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02-02-2017 , 06:41 PM

#1126

turtletom

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Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,749

Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Then why do you support Richard Spencer?

I don't support Richard Spencer. I support his right to not be punched because he has dumb ideas.

Its a basic right to live and speak without the threat of being punched no matter your political views.

Keep flailing.

02-02-2017 , 06:43 PM

#1127

Europa

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 727

I didn't say it was because of the atrocities of the past. Unless they were personally involved, it's not their fault. I'm saying a person identifying as a Communist today can still have redeeming qualities. Every Nazi is a bad person, period.

02-02-2017 , 06:43 PM

#1128

aoFrantic

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So, if I believed you, your family and everyone like you should be exterminated I should never face violence for my views even if I cultivate popularity and power? Just want to be clear here.

02-02-2017 , 06:44 PM

#1129

57 On Red

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadcap

The conversation was about when it is ok to punch a nazi. I asked what criteria he would use to define what a nazi is so we could know who to punch and you came in and described Richard Spencer.

You simply said:--

Quote:

What criteria would you use to determine who is a nazi?

I mentioned several very obvious respects in which Spencer qualifies.

02-02-2017 , 06:46 PM

#1130

TheMadcap

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Read it in context yo.

02-02-2017 , 06:54 PM

#1131

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletom

Also, who can honestly say that Milo is a white nationalist? When he is gay, a jew, and exclusively ****s black dudes. If that is your deluded interpretation of a Nazi or a white nationalist it's obvious you just want to shut down whole parts of society that disagree with you.

LOL that pretending to be a liberal thing lasted all of one post before this special little snowflake got #triggered by people accurately describing Milo without political correctness.

02-02-2017 , 06:59 PM

#1132

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletom

Lol does the fact that Ive condemned all violence and stated Im for equal civil rights for all people not answer that question. I didn't think it was a leap of faith to presuppose I condemn black genocide.

Again, just pure flailing.

Incredibly, though, you still haven't actually done so.

Also, here's a FUN FACT about actual liberals:

One generally doesn't need to deduce their positions on such things! They actually say it. They do **** like, idk, protest white supremacist events and such.

Seriously this whole thread is like the 4 or 5 of these guys just FLABBERGASTED that people see through their bull****. They used all the right words they learned from /pol! How'd those SJWs do it?

02-02-2017 , 07:21 PM

#1133

TheMadcap

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Wait, so we should assume all people support genocide until they prove otherwise?

In the 10 posts or so that I had to make to convince people I wasn't a nazi because I wasn't keen on punching them in the face, I can attest to you that would be exhausting.

02-02-2017 , 07:26 PM

#1134

aoFrantic

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It's weird that Lord and turtle (I'll give madcap a little credit, I think he just didn't explain himself that well?) spent all day supporting this dude and they will get really happy by how he's responded

02-02-2017 , 07:43 PM

#1135

turtletom

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Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,749

Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Stop trolling. Its obvious I don't support Spencer's views and that I'm simply defending his civil rights.

You must be having trouble coming to terms with your bigotry to play these puerile games.

02-02-2017 , 07:56 PM

#1136

kerowo

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,183

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadcap

That's fine but the puncher shouldn't then bitch when he is charged with assault.

When did I ever say it was a free shot? Stop adding **** to this simple, simple message: Punch a nazi.

Quote:

I understand the impulse to want to punch Richard Spencer but the very idea of violence against someone for holding ideas that might pose a threat is not the answer.

That said, I am not completely a pacifist. I am ok with violence to stop other imminent violence as long as it is proportional and we never lose sight of the goal.

As it is, neo-nazis are rightly marginalized in our society. Speaking honestly is really the only defense we need at this point.

You are wrong. Not fighting against ideas as bad as nazi is how you end up with a holocaust. Nazis don't care about strongly worded rebukes but the cry like little ****ing babies when they get punched in the face. Make the nazis cry!

02-02-2017 , 07:58 PM

#1137

13ball

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJvK

Yip. He is an SJW and a partisan shill. It's not taken me long to figure this out.

You're a dishonest moron who can't even read.

02-02-2017 , 08:01 PM

#1138

13ball

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Originally Posted by turtletom

Just be a man and admit your bigotry like 13ball and kerowo. At least they are intellectually honest with themselves.

You think we should tolerate terrorists. No. No. A million times no.

02-02-2017 , 08:05 PM

#1139

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletom

Just be a man and admit your bigotry like 13ball and kerowo. At least they are intellectually honest with themselves.

