when they receive their mailer SCs...most people do care. It turns me off when I see a regular Global player act like they wouldn't dare send in a letter since they are already a winning player...Its all ego, which is to be expected by poker players...myself included. I was actually excited for these mailers for some reason, but deep down knew it was too good to be true. I have no beef with anyone on here and I respect the fact that you've been on here for 15 years...that's cool. I just want Global to be fair, just like I want a fair poker game...should be easy enough to satisfy both of those requests...Lastly, the clarify...Being a winning poker player or not and sending in Sweeps Coins mailer have absolutely nothing to do with each other...
11-09-2022 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GamblingSavant
No, my point is that everyone wants to act like they don't care about if and when they receive their mailer SCs...most people do care. It turns me off when I see a regular Global player act like they wouldn't dare send in a letter since they are already a winning player...Its all ego, which is to be expected by poker players...myself included. I was actually excited for these mailers for some reason, but deep down knew it was too good to be true. I have no beef with anyone on here and I respect the fact that you've been on here for 15 years...that's cool. I just want Global to be fair, just like I want a fair poker game...should be easy enough to satisfy both of those requests...Lastly, the clarify...Being a winning poker player or not and sending in Sweeps Coins mailer have absolutely nothing to do with each other...
I agree 100000% Global needs to honor their word. I've often had complaints about the lack of attention to detail and when they dropped PayPal under some guise of "more" options for players.

As you referenced, the SC is one of the ways they stay legal in the US. They need to be a little, or a lot, more timely. It's not fair to make players wait weeks and weeks for their SC. Most are very low bankroll players and they should be prioritized, in this regard.

Two months ago, Global claimed I hadn't logged in for months and seized the 600 I had sitting there. I rarely ever play on Global. I have an alert set for the 1st of every month to login and play a cpl orbits. They pretty much gave me the cold shoulder. I sent them proof and a list of every AG address in the US. It was restored in less than an hour.

Don't give Global, or any sire, the benefit of the doubt. With that said, I seriously doubt Global has any desire to steal or cheat players. I do think their business acumen is a bit weak.
11-09-2022 , 11:34 PM
Touche!
11-10-2022 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GamblingSavant
No, my point is that everyone wants to act like they don't care about if and when they receive their mailer SCs...most people do care. It turns me off when I see a regular Global player act like they wouldn't dare send in a letter since they are already a winning player...Its all ego, which is to be expected by poker players...myself included. I was actually excited for these mailers for some reason, but deep down knew it was too good to be true. I have no beef with anyone on here and I respect the fact that you've been on here for 15 years...that's cool. I just want Global to be fair, just like I want a fair poker game...should be easy enough to satisfy both of those requests...Lastly, the clarify...Being a winning poker player or not and sending in Sweeps Coins mailer have absolutely nothing to do with each other...
I don't care when I receive credits. I do care if I receive credits. I am not looking to cash out their sweeps coins, I am building a bankroll so I can keep playing and improve my game so 6 weeks, 12 weeks, 3 months, doesn't matter. Sooner would be nicer but as long as they get here eventually, I'm good.
11-10-2022 , 10:12 AM
I understand what you're saying, but I'm a player who has never sent in a letter until recently...Considering I have never been credited one SC for a letter, I don't even know if they are going to accept my letters. We are in a different situation because you know that yours are coming at some point. For me it feels as though I just spent all of that time and money for absolutely nothing as I approach the three month timeframe....If I knew that my letter were going to get credited in the future, I would have no worries and would continue to write a few here and there...
11-10-2022 , 10:18 AM
Dear Brother Gambling Savant, can you explain how you have already admitted you think sending envelopes is -EV, yet are confused why winning players don't send envelopes?

You said you never meant that millionaires would write the envelopes themselves, only that they would accept $1,000 a month to free-roll. But nobody is being offered a $1,000 a month free roll. They're being offered $5 - postage, envelope, index card, and the value of the time it takes to write the envelopes.

