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06-29-2010 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
wtf! is this a level? must be cuz this is terrible advice.
Beat u 2 it Bro but quick ? u use same avatar on PS under different name right? I forget the name but put the avatar together in my head with your name from here when we play.
06-29-2010 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by normalcy
its the same chart ive been using to crush .50/1 for over 1.2 BB/100 the last few months!
LoL sad thing is this probably has some truth to it lol
06-29-2010 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kmt5
LoL sad thing is this probably has some truth to it lol
i can post graph or gtfo! who has two thumbs and is baller?

<----- THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06-29-2010 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by normalcy
i can post graph or gtfo! who has two thumbs and is baller?

<----- THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did not mean anything about your play or doubt your results. I was referring to how soft the games are at those stakes that id imagine a decent post flop player could get away with playing a similar style to what Verno said. I highly doubt you open 22 utg but fold anything lower then 99 in MP as Verno's hand chart states though.
06-29-2010 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kmt5
Beat u 2 it Bro but quick ? u use same avatar on PS under different name right? I forget the name but put the avatar together in my head with your name from here when we play.
yep. dcook77
06-29-2010 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Verno
EP hands to play PF
22+, ATs, A9o, KTs, KTo, QTs, Q9o

MP hands to play PF
99+, ATs, A8o, KTs, K9o, QTs, Q8o, J9s, JTo

SB hands to play PF
All hands!!!

Start with this as a quick reference guide and go from there. None of us have had to spend much time researching this and finding out what works best in each type of game and neither should you. Good luck at the tables.
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Originally Posted by normalcy
i can post graph or gtfo! who has two thumbs and is baller?

<----- THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why would you play A9o but fold A9s (I mean I play both, but to only play the worst one is illogical)? Why would you play EVERY hand in SB? Why would you play Q9o UTG? 22-44 UTG is debateable but playable probably for an expert player only. I could go on and on about this chart, but I fell for a second level ldo.
06-29-2010 , 08:13 PM
my favorite thing about that hand chart is that it says to open 22+ UTG but only open 99+ in middle position. LOL.
06-29-2010 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
why would you play A9o but fold A9s (I mean I play both, but to only play the worst one is illogical)? Why would you play EVERY hand in SB? Why would you play Q9o UTG? 22-44 UTG is debateable but playable probably for an expert player only. I could go on and on about this chart, but I fell for a second level ldo.
why this and why that? easy. empirical analysis of my db of over 6 thousand hands played!!
06-29-2010 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by normalcy
why this and why that? easy. empirical analysis of my db of over 6 thousand hands played!!
6k total or 6k of A9o and A9s each if 6k tota lol hopefully this is just another levell?

Last edited by kmt5; 06-29-2010 at 08:28 PM.
06-29-2010 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by normalcy
why this and why that? easy. empirical analysis of my db of over 6 thousand hands played!!
pretty crappy to put out deliberate misinformation and deny it's a level imo
06-29-2010 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
pretty crappy to put out deliberate misinformation and deny it's a level imo
sorry. yes it was a level on my part and obviously on verno's part as well.
06-30-2010 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
wtf! is this a level? must be cuz this is terrible advice.
sorry peste, I thought it was obvious.

I was drunk
06-30-2010 , 05:29 AM
La Peste thought Verno was so bad that he's looser with unsuited cards than suited cards? That's what I am getting out of this
06-30-2010 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
La Peste is too easy to level. That's what I am getting out of this
fyp
06-30-2010 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by St Paddy8
Sorry, I don't have time to read the entire thread. What I wanted to know is if there is a chart in here for suggested starting hands to open with in EP MP button and SB. Thanks
Start with the sticky at the top of the forum imo. There is even a starting hand chart buried in there! It's probably more what you are looking for right now than this thread.
06-30-2010 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
La Peste thought Verno was so bad that he's looser with unsuited cards than suited cards? That's what I am getting out of this
That is what I was thinking too. Thanks for the vote of confidence La Peste...
06-30-2010 , 10:59 AM
And since I should make an actual stats post, here it goes. My last 15,000 hands I have been playing 30/22/13. I used to play 27/18/8. My showdown stats are 39/53 compared to 36/53 and I am up a ~200 BB.

A couple of points of interest...
1. The 22/16 nits make some very weak call downs against you with small pocket pairs on fairly coordinated boards.
2. #1 seems occur a lot more often when there is a 70/20 at the table that I am calling down with Q high.
3. Some of the people I consider to be good at my level will leave if I am sitting directly on their right. (probably a coincidence, but I like to think they are scared of my awesome play)
4. I will take this style of play too far and get myself in some bad spots. The part that I am excited about is that I am actually realizing what I am doing wrong. That is new for me.

Anyway, this thread has been very good for my game and I suggest anyone that is just starting out, take the time to read through this entire thread. Don't just skim it, sit down and read it. There are so many useful tools in here.
06-30-2010 , 11:05 AM
Yay Verno. I play even looser than that.
06-30-2010 , 02:17 PM
Verno might be cool to chat on skype sometime your last 15k is about where My last 7k hands at 3/6 since playing less tables have been 30/22/11 +3.92BB/100 run good . Anyways gonna wait until I reach 100k hands to post my results at 3/6 since moving back down from 5/10 that post will probably come on Saturday. In the mean time i'm gonna dig into this thread and look for advice on ideal stats at 3/6 in a 1/3rd blind structure if anyone want's to give advice on ideal stats for 3/6 on PS plz do so.

Last edited by kmt5; 06-30-2010 at 02:17 PM. Reason: ps if I sound off it is due to being on 1 hr of sleep
06-30-2010 , 06:12 PM
Is there a stat on pt3 or HEM for 3 bet out of the BB against a steal. I know I virtually never do but some other players often do it with hands like A9o or 6-7s against my steals and I think this would be a helpful stat as I fear I am giving to much credit to BB 3 bets in certain situations. I try to take notes regarding a player's range in this spot when I can; however I am afraid that the situation does not arise often enough to prevent whatever notes I have from being skwewed to the few example I was able to take down. Thanks
06-30-2010 , 06:42 PM
So I haven't been running very good. I'm thinking that this may just be sample size but in total I feel like there is something I'm doing wrong. Been watching a lot of DC videos lately and I've cut out some loose peels but I'm having trouble telling when to call down with marginal hands. No offense to the guys in the forum but whenever I get in a jam everyone's "lol don't fold" advice is getting me pwned.

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06-30-2010 , 07:01 PM
At first glance, I think your are folding your BB way to much, as you should probably be close to the 25-30% range. How you can simultaneously play more questionable hands out of position while better deciding how to showdown marginal hands is a question I am probably not suited to answer.
06-30-2010 , 07:03 PM
i'm not sure i agree with having a fold bb to steal below 30%. at these stakes guy's attempt to steals are very low and a lot of the range is made up of legit hands.
06-30-2010 , 07:07 PM
yeah i am not defending as much as you JL, but you play higher stakes. reaper he is right though in that you fold too much. try getting your BB fold to steal under 40, preferably in the low-mid 30's imo.
06-30-2010 , 07:11 PM
how much are you adjusting defend ranges to from what position it is opened and the opener's attempt to steal percentage?

I'm having a hard time figuring what to add to my defend range.

      
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