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09-04-2014 , 11:30 AM
Could we please get more sats for the O8 tournaments? I'm mostly thinking about the Wednesday $530 PLO8, where we only get $3+R 3x-turbo and 11+R turbo. Why not get in there a $82 (step 3 ticket) FO too? Even attracting a couple more players is worth it, since the field size is so small.

Also, the daily $109 PLO8 at 21:35 CET only has 2 $25 hyper turbo qualifiers, it would be great to get a few turbo FO or turbo+R.

And it's been signaled before, but I didn't see anything change - why the hyper turbo structure for the NLO8 is so awfully abrupt ?? basically at the end of the 15 min late reg period you would get in with like 6BBs. Where NLHE hyper turbos last ~2h+ (ok, field size matters too, but still) the NLO8 ones are done within the hour.
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09-04-2014 , 09:39 PM
Hey would be awesome if you can add of those 10cube and 16cube Sats to the WCOOP.
Think those tourneys are pretty awesome and would run pretty well every hour between Hot33 and Hot44.
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09-04-2014 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
Changing it to 6 min would make sense and very likely wouldn't cause any unintended consequences.
I think RiverRat is right about the min players. 2 of these got cancelled tonight that I tried to play and I'm nearly 100% sure these wouldn't overlay.
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09-05-2014 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
One thing important to understand about satellites is that we decide what to run based on popularity of the satellite type first and foremost.... so there are a lot of turbos, 2x-turbos, and 3x-turbos. Having said that, given the recent successes of Deep satellites, I don't see any reason that we can't try some for the daily Bigs. I'll add some soon.
Thanks, looking forward to seeing this. Variety is the spice of life after all and I can see them being a HUGE success.

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09-05-2014 , 03:56 PM
I was considering playing the $162 today due to a friend's recommendation. As a 9 man sng player I tried looking for a 9 man satellite for it, pretty shocking there isn't one. I'd definitely try to play this tournament more if there was a 9 man satellite
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09-06-2014 , 11:19 AM


The Sunday Warm-Up WCOOP sats were just removed from the lobby?
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09-06-2014 , 03:48 PM


Now the Sunday Million $74s are gone. This is a big deal and this kind of f up costs both regs and Pokerstars.

You seriously need to sort your SNG Satellite offerings out, for the amount of rake that is generated these kind of mistakes are unacceptable.
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09-06-2014 , 04:28 PM
Lol satellite regs
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09-06-2014 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GuySmiley
Lol satellite regs
Please go back to your cave, troll.
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09-06-2014 , 05:13 PM
I will if you stop whining about satties missing if you don't even intend to play the target event.
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09-06-2014 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GuySmiley
I will if you stop whining about satties missing if you don't even intend to play the target event.
Do you have any idea how much rake these sats and this player generate for Pstars?
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09-06-2014 , 05:42 PM
No, I don't care tbh. Doesn't make sense that he's pretending it's a 'big deal' that some SnG satties are missing for a few hours when he doesn't care about the target event, that's all.
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09-07-2014 , 08:11 AM
lol

big i told you so on the hyper turbo deep

me and 264 friends thank you for acknowledging to my suggestion finally
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09-07-2014 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
lol

big i told you so on the hyper turbo deep

me and 264 friends thank you for acknowledging to my suggestion finally
if youre baffled as to why these will be so popular....
players want
lots of chips/play in their starting stacks
fast ways into targets

these are potentially going to rival/surpass 3xts because they dont have 90 minutes of wasted time every game
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09-07-2014 , 10:02 AM
not one in the schedule for event 2????

should be minimum 3+
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09-07-2014 , 11:06 AM
the 82 omaha sunday games are great but i think the dso hyper sats would run more if the final table got their buyin back like normal 2.70>82s

and i think the sch sats would be more popular with 2k chips and or as hyper turbos with 3k chips

also, there is no reason the sats should be fullring, thats annoying

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09-07-2014 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
lol

big i told you so on the hyper turbo deep

me and 264 friends thank you for acknowledging to my suggestion finally
so for event 1, you guys run a 7.50 hyper turbo deep with 10k starting stacks and for the first instance of the sat you get 265 runners and then you dont schedule any more?????

