Hahahahahahahaha. Lololololol.

Fly has officially lost his ****ing mind.

Watching foldn chokeslam fly into the cement is amusing.

C'mon. He's there to inflame and antagonize, not give a legitimate speech or express ideas for thought-provoking discussion.

Also, don't act as if the right accepts dissenting viewpoints with open arms. Would I be allowed to take to the lectern at a Southern church on Sunday morning to make a sales pitch for abortion and same-sex marriage?

Who gets to decide what is a legitimate speech?

Like when Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate held up a gay flag?

Donald Trump has nothing to do with this. For the record, he appears to be much more reasonable than many of the other Republicans who ran in this year's race on gay rights - Cruz, Rubio, Huckabee, Carson, Jindal, etc - although it's unfortunate that he's chosen to surround himself with people like Pence and Bannon who would jettison gays and lesbians into outer space if given the opportunity.

Are you comparing a university to a church? I'm afraid the comparison is becoming all to apt.

I still don't know what the SnowFlake Brothers here want from the UC Davis student body.

They protested. Their protest scared Milo and the College Republicans into cancelling. There's two moving parts there(level of protest and level of fear), though, and as you can see from all of FoldN and wil's posts a lot of right-leaning "intellectual" types are IMMENSE COWARDS, like cowardice is probably their core character trait.

Are antifa people expected to like, calibrate their level of disagreement based on how easily spooked College Republicans are? These are the people who lock their car doors when a black guy crosses the street in front of them.

If your entire claim to fame is "Ohh I'm the Dangerous ****** who says things that get liberals sooooo mad, teehee, blacks are criminals, date rape is a hoax, teehee" discovering that liberals got mad seems like something you should've planned for in advance.

But wil looks like some of my people looked up some of your people in real life and we saw what's up.

Lot of right wingers like to OMG these liberals so weak, so fragile,
but who's scared?


Who's crying in this thread right now?

LMAO. Conservatives spout racist, homophobic, misogynistic or some other horrible **** and get called out on it by people who don't share their ****ed up views. Conservatives call these people SJW and claim their racist, homophobic, misogynistic bull**** is really tolerant and the people calling them out aren't.

It's like magic, people supporting the idea that SJW are bad are awful people with views they get **** for. It may be the best thing backwards thinking *******s have done to identify themselves ever.

I'm sorry Fly, but there is a difference between the threat of physical and verbal assault, something at the heart of your safe space confusion.

Anyhow, it's easy to square this rhombus and remain true to liberal values. I support the protesters right to protest (and I even agree with them that Milo is terrible), but I do not support their attempts to shut down the event, ie, Milo's speech, through physical force or any other.

I'm comparing a place full of liberals to a place full of conservatives.

If you'd like, change the church to an NRA meeting. Or the audience at a Ted Nugent concert.

First, I don't give a pass to conservatives who attempt to stop liberals speech. Conservatives, especially religious conservatives, have been the worst historically.

But again, you can't seriously be comparing a university, a place of learning, where diverse even highly controversial opinions should be welcomed, to an NRA meeting.

I seriously can, though, because I just did.

Remove the NRA meeting and replace it with any gathering of conservatives on Earth. Will you stop focusing on the example if I make it Bob Jones University?

As far as colleges in general, diverse opinions are welcomed. People like Milo and Ben Shapiro, who show up for the express purpose of inflaming and angering with vicious hate speech, clearly have no interest in constructive discussion of varying ideas.

You're not a liberal, you don't agree with us that Milo is terrible, and you absolutely disagree with people's right to protest, stop ****ing lying.


Also there was no physical force used here. Like we've seen on this forum, repeatedly, there is NO LEVEL of disagreement with right wing views that doesn't provoke temper tantrums. You have repeatedly said that merely describing something as "racist" shuts down discussion and you've asked the mods here to prevent that from happening.

If Bob Jones university allows protesters to shut down a liberal speaker, they are being just as illiberal. Your arguments from emotion on hate speech will, thankfully, not past mustard in court, so long as we have a 1st Amendment.

https://www.aclu.org/other/hate-speech-campus

You are arguing with a distict disadvantage, for I do know what I think, and I think Milo is terrible. Then again, so are you.

If we are to believe reports, the protesters physically blocked the entry ways, forcing the event to shut down. That qualifies.

I'm sorry you have trouble understanding the personal attacks rules here in Pv7, since you're so used to being allowed to hurl them unanswered in your safe space in P, having anyone who responds with personal attacks of their own banned. You are on even ground here, which is why you and your arguments appear so small.

Guess I'll have to settle for these fools repeatedly taking the time to travel to campuses, hoping to antagonize and indoctrinate, and instead getting jettisoned out like the worthless *******s that they are without ever having their voices heard.

Oh well.

The answer is: who cares.

Are you interested in discussing the ins-and-outs of protesting? Hardly. You're interested playing "gotcha" on the interwebs and #winning. Just like when you trolled your own "safe space" thread.

You keep whining that the bad SJWers are shutting down some punk's paid gig. What you won't answer is when you feel it's ok to shut something down. Do you feel it's ok to shut down a factory? We'll never know, I know, because that would be having a productive conversation.

Do you feel it's ok to shut down a factory that makes dvds? How about a factory (also called a studio) that produces movies? How about a factory (also called a newsroom) that creates content for newspapers? Again, I know we'll never know... it will always remain a mystery.

Spoken like a true fascist.

This is a terrible and awful attitude out of you.

What's next? Should we ban speakers who support Israel because there are students who are offended? What if it works in reverse? How about banning scientists who believe in evolution from schools that teach creationism?

It's amazing to me that you people can't see the road you are headed down. I really can't believe the things I'm reading out of the people on these boards. This mind virus going around has to stop.

Nobody got banned from anything

Lol, I think even you understand how stupid your position is. Maybe one day you'll have the balls to take a stand against it.

Shutting down free speech by the use of intimidation or threat of physical disruption is banning effectively.

Fascism in other words.

To elaborate here... the UC Police are a modern, urban, experienced, and fully professionalized police force. These aren't "Kampus Kops". There is absolutely no question that they could have, and would have, facilitated this book selling tour, or whatev. They met with the sponsoring group, and told them exactly that.

Nobody got banned. Nothing was "censored". This isn't a free speech issue.

As to this whole 'liberal' thingee... even ignoring the sophistry, it still doesn't make a lick o'sense. Do the folks who caused the ruckus up in Davis self-identify as 'liberals'? I'm going to WAG most consider being called the l-word fighting words. What possible connection this has to people who do self-identify as 'liberal's, and who weren't out causing a ruckus, is simply beyond me.

Some dude firebombed an abortion clinic. See, US Conservatives aren't living up to conservative values. These "ditto heads" are going to destroy western civilisation. ZOMG panic !!!1!

Shut up, Trolly, you're an idiot.

How ****ing intellectually dishonest can you people be?