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***Prize Redemption/Account Verification thread*** ***Prize Redemption/Account Verification thread***

05-30-2018 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ship
cliffs at the bottom



i've been exchanging emails (probably 10+ now) since may 14th with globalpoker. i finally successfully made a deposit (which took about 4 weeks to get processed, also) on sunday may the 13th. i played 2 tournaments that day, winning one of rattlesnake open events that day for just over 5k. they did not credit my account with the 5.2k until the afternoon of may 15th. upon receiving the congratulatory email on may 14th, i immediately responded by sending in a copy of my most recent internet/cable utility bill, in addition to a copy of my passport in order to speed up the account verification process. they respond, TWICE, telling me that they had received my documents and would be processing them and putting them into my file.

a week passes.

the main event day for the RSO comes up, and they cancel all their tournaments (lol guess they've been actively monitoring the WPN debacle, figuring out how to employ a similar strategy) i requested a cash out on that day since i couldn't play anything i wanted to.


i send a follow up email 4 days later when i have received no word and no money. they respond saying they have a different address on file than what my statements say. which doesn't make much sense to me, but i sign in to see if perhaps this was an error on my part and i put my last apartment address in (was there for ~2 years, moved a matter of months ago, some random accounts like netflix etc probably still registered to my old apartment even.) however, you are not able to see any of that information nor are you able to edit it via the global poker website or software.

lame.

even tho this discrepancy has not yet been identified, i preemptively decide to send an email to them , just in case the above took place which i'm not even able to check, explaining how this is my correct address and that if there is a discrepancy in my profile, one that i am unable to edit or adjust, that i need for them to change it to the correct and current one.


what is additionally strange is, in my congratulatory email from may 14th, they asked for my mailing address in order to send me a hat and shirt and a cool little rattlesnake trophy / statue.

obviously i input the current address, because that's whre i live, and i have received the trophy and the shirt and the hat.


so why are they, ONLY AFTER I REQUEST A CASH OUT, now saying that they have some 'different address' on file with my account, which i cannot check to confirm or deny, yet when they asked where to mail the trophy this same issue and discrepancy was nowhere to be found or heard of.


so i send in ANOTHER bill, this time a copy of my most recent bank statement. i obviously redact the inconsequential personal info like my account number as well as my balance and transaction history. because this statement is merely required to provide and verify proof of my address, the rest of the info is unecessary.


they actually have the audacity to respond via email saying they cannot accept this bank statement because i have "tampered with it" (black out your account number, black out your balance history, and they will imply you've somehow created a fake address or something for the rest of hte statement)

NOW THEY'RE DEMANDING A FULL COPY OF MY BANK STATEMENT "WITH AT LEAST 80% OF THE DOCCUMENT VISIBLE"


so, sending in a bank statement that has ~5% of the private personal information blocked out, and they will say that it doesn't fall under their requirement of 80% of the document being legible


they are now refusing to send payment . they want a copy of my bank statement. this is obviously unacceptable, they have NO RIGHT to my bank statement as i do not use it for anything to do with their network. they use paypal. they wont let me deposit with my bank card and wont process a cash out to my bank account, so why do they demand a full copy of my bank statement?

this statement is only needed to verify my proof of address. i have already sent them a copy of my spectrum (formerly time warner) internet / cable bill from april 29th. bank statements from may 7th. they literally have two separate under-a-month-old bills, from two entirely different entities, BOTH of which are corroborating my story about "this is wehre i live, change my account info if it says otherwise"




have been trying to get my cash for almost 2 weeks and have been trying to get verified for a little over 2 months.


they are disregarding multiple legitimate documents i've sent and ignored my loose threats about posting my remarkably negative experience on twoplustwo. i dont much like making a post like this, it gets me upset and i'm stressed out as it is, but these types of things MUST be made visible to the community in order to at least in part hold the websites accountable.


since 2007, i have played on sportsbook fulltilt pokerstars cake juicy states carbon poker lock poker rpm poker blackchip poker pokerstars.IT, ipoker, party poker, 888, wsop.com , ignition/ bovada, americas card room like lol u fkn name it i've played on it in the last 10 years if they've had more than 1k people online.

have never experienced anything like this.







CLIFFS:

beware of winning if you want your cash in a timely fashion / ever.

I’ve had the same problem as OP. I understand a lot of people are cashing out here successfully but what are the amounts? I didn’t want to post this initially because I do see a lot of successful cash outs but now that I do see a large 5K cashout being stonewalled and I fear this company may payout the small amounts but won’t pay or will use illegal or unethical tactics for large amounts.

Tried to cash out 15K. Sent in my documents 5x over the course of a month. No response. After a month of not hearing a word back I decided to file a billing dispute. I had to cover myself. I made a large deposit (5K) and the 30 days to dispute the charge was nearing (I understand it can be more than 30 days but within 30 days they tend to side with the consumer more).

