its pretty impressive to see it that way.

If no-one else cares about something so ridiculous then why is there a problem?

Not an SMP crowd and group think using team labels should be made fun of to the point of gentle mockery.

Yes to Interpretation of events. No to reaction to interpretation of events and implied future behavior.

The political mockery shunning shaming method is a latent social threat to anyone who has been branded with a scarlet R. Avoidance is a typical, but not predictable way for a person to behave in face of what we have seen.

How many times can the questioner panhandle? How many arrows can the messenger's carcass hold? How many mocking Mexican cockroach jokes will be the response to a math homework answer?

Remember- we are dealing with people like Dids, who swore to hound after every post I made simply because I have a more educated and conscientious approach to racism and prejudice than he does. I'd blame no one for total avoidance of people like Dids to point of no longer posting.

That is an end game goal of team #shutup

Also- if fly and wookie are right, then magically cherry-picked thinking supported by emotional appeal is right. These types of thinking, at best, only ever make half-correct interpretations, in my experience.

I cast ever generation that preceded us on a lower tier. People were worse in the past than they are now.

I don't really think that is offensive. It bothers me a little bit that future generations will probably not really think we are all that great, I guess.

You're the one with the problem. Not us.

Talk to Bruce and tell him to sack up and come back. If he says not unless he gets an apology from 2 people that called his racist persona racist - tell him to grow the **** up.

All you're doing Chez is drawing attention to the fact that Bruce can freely post on 2+2 right now and yet he's not because he got his feelings hurt after posting a bunch of racist **** and he has the emotional maturity of a hormonal 13 year old girl.

It's a lower tier of long eaten worm food. History. Pat ourselves on the back when we learn from it.

Maybe the future generation will look back an appreciate even more how damn difficult and peculiar it is for people to change, individually and en mass. We are that future generation to some degree for our ancestors and for each other now.

They are just making replies to criticize replying. That is the level of the dungeon we are at.

Except when he was allowed to mod probability you were perfectly happy with and it was still a problem

others had a problem and it wasn't Bruce at that point.

I draw attention to the fact, its a fact whatever I do. Your interpretation is your own.

The fact remains others have a problem about the same thing don't they? presumably you think they have the emotional maturity of 13 year olds as well as they are fighting over the same point.

I could literally eat a horse...

Probably the best way to troll me is to type "literally" to mean "really," or to try to add emphasis, or worse to mean "figuratively."

Using "literally" incorrectly figuratively makes me sick.

I posted about this in a thread the other day in OOT.

If Bruce hadn't typed out what he did, would there have been any backlash against him?

I didn't know SMP people were do derpy.

I legitimately think you're dumb. I can't believe someone is as obtuse as you.

Anyway, Brian, this is where I'll take your xkcd advice.

You're missing a point but whatever. I get what you think i'm obtuse about but like zigzag you happen to be missing info, I cant do much about that.

but I notice you didn't want to see that both sides in turn have been unwilling to accept the decision over modding probability and you can't just ignore the fact that enough of your fellow mods cared about it in a way that you probably interpret as being like 13 year old girls because you are sensible enough to realise it really doesn't matter.

I understand that while you enjoy abusing Bruce you're not so keen to do so to others.

Not much to learn other than that humanism is probably wrong. We aren't wonderful; we are horrific. Primates, just a bit more inventive than your average primate.

I hope not. I hope we continue to evolve socially, and I think that means forceful rejection of the past.

No problem with a clinical analysis, and some amount of sympathy, and some amount of "holy ****, I'm glad I wasn't alive back then."

Pessimism makes anything probably wrong.

Ugh. The act of the 13 year old girl is to go cry alone in her room and refuse to come out.

My fellow mods kept posting and participating.

Furthermore 'the fight' wasn't participated in equally. One participant went ape**** and ranted and threatened people. The other side did not.

Please share this info we don't know.

No. I am completely pessimistic regarding my ability to flap my arms hard enough to fly.

I think I might have mentioned elsewhere that I am a humanist for emotional reasons even though I can't justify it logically. I certainly have little empirical evidence in favor of it being reasonable.

Others are welcome to prove me wrong by actually doing something other than anonymously typing stuff on teh interwebs. That includes you, but you shouldn't take that as particularly aimed at you.

No. I have a daughter who was once that age.

I mean saying that slaves had it good during slavery or were better off in America vs in Africa isn't contrarion. It's just plain wrong. It's not like the United Daughters of the Confederacy set out to expand the rhetorical strength of the Union by taking up "contrarion positions"

I don't get it. Bruce isn't banned.

Bruce can post at his leisure and correct any misconceptions anyone has of him.

Its the same mistake as one of those zigzag made. Bruce isn't refusing to post because his sulking.

Now what do you think about the mods who made such a fuss about Bruce moding the probability forum? You know it was a ridiculous thing to make a fuss about so what are they like?

It's not like if someone said told Al Pacino that he should apologize for all the people he killed in Scarface he would suddenly get nervous and knock the person out because they'll know his terrible secret. He'd say "Ummm that's a movie, it's make belief".

It's not ridiculous. Thinking someone that makes racist statements shouldn't be a representative of 2+2 is reasonable. Thinking someone that sends threatening PMs to users shouldn't be a mod is reasonable. Thinking someone as emotionally fragile as Bruce shouldn't be a mod is reasonable.

But this is like talking to a wall.