And now you're giving us exactly the same routine in this thread. Really glad you learned your lesson.

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I missed this post earlier. Care to explain why?

Is it wrong to experiment using 'counter-trolling' methods on determined trolls. Certainly can't be more wrong than mean-headed trolling.

Do I have something to lose? The reputation of an anonymous screen-name? Seems most of the trolls have given up on me. What does that indicate about some of the tactics I have chosen?

What do you think of 'counter- political' internet communication methods?

LOL Jesus Christ.

Hey instead of whining like a little bitch that your racist bull**** "gets taken wrong" and blaming the CROWD YOU SAID IT TO, how about you try to be less of a racist sexist piece of ****?

wil does an even weirder version of that where he spews out like Grade-A Rush Limbaugh-style pablum, then weirdly tries to walk it back while getting super defensive and claiming that he's a liberal and always has been, and he's literally dumbfounded that he's getting pushback(he also does that thing where he flatly lies about what he said, that might be indicative of something more serious than just being an ass)....

and then a week or so later he just has one more thing about The Negro he wants to tell us.

This last post is just so much fail.

Remember, jjshabado instituted the so far as unused self-moderation option. Starting the "Re: Adult Conversation w/o Trolls" thread is just a PM, and mouse click, away.

This whole 'adult conversation' meme is pure crap. Put up, or STFU !!!1!

But see this is how you come off all the time. Do you have these conversations with friends? I'm guessing no, because the really blatant logic that was given to you in that 'poor' thread pretty much immediately convinced you that you were wrong, and it's hard to imagine someone wouldn't have come up with those points if you sat down irl to have a serious discussion about it. We all say/talk about things online we wouldn't in real life, even if it's just a few opinions thrown into a post, and in doing so we reveal things about our mindset that we're more secretive about usually. People also critique more harshly online as well since they don't have to deal with the consequences of telling someone they like that their attitude towards something is gross, as well as other reasons.

So maybe, in that environment, it's worth considering that if a bunch of people think you're condescending, you might have condescending opinions. Happens to all of us. Getting berated online has definitely forced me to rethink certain stances and be more honest with myself about my intentions. Or, you can take the spank route and blame it all on sheeple jumping on the wagon of berating wil318466. Up to you really

Wrong. There is a self modded thread in the forum. Lol look at you reacting like an adult child, once again. Look at you kissing ass to the authorities. Got some on your nose dude.

FYI the discussion is also about the inconsistent moderation of the regular politics forum. Of course, if you read posts to understand, rather than to click reply and spew mocking crap, you would know that.

Yeah, if you say. Anyways, that wasn't my point. You're playing semant-ikes for the #interwebs win, all to once again, refuse to engage in conversation. But my bad. Allow me to FMP (fix my post)...

Remember, jjshabado instituted the self-moderation option. Starting the "Re: Adult Conversation w/o Trolls" thread is just a PM, and mouse click, away.

This whole 'adult conversation' meme is pure crap. Put up, or STFU !!!1!

Man the irony of a chronic mocking mischaracterizer making claims that others are refusing to engage in conversation when we have been having conversations ITT since it's inception is fresh.

Your posts are only worth a reply to point out your anti-social antics. Prove yourself worthy of conversation and maybe we can talk.

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If confronting mean people doesn't work, feel free to experiment with other tactics with the assumption that the moderation style won't change.

Do you think some of the trolls attack other people because they think it will get a reaction out of you?

Please proceed. Here I will start...

Good thing I haven't blamed anyone for criticizing wil ITT. I mean some folks deserve to be held accountable for their ill words towards wil, for sure and it is not hard to tell who they are. In fact some posters have already made the call.

So the question is are you just trolling, or are you just really concerned that some trolls might get the **** they spew called out directly or returned to them?

If I'm reading correctly, Alex is pining for the halcyon days when the politics forum was a cesspit of anarcho-capitalist rubbish. In that sense, he is right. Most of the guilty have stopped posting, and it is now damn near impossible to have a serious discussion (LOL) about AC-related topics.

I don't consider that trolling though, I consider that progress.

I do feel free. What if I told you there are different ways to approach confrontation. Mirroring another person's behavior is one. Calling out behavior with specific characterization is another. Those are just two direct methods.

Consider that there are also indirect methods of confrontation. Confrontation by non-confrontation. Indirect information presentation to counter misinformation. Ignoring is actually a type of passive confrontation, unless you tell a person you are ignoring them then it is passive aggressive.

Earlier in the thread you compared arguing like that Star Trek game Data was good at. That was a fun analogy. I like a Kung Fu analogy myself. If you know what style an opponent is using, choosing an appropriate counter-style is one way to succeed.

Do you know the difference between a reaction and a response?

I think all the people he refers to as trolls would prefer if he just shut up. I haven't read a post of spanks in days.

Look at passive aggressive in the wild.

Behold the preference for another human being to be silent. I bet a bag of hot air the people who tell others to shut up would not like being told that themselves, in so many words.

I know the difference. Sometimes, my goal is to provoke a reaction. Sometimes, my goal is to provoke a response. Sometimes, my goal is to see whether a stimulus provokes more of a reaction or a response.

I couldn't care less. Please deliver my hot air in balloon form.

Actually no. Sometimes I can admit when I'm wrong. I was wrong in my first assumption of that thread that people should have a negative consequence on their life if they ****ed up. I think I admitted that by the end of it.

I should work on my tone. When I re-read some of comments I am not happy about the way I came off while expressing an opinion. It's a thing I will actively try to work on. I realize that error and I think the words a person uses have consequences. I will adjust accordingly.

It's kind of funny some of you wonder what "adult" conversations are being missed out on due to the hostile environment produced by trolling, constant mischaracterizing of thoughts, mockery, and the general incivility of these politics forums, while the most popular threads here are devoted to the childish venture of determining who are the bad politics posters, and simply hating on everyone as creatively and vociferously as possible, like it's sport. Sorry if that's condescending. I'll admit I find a guilty pleasure browsing those threads, sort of like soap operas or reality tv.

It's not condescending, it's incoherent. You morons whine about how the meanieheads calling racist **** racist is preventing "adult conversations".

AFAIK, when in SMP, protected from the meanies, the conversations you morons were borderline gibberish that granted implicit validity to horse**** vile racism.

When spank and Alex or whoever monopolize a thread to such an extent that no meanieheads intrude here, we get even more refined nonsense. It's barely English.


The question stands, and the lack of an answer is telling.

SMP is down the hall, bro. Hey, remember when I predicted you'd be in here whining about the BruceZ incident for a year? That wasn't an exaggeration, man, you're literally going to be in here a year from now whining about how fly called you a racist.

You misunderstood what I said, it wasn't very clear on my part. I was using you as an example of not re-evaluating based on criticism.

Right, I was more saying that I think your tone betrays attitudes you have, whether you realise it or not. Not trying to soulread you here, I just think it's often the case. If so just worrying about fixing your tone is a mistake.

Figured that would get a rise out of you guys