they should be 6m but aside from that just get them scheduled!?!?
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09-07-2014 , 06:54 PM
the wcoop sat offering today was very strong including fpp sats

hopefully its like today for the duration of the series, nice job
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09-07-2014 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
the wcoop sat offering today was very strong including fpp sats

hopefully its like today for the duration of the series, nice job
It's great that they are incorporating the FPP sats the way they are. As word spreads about them I expect an even higher turnout as the WCOOP moves forward.
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09-08-2014 , 05:36 AM
Has the €500 EPT Players Choice Sat ever run on a Saturday? I've seen it cancelled in the lobby a few times, just wondered if it's ever produced an overlay as there seems to be a guarantee.
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09-08-2014 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
the wcoop sat offering today was very strong including fpp sats

hopefully its like today for the duration of the series, nice job
+1 on this.

Once series is over would really love to see you roll out more deep sats for the milly early Sunday time.

There were alot for the kick off this week which all did really well. One for milly and one for warm up.

Would love to see a expansion on deeps for milly amd warm up every week early (1/2 hrs before kick off starts)
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09-08-2014 , 07:41 AM
+1 yes more deep sats for $215. Also can we have deep sats($27) for $215 weekly mixed games?
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09-08-2014 , 03:23 PM
well, you seem to have made a misstep in the development of the hyper turbo deep sats already jumping from too slow to too fast??

as is they are far better than not being in the schedule, and honestly if you just schedule 2,000 more of these for the rest of the series id be happy

but dont blow an opportunity with what will prove to be a very popular format!!!!

iron out the kinks and get these polished asap




please post the structure and duration entrants seats generated... of the first one(s) you ran so players can comment with more information but for now....





comparing hyper turbo sch mtt and hyper turbo "deep" sch sat structures

blind levels are 2.5 minutes instead of 3

blinds start higher

early mid and late blind levels are skipped

and as a result.....

-in either game 25bb=starting stack at 9 minutes in

-at any point where the games have been running 10+ minutes a starting stack in the sat is equal to fewer bb than a starting stack in the 3,000 chip mtt structure

-1 BB = 1 starting stack 33 minutes into the sat as opposed to 45 in the mtt




most players will prefer these HT offerings over the existing HT ones so its important they dont suck and these are too fast to be called hyper turbo let alone deep.....


....so here's my suggestions for quick improvement

-first of all, honestly it might confuse people naming it a "deep" if its equal to or faster than a hyper turbo mtt by every metric aside from starting # of chips?

maybe rename your existing hyper turbo scheduled sats :the****storms: or whatever and anything with similar pace to the newly offered "deep"s just "hyper turbo" because they are almost that slow


-i would say shoot for a total duration of 50-55 minutes of gameplay not low 40s

-re-insert the blind levels ive shown in the pic, and remove 7.5k/15k [this would have meant the 2 sats that ran today would have ended 10 minutes later at 52 minutes]

-6M is going to be preferable to fullring imo for every instance of these due to stalling in lategame so consider not offering fullring

-consider allowing re-entry during late reg, but this is less important if you just schedule alot of these, and there WILL be alot of demand, so thats actually preferable

-schedule more of these at 1:40 1:21 1:12 1:8 buyin to target ratios, alot more


P.S.-consider adding additional blind levels than the ones ive suggested which are only the minimum that should be added

i havent looked at the levels after the game will have ended but if re-entrys are allowed and alot of them happen for instance in a $5.10>215 ratio, those levels might be reached and would need a proper re-eval

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09-08-2014 , 04:12 PM
also please schedule turbo double shootouts to every event like you do with the 8.80s to the million, never understood why those didnt continuously run for the next 215 event during scoop
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09-09-2014 , 07:22 AM
The only $74s in the lobby right now are to a $215 deadline sat for WCOOP-09.

If you put in $74s to the WCOOP-13: $215 NL Hold'em [Progressive Super-Knockout], $300K Guaranteed event in addition to the above, they would run a lot better over the next ~48 hours.

Recs and regs play deadline sats a lot less than direct sats to an event and therefore there should always be a direct $74 hyper-turbo 6m satellite to the next $215 event in the lobby.
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