it sets a terrible precedent and people who do business in 2p2 should be very very careful. If a talented player like me, and I know I'm not great or anything, I'm great at mid to low, not so much high, can't get a fair hearing, who can? Why is her word better than mine? because she sucks at poker, and ruining a good player ruins the whole game

this is sposed to be a poker site but it's really an anti poker site, people are extremely angry if you show good stats

notice that I am the only poster getting infracted for this thread, why? I have my story and she has hers and they are different. OK why am I the liar? because i'm good at poker and she's not? do you think every winning player is a cheat or angle shooter?

I love this game. I don't even do it for money. I never have. Why do you think I would cheat it? Because I win?

She hasn't even looked at the data set, not once, so how does she know what she's owed? She doesn't have any numbers at all, I've already shown that I keep meticulous track and have had 5 other successful backing deals. Why am I the villain? Because I'm good at poker?

I thought you were a top top STT player?

Well, since you said it right, just how do you propose to sew her? With what size thread? Do you plan on using regular needles or something special, like the heavy duty ones used for sewing leather?



Lee

I just want it settled and I do want the world to know that whatever problems I have, which I'm seeking help for, I am a square dealer and always have been. I don't want OPM. I give RJ every red nickel she's due. but people like her have to get out of poker or it's bad for all of us. she shouln't be a mod here because she doesn't respect the game at all. she can't be a backer because she will try and free roll mu she can't be a stake because she's terrible, she can't be a mod because she's trying to ruin my rep over nothing

her goal in all of this was to ruin my poker rep so I don't come back to the table, why? is she promoting the game? or destroying it?

I have no reason to side with SGT RJ - I was one of the first people to get some infraction points from her - my only points ever - due to my insistence in the thread about avatars that cause problems - flashing stuff and so on. I didn't bother to carry on that argument because it kinda died out. Otherwise I would have.

But, I have stood up for her here because I see her as a similar character as myself. i.e. somebody who is pretty much a straight-shooting person.

I can also see that you are a 'not very nice person' in this situation, but you may have mitigating reasons. But that is nothing to do with the stake.

Make it right. You will feel better afterwards if you do so.

It's possible that she had action in the 1200 bink because

Whenever her account got much over 500 I would settle. I know she didn't have 900 in my account coz I didn't want her to

this is the 1K ship I sent her jan 10, so I think she did have action in that and not the two others

I was settling her account weekly most of the stake. I didn't ever want much of her money in my acct.

FYP!

SGT RJ is threatening this thread?? I must have missed that part.....

Because you are a liar and a thief? Yup, that would be why.

How could it possibly not be stealing (unless of course the staker released the stakee, which clearly hasn't happened here)?

I refuse to speculate on folk's artistic talents, or lack thereof. Personally, drawing anything beyond bad stick figures is out of my league. Although I'm not bad at glass blowing.

WOW! WOW!! WOW!!! - This incident is going to cause the United States to never get back online poker!!

Because you've stated multiple times that you are a liar? Yeah, that must be it.

Lee

after this I personally wouldn't vote for it

she's lied numerous times in the thread or made such contradictory statements that her word is no better than mine

she is getting sued for this, it's damaged my ability to earn money and I can show that most of it is a lie

she said earlier in the thread that she rarely talked to me, then later she said I was a good friend. how is that possible? how can you be good friends with someone you've rarely spoken to?

she's crushed my ability to earn money over the last 3 years tho, all she had to do was say yay, my poker career continues after BF. Once she became a mod that was never going to be possible. This was her goal all along.

I should totally be forgiven for the way I've acted because I could have made 60K/year over the last 3 years if she had passed me along like she should have. I grinded her out of MU when she had only 8 dollars in her account with me. I did that coz I didn't want her to lose. I ran bad in MTTs and I sat down and concentrated and brought her all the way back up in STTs. I did this coz I thought we were friends.

She turns around and stabs me in the back. Why?

