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07-13-2010 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
and 10k hands is a good sample for winrate.... right....

I haven't played the higher stakes but I remember reading in the nc thread some of the guys discussing how 5/10 is a rake trap which is why I mentioned it.

what I see is 2.5BB/100 rake at 5/10, what about 10/20?

btw soso can you post positional stats for that 10k hand sample. I want to see were your high vpip and pfr are coming from.
i was semi-joking ive just been running hot for the last 10 days. There all like 10 posts up.
07-13-2010 , 07:06 PM
i know you were, just a sour reaction bcuz I'm jealous of the run goodz
07-13-2010 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SoSo
Theres just a massive difference between my 5 and 6 handed play, and i dont think this can really be good.
I think the differences you're seeing are mostly related to variances and don't have much to do with you're underlying game. On the other hand, you are at least 2-3% too tight in MP.
07-13-2010 , 10:48 PM
10/20 seems to be worse than 5/10. The high stakes guys just don't have enough games running above 10/20 so they are always sitting at 10/20 with the legion of mid stakes grinders. The total grinder:fish ratio is crap and the rake is still tough. From my limited experience above 10/20, at least you might see an unknown or fish at a 4 or 5 handed table and be able to sit.

Last edited by blueherondud; 07-13-2010 at 10:49 PM. Reason: May my shot-taking run good rub off on you all: $30/$60 FLH SH 536 $4,600 14.30
07-14-2010 , 01:01 AM
blueherondud,

please don't let the reason why you jumped up to 30/60 be that you were tryna win back the money you lost in your previous sessions. If so, be careful, i'm sure you are aware that can be a destructive tendency.
07-14-2010 , 05:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leader
I think the differences you're seeing are mostly related to variances and don't have much to do with you're underlying game. On the other hand, you are at least 2-3% too tight in MP.
Mp opening range is A7o+,Axs+,K7s+,KTo+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs,JTo,T9s,98s,55+.

What would be good too add to fill it out a bit?
07-14-2010 , 02:41 PM
I post in Micros, but have made to journey into 6max and was looking for a stat review and couple posts said to take a look here and post etc so I figured I would give it a shot.

6max at 15k hands, last time I posted at 6kish. I reduced my ccing increased my 3! but I cant seem to get my Vpip up... I have been following the 6max chart I was advised on and it has opened my range, but with some of the recommendations it just feels odd (T8s raised from MP etc).


My stats after 6k hands for comparison http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=280

I think I over cbet on boards I shouldnt, though I have reduced cbetting whiffs with a 3villain pot. I am also working on a balance between unloading the 2nd barrel on a turn on a dryish board, as of late I have been feeling MUBSy but I think its more so having to do with Rush week and a lot of unknowns out there calling with air.

My Pfr is up 4 from last time so while its low from what I have been told its grinding up there, same with my ccpf its on its way down down down.

My steal is low, but not that bad compared to where I was...baby steps right? Are my BB/100 out of BB/SB good? as compared to FR they are in line but not sure if should change based on 6max.

I think I right on the cusp of being where I should be, I am rolling at 1.7BB/100 and would like to get that up around 3ish so I can start moving up. The fact that I am at .02BB/100 over the last 4000 hands has killed that number...

I also have gotten my AFq over the streets more in line, instead of getting more aggressive I have learned to let it go and not burn BBs






Thanks again ladies and gents, any help is appreciated.
07-14-2010 , 04:02 PM
defend the BB much more. Folding 60% of the time means that anyone can steal with any two cards on you and profit.
07-14-2010 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
what I see is 2.5BB/100 rake at 5/10

2.5 BB/100 must be Stars right?
I play on a lot of networks and none of them are under 3 BB/100 and some of them are actually closer to 4 BB/100 than 3 BB/100.
07-14-2010 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SoSo
Mp opening range is A7o+,Axs+,K7s+,KTo+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs,JTo,T9s,98s,55+.

