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Other than Wil, Deuces, Proph, Johnny, NoQuarter and OMG Chez, Who are the Bad P/PU Posters? Other than Wil, Deuces, Proph, Johnny, NoQuarter and OMG Chez, Who are the Bad P/PU Posters?

10-30-2014 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by swissmiss
What? No.I said their voices are important and I have a hard time seeing what is so bad about them. Not that they are the only one and only side buttressed against the might of government propaganda.
You (1 post earlier): But their voices [9/11 truth movement] are still important otherwise we could just wait for government propaganda, read it and then sleep in peace.

Sorry if I used your own words to describe your own position.

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Originally Posted by swissmiss
I was being facetious with the propaganda thing.
Oh, now I see. You were just explaining that 9/11 truthers must be heard because "facetious something something".

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Originally Posted by swissmiss
As I said: Doesn't mean the events did not happen as described.
Yes, you claimed the official narrative was fabricated (at least in parts) while simultaneously claiming it may accurately decribe the actual events. Why don't you take MrWookie's suggestion and reconcile this paradox by explaining your position in something other than hand-waving generalities. We have discussed the specifics of 9/11 in posts stretching hundreds if not thousands of pages, and I can assure you it was not just name calling, as you surmised.

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Still important to listen to voices outside of academia. Especially if you want to think the 9/11 report was somewhat accurate.
Has anyone suggested that nobody should think about 9/11? As I just said, it's been debated for thousands of pages on 2+2. You are the one who seems resistant to actually discuss anything specific, I can assure you I have done in the past, most recently explaining the basic points of structural mechanics as a PhD in the subject to Deuces McCracken.

Last edited by ctyri; 10-30-2014 at 07:30 PM.
10-30-2014 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
swissmiss- Maybe you'd be happier back in SMP, then?
What back, I posted here first? Don't thing SMP is as stupid as I please.
10-30-2014 , 07:26 PM
You might figure out those comma things someday.
10-30-2014 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by swissmiss
What? No.I said their voices are important and I have a hard time seeing what is so bad about them.
You're simply wrong about this. Their voices aren't important anymore. There have been investigations, independent studies, you name it. Things were looked into, then debunked. It's over. That argument is done. Saying over and over that "they may have a point" after it's investigated is simply stupidity.

This is exactly what people do on issues like Benghazi or the vaccination-autism-link or holocaust denial or 9/11 truthers. Every single one of those points have been investigated and debunked by indepedent and bipartisan experts in their respective fields.

It's like banging your head against a wall. In some cases like 9/11 truthers or Benghazi, it just makes you look like an idiot. In the case of holocaust denial, it makes you look like an anti-semite. In the case of vaccinations, it is actually dangerous.

Honestly, swiss, everyone is trying to explain this to you. It's as simple as simple can be. There is no controversy. There is no debate, no whistle-blowing, no nothing. These arguments are no longer arguments because they have been proven as invalid, without merit or insignificant. Anyone who thinks 9/11 is an inside job just doesn't get a voice anymore.

Why is this so hard to understand?
10-30-2014 , 07:41 PM
Swiss, remember when I told you countless times your posts are full of derp? And you wonder why everybody who isn't a defender of racism have a problem with you...

Pack it in and just migrate to SMP.
10-30-2014 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by swissmiss
Ok?
Was my disagreement insufficiently vigorous?
10-30-2014 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ctyri
You (1 post earlier): But their voices [9/11 truth movement] are still important otherwise we could just wait for government propaganda, read it and then sleep in peace.

Sorry if I used your own words to describe your own position.



Oh, now I see. You were just explaining that 9/11 truthers must be heard because "facetious something something".
No, I was being facetious when saying the opposing view is just government propaganda. Everybody does this here all the time, why can't I?



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Yes, you claimed the official narrative was fabricated (at least in parts) while simultaneously claiming it may accurately decribe the actual events. Why don't you take MrWookie's suggestion and reconcile this paradox by explaining your position in something other than hand-waving generalities. We have discussed the specifics of 9/11 in posts stretching hundreds if not thousands of pages, and I can assure you it was not just name calling, as you surmised.
I have a hard time believing this seeing what has happened to me. But ok let's say I just agree with wikipedia. Interesting to discuss? I would be more interested in discussing how countries actually fill and manage their "truth commissions" and what makes you think the US did it right. Don't know whether this has been discussed but I am still somewhat reluctant to engage in it here.