I already did the math for you it's simple, if you win around $50/hr playing (or doing anything else,) not writing envelopes because you can make more money doing other things isn't turning down free money, it's making the most money possible with your limited time.
11-10-2022 , 01:15 PM
You're bunching random comments together from many different responses of mine...taken out of context. I'm not going to argue since I know what type of follow up response I'm going to get from you. From what I have gathered, the envelopers can and do "make" around $40-$50 per hour. Not a bad way to cushion your bankroll and play with house money...not every pro player wants to play all day...This is a promotion through Global Poker, just like players take advantge of promotions held by the Wynn, MGM, Bellagio, Caesars, Venetian, etc....Global Poker offers this to their customers and they are liable to credit the accounts with SC assuming all of their rules have been followed properly...Not everything in life is perfect -EV or +EV...Some of us might feel like sending off 4-50 envelopes from time to time...who cares..and why not...anyone on the planet can call themselves a professional poker player...not an impressive title to be honest and I myself have play semi pro and pro for the last 20 years....I don't run around telling anyone that...Moral of the strory...there isn't one...to each, his own...but Global needs to credit every single envelope considering that's the ONLY reason that they are able to operate as a business.
11-11-2022 , 06:01 PM
I'm presently at 13 weeks. I wrote to customer service this week and they replied acknowledging they had received my envelopes and expect to process them in 2-3 weeks. My 1st go at this and am curious how it will turn out.
11-11-2022 , 11:08 PM
I'm in a very similar situation, but that's awesome to hear that there is some progression with this process. Thanks for the update! I will be at 11 weeks this coming Tuesday.
11-11-2022 , 11:09 PM
This is my first time as well...
11-14-2022 , 02:25 PM
They have always been a bit slow on crediting the envelopes but lately it just seems to have slowed to a crawl. Over the summer, I was getting two batches credited a month. I even got a pretty decent sized one at the end of August. Then, it looks like they only started doing one batch a month in September. That is when they updated the rules to include the unique postal number. Well, in September I got zero credited at the batch they did. I had some that I had sent out in plenty of time for that but none credited. Then, on October 12, I got two envelopes credited. I definitely had more than two that I had sent out in time to be credited on that date. Now, here I am over a month later and with no new batches credited. I trust that they will approved them eventually but the time factor really is relevant. I understand Steamboatin's point about being patient because it will come but at what point is it too long?
11-14-2022 , 03:34 PM
I agree...everyone is going to have a different opinion and experience with this, but I've never been credited ever and have been waiting for 11 weeks tomorrow. It's just kind of a slap in the face as far as I'm concerned. Individuals on here want to act like this should be viewed as a gift and that they don't have to give anyone anything...that's 100% not true. If you follow all of the rules per their agreement...they are obligated to credit your account per the law that has allowed them to be considered a law abiding business in the first place. I don't get it....I guess being patient is a subjective period of time, but this is ridiculous in my opinion.
11-14-2022 , 09:01 PM
Any updates boys?
11-15-2022 , 09:34 AM
Update...11 weeks today and nothing...pretty cool!
11-15-2022 , 11:52 AM
I was sending a handful each week for a while. Like 5 a week sometimes 10 if I missed a week or two, nothing huge. I track when I send each batch out, how many, and when I get approved. I have 66 that I have sent out that have not yet been approved. The most recent I sent out was October 18 when I sent just 1. If we use a FIFO (First in first out) approach to figuring out which ones have been approved and which ones are still waiting, that would mean I still have 10 from July 22 that I am waiting on. Nearly four months wait time on those and counting.
11-15-2022 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GamblingSavant
Update...11 weeks today and nothing...pretty cool!
The fact that you've waited that long isn't real notable. Consensus is that they are at least 3 months behind on envelopes for everyone.

What does seem unusual is they are around 35 days and counting since the last credits. As others have noted, they averaged around 2-3 weeks for a very long time.
11-15-2022 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by threebanger
The fact that you've waited that long isn't real notable. Consensus is that they are at least 3 months behind on envelopes for everyone.

What does seem unusual is they are around 35 days and counting since the last credits. As others have noted, they averaged around 2-3 weeks for a very long time.
Yep. It makes me wonder if they aren't hurting financially as a business. We might all have to move over to ACR or Ignition.
11-15-2022 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by biggwoods
Yep. It makes me wonder if they aren't hurting financially as a business. We might all have to move over to ACR or Ignition.
lol, they arent.
11-15-2022 , 01:57 PM
I don't know, I suppose the public financials still look solid. But as with FTX, you never know what is going on behind the scenes until it's too late. I also think speculation to that effect is kinda irrelevant. We all play online poker in the US, so this uncertainty comes with the territory.

If tomorrow you got $5k in envelope credits, or they shut down the site and ran off with all player funds, neither one of those would surprise me.
11-16-2022 , 04:48 AM
Yeah I’m going on 14 weeks… I was able to get a hold of them today via email tho and they did state that they have received them and they will be credited in the next batch.

      
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