Only after I file a dispute do they email me saying they never received anything via email from my registered email address and to send again. I email them pictures from gmail that clearly show the date, send and from address as being all correct as well as attachments (and sizes under 5mb). They then reply that they received the emails but they had no attachments. Please email again.

I ask them to answer two simple questions first so I can trust them and cancel my dispute:

1) If you received an email from me saying here are the docs you requested and there are no docs, no attachments, why did you not let me know in a timely manner? You are OBLIGATED to let me know so that we’re can start to fix the problem or I have no idea that you didn’t get it. Their answer was “we just let you know and it’s been documented for PayPal.” Sure, one month after I first sent in the documents.

2) Why do you keep on insisting I send the files by email? According to YOU, it didn’t work FIVE TIMES PREVIOUSLY. Why do you think it will work now? I have suggested numerous times that we get to the bottom of this by having your IT staff check your mail servers, having me upload via a web page, FB messenger, Skype, Twitter DM, etc... but all every CSR says is to just email back with documents. Their answer: We are sorry, just email your documents and we will fix it. Face palm. Nobody even suggested sending to a diff email address or from a diff email address.

I also asked them to show me proof that my emails were blank, it took me less than five minutes to find my emails to you and take screenshots, can’t you do the same for me? Their answer: we’re sorry, just send your documents via email.

Now this supposedly legal and honest company is trying to keep all my money. The money I won and my PayPal deposit. they claim to PayPal they fullfilled all services and I “played through all gold coins” which is a total lie because I never touched the gold coins and I have 15K plus sweeps in my account. So what did I play through? I countered to PayPal that they did not pay out the sweepstakes prizes which is their primary function, dispute still pending.

I had to make a decision based on the facts I had on hand. They never responded to me until I filed a dispute. I asked them to answer my simple questions and they failed to give me honest or satisfactory answers. So do I cancel my dispute and just TRUST them that they will pay me? Or do I feel like they have tried to deceive me every step until now? Do I protect myself and my deposit or do I trust a company that has obviously shown me it operates under bad faith. Look, if you don’t respond to one email without an attachment (as they claim, my gmail proves otherwise) I can forgive. It’s a mistake. When it’s FIVE emails, that shows a pattern of willful deciept.

When I applied for a passport renewal they sent it back ASAP and indicated that the USPS in either processing or delivery mangled the envelope so my picture was unusable. I promptly sent it back with pictures via FedEx with my picture between cardboard so it wouldn’t bend. Imagine if the passport agency didn’t send it back telling me the picture got messed up? I would have been waiting until a week before my trip and then it’s too late. Now what if I sent it in five times and still no response?

Anyway...that’s my experience FWIW. I’m sure a lot of you have had good experiences. I know it’s hard to please every customer but you, global Poker, have some serious flaws in your internal processes that need to be fixed. I really do hope you are an honest company and I was just some anomaly that fell through the cracks. A lot of people on here enjoy your site. However, your relationship with me is over and unrepairable. Especially now that you are trying to keep both my deposit and not pay me out.

Last edited by roynaldo; 05-30-2018 at 04:27 PM. Reason: Quote wrong post
05-30-2018 , 04:33 PM
Personally, I took off peanuts, just under $4K. I do know someone that has taken off 6 figures, 100%.

Every online site has horrid customer service, my Global experience was very smooth, but that was some time ago before they exploded in growth. PS took three weeks to respond to me and it was requesting I resubmit my initial issue. They all suck.

PayPal is the Antichrist, but, they are pretty thorough and sympathetic to the end user. If you drop the dispute and trust Global to finish it up, the reality is you will be fine. If not, you can come tact PayPal again, send them copies of the emails you got from Global that it was being rectified and they never finished up. You believe they did it just to extend past the 30 wait period and it is fraudulent. PayPal will jerk you around for a bit requesting more docs/statements, but will refund you eventually. Has to be a couple dozen people that posted complaints with not getting verified/paid and GlobalPokerJoey seems to have followed up personally. Can't guarantee it, but I don't think anyone that bitched about getting paid did not end up getting paid.

FWIW, their 6 month non-certified audit stated they had over $19 million in cash, half in bank and half on PayPal. Anything can happen, but I would think you are pretty certain in getting paid.
05-30-2018 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Personally, I took off peanuts, just under $4K. I do know someone that has taken off 6 figures, 100%.

Every online site has horrid customer service, my Global experience was very smooth, but that was some time ago before they exploded in growth. PS took three weeks to respond to me and it was requesting I resubmit my initial issue. They all suck.