So a 3 year old $1,000 debt has prevented you from reaching your goals of $60,000+ a year? Seems like you are tarded for not paying her off to unlock your sick win rate.

no, the money has never mattered to her, she was going to ruin me in this forum whether I paid her or not, and I personally had 11K disappear into thin air, so I didn't even have the money the whole time. I could have prob borrowed it but then what? she still trashes me

she still thinks she's good at poker and that good players cheat and that's why she doesn't win. that's the whole forum

so close. def need to change the thread title back to the truth.

see?

you have a bunch of mods in a poker forum who are terrible at the game and all they want to do is trash the good players, many of the mods haven't played in years or they lost so much they will never go back

how is that the good players fault?

i never claimed to be good at the game. hell, i don't even mod any poker sections. i still have yet to see itt where you are a good player though. i have seen plenty about mental illness and stealing. plenty about you going back on what you say and retracting statements. about back peddling when things don't line up for you, but meh. at least there is this thread to save potential backers from someone who will not make good on what they owe. even if, and a big if from what it seems, the numbers come out in your favor, this thread should stand to how absolutely crazy you are. sorry mang, just a poker fish with an education talking.

don't you think it's kind of weird that I was in MU 1K on a 750 stake?

Jeff,

On 2/10 and 2/12, you sent transfers of $300 and $200, respectively. Those transfers do not appear to have been to RJ (from her log). The audit from PS does not say who those went to. I am guessing those transfers were to your multi account accounts, or similar? Just hoping you can clear that up.

I'm also fascinated by the fact that your "required" weekly cashouts don't seem to exist. The only actual cashout recorded in your audit is your Black Friday cashout. The numbers that would make sense on RJ's end to be related to small weekly cashouts don't seem to have paired transfers on your end, but I can think of reasons why those sizes might be different. I can't think of a good reason why they wouldn't be near simultaneous, though.

When was the $200 disputed "loan"? Can either of you give me a date on that or remind me what the deal was there?

Oh let's be fair here. The first thing that happens off the bat in your audit is:

1. She sends you $400. You then have $400 in your account.
2. You win a bit, send her $150 in profits, and leave $100 of her profits in your account, to bring her stake to $500. You also leave your profits in the account!
3. You lose it all, and she sends you $500. You're now $500 in makeup, and are holding $500 of her money.
4. You lose it all, and she sends you $500. You're now $1000 in makeup, and are holding $500 of her money.

At that point, the stake is $1500, and you are $1000 in makeup. This matches the accounting RJ posted several days ago:

475477757 12/4/2010 11:32:58 AM USD -400.00 Unreal_Zeal
479598646 12/13/2010 5:15:12 AM USD 150.50 Unreal_Zeal
483375089 12/20/2010 8:06:35 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
487434116 12/29/2010 10:16:28 AM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal

Do you dispute that as of 12/29, she had sent you $1400, and you had withheld $100 of her profits, bringing the total staked funds to $1500? Do you dispute that after the transfer on 12/29, the balance in the account was $500? Do you dispute that that means that the makeup was $1000?

Sorry for the triple post, but I think for clarity people should understand, since this was not clear to me throughout this thread: at the time of Black Friday, Jeff did not have $950, $900, or even $235 in his account. He had approximately $122 in his account, and requested a single cashout for $100. At no time did he have a check from PS for $900 or a similar amount that he could have sent to RJ.

thanks for checking the numbers

calm down ok please. let's just figure out what I owe her ok, I'm doing the numbers myself too

I never took any of the cashouts coz we were losing. I was withholding them, to keep her stake alive. she was down to 8 on her account, so she didn't have anything to withhold. had I withheld anything, she'd have busted. I kept her roll alive early

the transfers are profit taking. I could cash out on the spot to a friend.

um I have an email confirming that yes, the makeup was "a full 1K" on dec 29

yes, this is correct, now I'm beginning to think the first week was just a trial run week long stake

ok so there are some gaps in my memory obv, but here is an email dated dec 13

this is dec 20th so I was settling up weekly at this point

ok thank you, it's been a long time

I thought I had 1220 but I only had 122. Thanks

it seems my memory is faulty is some respects

yes that's what it was

i thought it was 1220 that I had in my account, and that's what I told RJ, and thats how she got her number in the first place I mixed it up with my merge account at the time

since then I haven't been able to tell her anything, she won't listen, and I went along with it for fear the damage she could do for my rep

that's where she got the 950 from