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Has anyone suggested that nobody should think about 9/11? As I just said, it's been debated for thousands of pages on 2+2. You are the one who seems resistant to actually discuss anything specific, I can assure you I have done in the past, most recently explaining the basic points of structural mechanics as a PhD in the subject to Deuces McCracken.
I haven't said that. It was a point about how the 9/11 commission was instated. Yeah, I am reluctant to discuss any specifics but let me assure you my problems are not with how any buildings fell or didn't or anything like that.
10-30-2014 , 07:52 PM
Look at all the fake liberals trying to interfere with swissmiss's freedom to corresponds here. That's some sick anti- human behavior they openly display.
10-30-2014 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Look at all the fake liberals trying to interfere with swissmiss's freedom to corresponds here. That's some sick anti- human behavior they openly display.
What do you mean by this?
10-30-2014 , 08:01 PM
He is too stupid to know what he means. He just plays word salad and hopes it makes sense.
10-30-2014 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by swissmiss
No, I was being facetious when saying the opposing view is just government propaganda. Everybody does this here all the time, why can't I?
Swissmiss you need to remember what you're dealing with. I know you tend to think people will engage in a reasonable discussion but wookies method is to misuse anything you say with no regard for what it means.

Take some time and really make sure you are calm because annoying you by being as offensive as possible seems to be part of his method. It would be foolish not to realise how effective it can be.
10-30-2014 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You're simply wrong about this. Their voices aren't important anymore.

Honestly, swiss, everyone is trying to explain this to you. It's as simple as simple can be. There is no controversy. There is no debate, no whistle-blowing, no nothing. These arguments are no longer arguments because they have been proven as invalid, without merit or insignificant. Anyone who thinks 9/11 is an inside job just doesn't get a voice anymore.

Why is this so hard to understand?
I don't think 9/11 was an inside job. There are valid positions between thinking the report was a good job and forementioned.

And just to declare the discussion closed is wrong. Why is this so important? If opposing positions are so obviously stupid then just let them be obviously stupid. If they are not, then they might have a point. It is pretty easy. And now people will accuse me of making a point that was obvious from the start and question why I made it.
10-30-2014 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
What do you mean by this?
Asking swissmiss to elaborate on her thoughts is censoring her.
10-30-2014 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
That doesn't seem to be an exhaustive list. How low would your bar go, exactly?
Pretty low, not sure exactly but even though we dislike each other I doubt we would disagree much.

Feel free to say where you think the bar is and I'll let you know what I think.
10-30-2014 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Swiss, remember when I told you countless times your posts are full of derp? And you wonder why everybody who isn't a defender of racism have a problem with you...

Pack it in and just migrate to SMP.
I can't. Because SMP is the opposite of full of derp. Well maybe only as long as you post here.
10-30-2014 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Look at all the fake liberals trying to interfere with swissmiss's freedom to corresponds here. That's some sick anti- human behavior they openly display.
Please define "freedom to corresponds".
10-30-2014 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
Was my disagreement insufficiently vigorous?
lol, perfect.
10-30-2014 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by swissmiss
I can't. Because SMP is the opposite of full of derp. Well maybe only as long as you post here.
Have you consider the wild frontier that is BBV4L?
10-30-2014 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
What do you mean by this?

Do you think it is decent human behavior to constantly mischaracterize a person's position and when they set the record straight revert to a group effort to ignore them and pressure them to leave? On top of that they make fun of her language use like a tea partier treats a recent immigrant or foreign visitor. Nevermind the dishonest accusations she is an holocaust denying conspiracy theorist.

In my view, it adds up to abusing another person by communicating undeserved social pain towards them and treating it like a big joke.

They act like some conservatives do when a liberal or similar dissenter wanders into one of their echo chambers, but worse. Usually conservatives are humane enough to simply ban people they disagree with.
10-30-2014 , 08:15 PM
Ya go show ur tits to bbv4l. They will love you
10-30-2014 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
He is too stupid to know what he means. He just plays word salad and hopes it makes sense.

Paul D, chronic abuser.
10-30-2014 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Why are you SMP guys in here whining about how we do here in politics? Go start an SMP UNCHAINED subforum if discussing Holocaust denial is so important.
No one from SMP brought up holocaust denial. I'd be very happy to see it brought to an end, its been quite disgusting.

I'd suggest you ask wookie to resolve the situation if you don't like it either. I tried but he obviously doesn't listen to me.
10-30-2014 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
A Politard visits an island inhabited by a dozen SMPers. They are excited to have a visitor and show him around the island. In the course of his visit, the Politard visits each SMPer individually in their hut, during which time he gets to hear their views on race.

The Politard also finds out something strange: if one SMPers believes that he or she has personally been accused of racism, that SMPer will unleash a rant on the internet.

Upon leaving, all the SMPers gather together to wish the Politard farewell. The Politard thanks them all, then decides to tell them something, that at least one of them is a racist. Assuming all SMPers have standard SMP logic abilities, what happens?
The racist gets angry and tries to burn the island down. Luckily, the other 11 are excellent water carriers and quickly extinguish the flames. The racist goes into exile. Homework scores suffer at island schools.
10-30-2014 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
What do you mean by this?
Liberals are supposed to be about tolerance and open-mindedness, yo.
10-30-2014 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by swissmiss
I can't. Because SMP is the opposite of full of derp. Well maybe only as long as you post here.
Lol, right.

Spoiler:
There is no Wittgensteins or Heideggers in there.

      
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