What would be good too add to fill it out a bit?
For me 44-22,Q8s and 87s are open raising hands from HJ.
07-14-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Filip
AFq question.
Why is the formula:
[ ( Total Times Bet + Total Times Raised ) / (Total Times Bet + Total Times Raised + Total Times Called + Total Times Folded ) ] * 100
ignoring checks in the denominator?
No one?
07-14-2010 , 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper6788
defend the BB much more. Folding 60% of the time means that anyone can steal with any two cards on you and profit.
Thanks, my 2 weakest points right now are Steal/Blind play and releasing big hands... and tilt of course
07-14-2010 , 05:26 PM
ya steal and blind play was the reason I got into 6 max. you gotta get a lot more comfortable with it. Think about it this way, everytime he raises you he is giving you 3-1 odds to call. A lot of hands that look weak have greater than 33% equity against a wide range.

edit: o and below 45 fold BB to steal is the number to look for i think

Last edited by reaper6788; 07-14-2010 at 05:34 PM.
07-14-2010 , 11:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoSo
Mp opening range is A7o+,Axs+,K7s+,KTo+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs,JTo,T9s,98s,55+.

What would be good too add to fill it out a bit?
44-22, K9o, Q8s, J9s, T8s, 87s I wouldn't open JTo, but if you're making money with it, you should stick to it. All of these hands are somewhat marginal and you want to consider the players, esp in the CO and BT, before opening them.
07-16-2010 , 10:27 AM
What winrate do you think you could achive at your current level if you only played 1 table?
07-16-2010 , 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Filip
No one?
I think the check is covered by "call" ie. you are calling a bet of nil. It would make no sense if checking is removed from this formula.
07-16-2010 , 11:53 AM




Filtered 5-6 handed 1-2 to 5/T covering January 2010 to now. Mostly 2/4 and 3/6.
Am I missing any relevant/important stats in the screenshot?
Flop C-bet too high? Check/raise too much/too little? River AFq too low?

Keep on truckin? Or fix _____?

Last edited by anfernee; 07-16-2010 at 12:09 PM.
07-16-2010 , 12:06 PM
Keep on trucking imo.
07-16-2010 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Royston Vasey
I think the check is covered by "call" ie. you are calling a bet of nil. It would make no sense if checking is removed from this formula.
This.

And why i ask was that i got AFq:100% after betting one river and checking another one on a later hand. I then checked the formula and saw that checks where omitted.
07-16-2010 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Filip
What winrate do you think you could achive at your current level if you only played 1 table?
In my experience, unless you have super-tilt control, the downswings while 1-tabling will mess with your game. You need to be 2 or 3 tabling or doing an MTT or SNG on the side to occupy you mind while you are correctly folding all the time.

Last edited by blueherondud; 07-16-2010 at 05:38 PM. Reason: unless u want to practice your postflop skills with 43s, 97o, etc.
07-16-2010 , 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anfernee
Filtered 5-6 handed 1-2 to 5/T covering January 2010 to now. Mostly 2/4 and 3/6.
Am I missing any relevant/important stats in the screenshot?
Flop C-bet too high? Check/raise too much/too little? River AFq too low?

Keep on truckin? Or fix _____?
I am amazed at a couple of items on your screenshots. Your WTSD is 44. Even at the lower levels I have tried to showdown that high and simply can't keep my W$SD above 50%. La Peste would argue with me. How are you doing during this run?

And you are opening 20% UTG. Have you looked at these hands that you are opening and are you doing well with them? I know this probably isn't enough hands to get an good idea, but you should get some idea. I can't seem to play well enough post flop to make hands like QTo, JTo and K8s profitable.

I have to admit that your stats look really good to me. You may be on the wrong side of variance...
07-16-2010 , 06:49 PM
pretty sure anfernee is crushing, not positive though.

verno, my default open UTG (which will vary due to table dynamics) is:

55(or 44)+, A9o(or A8o)+, AXs, K9s+, KTo+, Q9s+, QTo+, J9s+, JTo, T8s+, 98s, 87s
07-16-2010 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
pretty sure anfernee is crushing, not positive though.

verno, my default open UTG (which will vary due to table dynamics) is:

55(or 44)+, A9o(or A8o)+, AXs, K9s+, KTo+, Q9s+, QTo+, J9s+, JTo, T8s+, 98s, 87s
so you are opening your top 20-21% too. Are you opening the bottom of that range profitably? I do understand that increasing this range will help your overall image at the table and should be constantly adjusted based on your image and the image of others.
07-16-2010 , 07:06 PM
lets call the bottom of my range 44, 55, A9o, A8o, A2s-A7s, K9s, KTo, Q9s, QJo, QTo, J9s, JTo, T8s and 87s

My winrate with these hands UTG is 5.93BB/100. The sample size is small (2400 hands), but that is all I have to go on.
07-16-2010 , 07:33 PM
Maybe you're just that good postflop. For average players, like most of us, I think those hands would end up getting us into more trouble than good.

      
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