Still waiting for the other 2 groups I'm bigoted against there Cap'n.

02-02-2017 , 08:10 PM

#1140

kerowo

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,183

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletom

Stop trolling. Its obvious I don't support Spencer's views and that I'm simply defending his civil rights.

You must be having trouble coming to terms with your bigotry to play these puerile games.

It wasn't that obvious.

02-02-2017 , 08:26 PM

#1141

chezlaw

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Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,945

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJvK

I made a thread for people to give their thoughts specifically on black genocide

and I deleted it. That's not remotely close to an acceptable thread or topic in this forum.

Don't try to bring the topic up again.

Last edited by chezlaw; 02-03-2017 at 03:17 AM.

02-02-2017 , 08:31 PM

#1142

TheMadcap

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

(I'll give madcap a little credit, I think he just didn't explain himself that well?)]

I need to go to college or something.

I would actually be interested to hear where I wasn't clear beyond the times where people jumped in mid conversation and were lost for that reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

When did I ever say it was a free shot? Stop adding **** to this simple, simple message: Punch a nazi.

You are wrong. Not fighting against ideas as bad as nazi is how you end up with a holocaust. Nazis don't care about strongly worded rebukes but the cry like little ****ing babies when they get punched in the face. Make the nazis cry!

I would say it was misinformation and the systemic dehumanization of the Jewish people that laid the groundwork for the holocaust but neither of us would be right and neither would be wrong.

Go ahead. Punch away. Just try to limit your feelings of self satisfaction as you sit in jail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

It wasn't that obvious.

It was obvious to me.

The time he said 'I do not support Richard Spencer' made it pretty clear.

02-02-2017 , 11:36 PM

#1143

mongidig

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

I'd go easy on the millions. He'll still get ~tens to a couple hundred thousand per youtube video. His subscribers won't all of a sudden jump to a million. Otherwise, you're correct.

You do realize that CNN and FOX have millions of viewers. How many people now know who he is via this free advertisement? All because of these riots you support. People like you have made Milo a very happy man.

02-02-2017 , 11:40 PM

#1144

mongidig

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BTW....have you all noticed that almost every anti Trumper in this forum is not an American?

02-03-2017 , 12:24 AM

#1145

Shifty86

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 3,502

Remember that time insane people thought they were winning by shutting down a speech by someone they didn't agree with by destroying things and attacking people. But then that person got more air time then ever before and his book sales went up 12,000%. Do you insane people ever get tired of being wrong and losing?

02-03-2017 , 01:07 AM

#1146

batair

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

BTW....have you all noticed that almost every anti Trumper in this forum is not an American?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

I had an Amazon women carry me home from a bar once after I had passed out. She left a note with her number. My flatmate called her to thank her for getting me home safely. She said I earned it.

She wasn't even a six pack beauty queen!

Hmm...

02-03-2017 , 01:35 AM

#1147

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletom

Cut out the ad hominems etc, the deflections, and vitriolic posts the bigots still can't dodge the fact they are bigots by the pure definition of the word.

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
plural noun: bigots
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

The epitome of intolerance is condoning violence on a group. I don't really see a way to back out of that one.

You can read the words of that definition but you can't understand them.

02-03-2017 , 01:43 AM

#1148

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletom

02-03-2017 , 01:45 AM

#1149

5ive

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I'll say this much, these clowns have their talking points so down pat that you can make a bingo in record time.

TortoiseTom over here thinks he's dropping the mic and leaving a crater in the ground with this regurgitated nonsense.

02-03-2017 , 02:04 AM

#1150

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turtletom

How? It was exactly what you said. Assault against someone is ok if you choose to eat an assault charge.

This is cringeworthy. Just stop.

roll tape

Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

You believe in humanity? So, I'm sure you have just as many posts in this forum lambasting Spencer for advocating black genocide as you do attacking people for saying it is ok for punching him. I'm sure that is the case, correct?

Another thing you don't seem to understand is that literally no one is advocating for violence that doesn't carry punishment for enacting it against these people. That's why there is no slippery slope. We are saying it is ok to eat an assault charge against nazis. Not that there is some stupid conspiracy making it ok to punch whoever you want. The fact that you reputable scholars don't seem to understand this is amazing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Literally no one I have seen, in this forum, on twitter or anywhere else disagrees with the first sentence you wrote. No one has argued you should be able to punch people without consequences. Just that some people have to be punched. It's like in hockey, sometime you have to take a 5 minute penalty or 15 yards in football. No one is arguing you get to do these things without penalties.

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