PayPal is the Antichrist, but, they are pretty thorough and sympathetic to the end user. If you drop the dispute and trust Global to finish it up, the reality is you will be fine. If not, you can come tact PayPal again, send them copies of the emails you got from Global that it was being rectified and they never finished up. You believe they did it just to extend past the 30 wait period and it is fraudulent. PayPal will jerk you around for a bit requesting more docs/statements, but will refund you eventually. Has to be a couple dozen people that posted complaints with not getting verified/paid and GlobalPokerJoey seems to have followed up personally. Can't guarantee it, but I don't think anyone that bitched about getting paid did not end up getting paid.

FWIW, their 6 month non-certified audit stated they had over $19 million in cash, half in bank and half on PayPal. Anything can happen, but I would think you are pretty certain in getting paid.
I can understand what you are saying but I am of the opinion that you should not have to butch about getting paid to actually get paid. At least Not from a “legal” company operating through PayPal. I heard from friends that global was legit and they cashed out. that’s why I made a big deposit. I’m sort of over it at this point. I’m pretty sure I’ll get my money back from PayPal eventually.

It’s like yelp, heard a lot of good reviews about the restaurant, but when I went there the food and service was crap. I hope it was a one time deal and everyone else gets good food but I’m never going back.

Good luck at the tables.
05-30-2018 , 05:02 PM
Cashout initiated 5/30 12:15am
Approved 5/30 2:30am

Awaiting money in PP
05-30-2018 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by waterb
Cashout initiated 5/30 12:15am

Approved 5/30 2:30am



Awaiting money in PP


I’m over a week and a half now without approval. Maybe they think I’m a bot.


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05-30-2018 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
I’m over a week and a half now without approval. Maybe they think I’m a bot.


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Just sent you a PM
05-30-2018 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalPoker_Joey
Just sent you a PM


Thanks Joey. Would say my case is an outlier and assuming my money comes global handled my situation how I would expect/want an online poker site to handle it.


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05-30-2018 , 09:05 PM
Hi Roynaldo,

If you are still having issues please send me a PM with your username and registered email address and I will look into this for you.
05-30-2018 , 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waterb
Cashout initiated 5/30 12:15am
Approved 5/30 2:30am

Awaiting money in PP

Recieved in PP 5/30 7:00 PM

A+ Global
05-31-2018 , 12:52 AM
how is this legal?
05-31-2018 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
how is this legal?
legit question?
05-31-2018 , 01:20 PM
Requested cashout yesterday evening.
Money in Paypal this afternoon.
05-31-2018 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chexrr
Requested cashout yesterday evening.
Money in Paypal this afternoon.
Nice! Although it's weird how some players have been paid so quickly, and others haven't. I wonder if there is a reason, or if it's random.
05-31-2018 , 03:02 PM
I definitely think they might flag larger withdrawals.

I w/d 4k and it went through quickly, and I've had other 2-3kish type w/ds and they've all been fine. I bet when you try to w/d over a certain amount it automatically gets flagged.
05-31-2018 , 04:02 PM
Requested a $1300 Cashout today around 1230pm

Got an email saying I needed to verify my documents. Sent in ASAP. Will update when paid.
05-31-2018 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalPoker_Joey
I don't think you have enough posts to send a PM but if you don't mind posting your username here I will look into it for you.
Hey Joey,

it's torment44.

Still can't get through and tried pretty much everything now.
05-31-2018 , 10:58 PM
Payment received within 12 hours of approval.
06-01-2018 , 08:55 AM
Joey,

Can you please explain why your company sends PayPal fake shipment tracking info when a player files a dispute with your company? You’re partners with PayPal man! No need to be making things up to defend a dispute! The people need answers!



Dear xxxxxxx,

Your seller has provided shipment tracking information in response to your claim. We used the shipping company's online tracking service and found that it confirms delivery of the merchandise. As a result, this case has been closed.

Transaction Details

Case number: xxxxxxx

Seller's name: VGW Holdings Limited

Seller's email: payment@globalpoker.com

Seller's transaction ID: xxxxxxxxx

Transaction date: xxxx, 2018

Transaction amount: -$xxxxx USD

Your transaction ID: xxxxxxxx

To learn how we review and resolve claims, you can view the PayPal User Agreement, which you accepted when you created your PayPal account. Simply click Legal at the bottom of any PayPal page.

Please note: Records of all cases are kept in the Resolution Center for your convenience.

Sincerely,

PayPal
06-01-2018 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
Joey,

Can you please explain why your company sends PayPal fake shipment tracking info when a player files a dispute with your company? You’re partners with PayPal man! No need to be making things up to defend a dispute! The people need answers!



Dear xxxxxxx,

Your seller has provided shipment tracking information in response to your claim. We used the shipping company's online tracking service and found that it confirms delivery of the merchandise. As a result, this case has been closed.

