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That's my point. The difference is that it's even more derailing because it's trolling to complain about personal attacks that are obviously happening. Thekid[s in the playground] will have a new game and others will be forced to respond in kind creating arguments about whether the rules have been broken to moderate on top of all the original modding that was required.

I'm not against the aim but it's always going to rely on individuals behaving decently and reasonable judgement by a mod (which I'm not suggesting is easy) whether we change the rules or not. Is a more civil and interesting forum even what is wanted?

12-19-2014 , 07:39 PM

#22953

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by master3004

I am bigoted against religion in general. That does not mean I am bigoted against religious people. I know people can be reformed from ****ty, awful indoctrination. I've seen it. I'm a product myself. Rationality is the only true way when it comes to critical thinking. Those who push it aside are acting fundamentally incorrectly. Believing in things based entirely on faith without evidence is a flawed way of thinking. That doesn't make somebody less intelligent, it just makes that particular view wrong. I can be a smart guy who believes invisible dragons exist, but without any evidence, I'm 100% wrong.

Oh, you are bigoted towards religious people, because you have a diminishing stereotype what they believe in and then spread that stereotype in public like it's the real unicorn you want people to believe exists. In your zeal to be a bigot, your rushed right over my observations about diversity of thought within religion and that is not a unicorn nor requires hubris to maintain.

12-19-2014 , 08:03 PM

#22954

zikzak

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

That's my point. The difference is that it's even more derailing because it's trolling to complain about personal attacks that are obviously happening. Thekid[s in the playground] will have a new game and others will be forced to respond in kind creating arguments about whether the rules have been broken to moderate on top of all the original modding that was required.

I'm not against the aim but it's always going to rely on individuals behaving decently and reasonable judgement by a mod (which I'm not suggesting is easy) whether we change the rules or not. Is a more civil and interesting forum even what is wanted?

Really?

12-19-2014 , 08:10 PM

#22955

microbet

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I don't think the uncivility, or the complaints about the uncivility are a huge problem. But, the whining about the complaints about the uncivility is obnoxious as hell.

12-19-2014 , 08:15 PM

#22956

jmakin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

What the ****?

12-19-2014 , 08:18 PM

#22957

Anais

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part of me thinks that even if people abode by the spank embargo, it wouldn't affect him at all

12-19-2014 , 08:28 PM

#22958

prana

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I've admittedly never opened the Palentine Israel thread or threads DudeI'mBitter and Deuces post in but Wil has to be getting close to title deserving.

12-19-2014 , 08:34 PM

#22959

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Really?

Yes of course. If:

B effectively calls A racist without actually calling A racist
and
C cannot actually say that B made a personal attack on A
then
C will find a way to effectively say than B called A racist without actually saying it.

we go further into the zigzagian theatre

12-19-2014 , 08:43 PM

#22960

zikzak

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

It was the word 'forced' that threw me.

12-19-2014 , 08:44 PM

#22961

jjshabado

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Originally Posted by Anais

part of me thinks that even if people abode by the spank embargo, it wouldn't affect him at all

It doesn't. I think it was the thread in ATF where Spank managed to post something like 30 times in a row without a single person engaging him.

12-19-2014 , 08:51 PM

#22962

Gin 'n Tonic

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Originally Posted by thekid345

It seems harmless to specifically have a go fund me of Jahi Mcmath put up here on 2+2

Dead girl is still dead then? What a huge surprise!

On the contrary, funding this futility is not harmless. In a world of finite resources the money used to keep pumping blood around a corpse could better have been used.... well just about anywhere really. Ebola? Malaria?

12-19-2014 , 08:53 PM

#22963

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

It was the word 'forced' that threw me.

Okay. forced to play the same game if they want to respond to the personal attack is what I meant.

No-one is being forced to do anything but I assume we all accept, as a matter of fact, that people will respond to personal attacks.

12-19-2014 , 08:59 PM

#22964

SmokeyQ123

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Originally Posted by Anais

part of me thinks that even if people abode by the spank embargo, it wouldn't affect him at all

I think it probably would. I remember when the embargo was at its strongest he was flailing around for attention in pretty much every thread, calling out posters left and right in that annoying style where he doesn't address someone directly but writes like he's addressing a jury or something, just begging for someone to engage him.

12-19-2014 , 09:05 PM

#22965

Gin 'n Tonic

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJ

This. It was both hilarious and pathetic.

12-19-2014 , 09:25 PM

#22966

spanktehbadwookie

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What about all you peoples' attention-seeking by gossiping about others. Look at you all criticsize your own selves, but you are even worst , totally pointless and meaningless degradation is celebrated by you people and you think it makes you special. Lol.

12-19-2014 , 09:26 PM

#22967

zikzak

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

No, I don't accept that at all. Many people are perfectly capable of not responding in kind and even ignoring personal attacks.

12-19-2014 , 09:28 PM

#22968

spanktehbadwookie

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The level of dysfunction exhibited by ignoring open bigotry and demeaning people based on stereotypes is astonishing and fascinating. We all are a case study in failed humanity.

12-19-2014 , 09:35 PM

#22969

spanktehbadwookie

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The anti-religion militants are the best. They act like if they repeat religion is bad enough times it is going to magical become true despite whatever them funny-thinking religious people say. Lol reasonable people. More like zealous praxeologists.

12-19-2014 , 09:42 PM

#22970

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

No, I don't accept that at all. Many people are perfectly capable of not responding in kind and even ignoring personal attacks.

Of course and many people are capable of not making personal attacks.

That has nothing to do with it.

12-19-2014 , 09:54 PM

#22971

JohnyCrash

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

It is true Spank. Look how ****ed up this world is. The world is on the brink and it will most likely be pushed into the abyss by a God nut.

12-19-2014 , 10:03 PM

#22972

The REAL Trolly

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjshabado

It doesn't. I think it was the thread in ATF where Spank managed to post something like 30 times in a row without a single person engaging him.

Yeah, but it's hilarious to check in to a thread and see

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12-19-2014 , 10:14 PM

#22973

spanktehbadwookie

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Why do you all keep mentioning your persistent and ongoing failure to get rid of me while bragging about your basic lack of humanity? Being dysfunctional, failed humans is nothing to be proud of, but you can choose to become better at any time and I have faith in each of your potential to do so. First you gotta stop with the self mutilation. When you diss spanktehbadwookie, you diss yourself.

12-19-2014 , 10:19 PM

#22974

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash

It is true Spank. Look how ****ed up this world is. The world is on the brink and it will most likely be pushed into the abyss by a God nut.

It only true if I choose to believe in incomplete and scary stereotypes. That is just it, I have worked with and learned from religious people for years to help marginalize violent fundamentalism and discredit the stereotype the fundamentalists create. Seeing tragedy like that school shooting exploited by political anti-religion zealots pushing that violent stereotype as a valid portrayal of religion is over the abyss behavior as well. Don't count out the peaceful folk just because they often do not make much noise.

12-19-2014 , 10:21 PM

#22975

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Sorry man, for whatever good religion has wrought, the bad trumps it a million fold. Unless you have an explanation for the rampant abuse of homosexuals, children, and those of close but not quite the same religion in the name of a god. Until the Catholic priests and militant Muslims and gay bashing Christians and those who scare and beat their own children with threats of everlasting hell can step up and say "I do all this of my own accord because of the hate in my heart" instead if "I do this all because my holy book and my god says it is right" the simple fact that religion is harmful can not be refuted

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