Transaction Details

Case number: xxxxxxx

Seller's name: VGW Holdings Limited

Seller's email: payment@globalpoker.com

Seller's transaction ID: xxxxxxxxx

Transaction date: xxxx, 2018

Transaction amount: -$xxxxx USD

Your transaction ID: xxxxxxxx

To learn how we review and resolve claims, you can view the PayPal User Agreement, which you accepted when you created your PayPal account. Simply click Legal at the bottom of any PayPal page.

Please note: Records of all cases are kept in the Resolution Center for your convenience.

Sincerely,

PayPal
What is fake? Someone purchases gold coins, there is a transaction ID. The coins get delivered to the buyers account. This should all be pretty obvious or is Global stating something different? How else would the company show they delivered the gold coins to someone's account?
06-01-2018 , 10:07 AM
Agree with a dewd here, don’t see how they are doing anything wrong with this.


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06-01-2018 , 11:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by a dewd
What is fake? Someone purchases gold coins, there is a transaction ID. The coins get delivered to the buyers account. This should all be pretty obvious or is Global stating something different? How else would the company show they delivered the gold coins to someone's account?
Read it again. PayPal is stating Global provided shipping tracking numbers and it was physically delivered. They confirmed that checked the shipping companies website to confirm it was delivered. Essentially Global is creating big fake shipping tracking #’s and sending them as counter claims to win disputes.

“Your seller has provided shipment tracking information in response to your claim. We used the shipping company's online tracking service and found that it confirms delivery of the merchandise. ”
06-01-2018 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
Read it again. PayPal is stating Global provided shipping tracking numbers and it was physically delivered. They confirmed that checked the shipping companies website to confirm it was delivered. Essentially Global is creating big fake shipping tracking #’s and sending them as counter claims to win disputes.

“Your seller has provided shipment tracking information in response to your claim. We used the shipping company's online tracking service and found that it confirms delivery of the merchandise. ”
No place does it say a physical delivery was made. There would be credit made to the buyer's account.

Also, that is a form letter from PayPal. It has nothing to do with anything Global related. It's the exact same template used by PayPal universally.
06-01-2018 , 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by a dewd
No place does it say a physical delivery was made. There would be credit made to the buyer's account.

Also, that is a form letter from PayPal. It has nothing to do with anything Global related. It's the exact same template used by PayPal universally.
You don't send shipment tracking for digital goods. In fact, if you look at PayPal T&C, they don't cover digital goods and state that in responses. There is a clear difference and their responses state that.

You're naive if you think they're on the up and up. It's likely the reason today that Global announced a new payment provider.... trouble in old paradise.

Last edited by StaYSMacKed; 06-01-2018 at 12:58 PM.
06-01-2018 , 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
You don't send shipment tracking for digital goods. In fact, if you look at PayPal T&C, they don't cover digital goods and state that in responses. There is a clear difference and their responses state that.

You're naive if you think they're on the up and up. It's likely the reason today that Global announced a new payment provider.... trouble in old paradise.
Huh, cause...

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mp...ents-agreement

seems to discuss digital goods in detail. What it does say is there is no Seller's Protection Program for digital goods. That does not negate the fact that if someone used their PayPal account that a seller, say we hosting provider, is forced to provide free services/content. If they can prove they delivered it, then the PayPal charge sticks. This does not include credit card charge backs, just the PayPal monies.

They've been looking to add other methods of payment to their cashier for months. I was talking to them about creating a crypto wallet. I gave that up when it was just going in circles.

What is naive is to think that somehow PayPal is not 100% away of the business/transactions of a client with over 9 million in their PayPal account.
06-01-2018 , 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StaYSMacKed
Read it again. PayPal is stating Global provided shipping tracking numbers and it was physically delivered. They confirmed that checked the shipping companies website to confirm it was delivered. Essentially Global is creating big fake shipping tracking #’s and sending them as counter claims to win disputes.

“Your seller has provided shipment tracking information in response to your claim. We used the shipping company's online tracking service and found that it confirms delivery of the merchandise. ”
Exactly what dispute do you have with purchases made at Global Poker? Ooh you lost money gambling, mad at global and tried to charge back. The same issue that played a large factor in tanking FTP. Luckily Global doesn't seem to have the same vulnerability in their model. (Tho it did make for some juicy games on FTP).

Appreciate any serious efforts made to try to warn people about potential problems with the site but them not giving you your losses back is a good thing, not a bad thing.

FWIW I have never had an issue cashing out and it is always timely. "Purchasing Gold Coins" is another story - it can be tough to get the transaction to process in my experience and that results in leaving more money on the site for fear of going bust and being unable to re-deposit. I don't know if that's only an issue with new PayPal accounts or what but I had a lot of trouble getting $$$ onto the site when I first started.

Last edited by BillNye; 06-01-2018 at 06:25 PM.

      
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