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Originally Posted by gotf
not sure about a one blind structure for plo but i would change the table buyins. a 1-2 plo plays bigger than nl, but the floor doesn't want to realize that. I think the min should be 100 or 120, max 500. 2-5 should be 200 to 1000. I also think the staddle should become a $5 bet. That would change the hand to a red chip game, speeding up the hand a bit...
The other side of that is not having the game even getting off if the buy in is too big since a lot of the short stackers are very helpful to getting the game going 4 handed or shorter and grinding while the table eventually fills...
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1/2 plo (Hi): I think the game would play much better if a straddle were $5 and if the postflop pot-sized bets were rounded up to the nearest $5.
I don't see much value in a single-blind game; I think it would just confuse and discourage prospective players.
IMO, the key to improving this game isn't to raise the max buyin, although it would be fine with me, but rather to get enough players so that the game would go more often and last longer. It is definitely a circular thing: if the game went every day, more people would show up to play; if more people showed up to play, the game would go every day. We have been on the edge of this for the last several months. But I don't see a lot of players who won't play because the max is only $300. I would like to see a minimum $100 buyin; I don't think this would discourage many people.
Also, IMO, the key to big stacks at PLO isn't the initial buyin (within reason); it's multiple rebuys from a full table (or nearly so) of players who are are willing to play aggressively and play for stacks. But simply raising the max buyin right now probably would scare as many people as it would attract. If the game went every day and lasted long enough for the stacks on the table to build up, it would probably attract more people than now, and the players it would attract would tend to have deeper pockets and more aggression and gamble.
2/5 PLO: Dream on. If we can't sustain an almost daily 1/2 PLO, A 2/5 will only happen rarely. If we ever get a large enough 1/2PLO player base, then a 2/5 game may develop naturally on its own. But fiddling with the buyins won't make it happen.
On NLHE: trying to run both 1/2 and 1/3 is silly. 1/2 is the entry-level for NLHE all over the country; some places spread 1/3 instead. If you want a bigger game, play 2/5.
2/5: Higher max ($800) would be fine; I don't think it would cut into 5/10 at all. Actually, if more of the 2/5 players got used to playing with stacks >$1000 or $2000, I think that they would find it less scary to take a shot at 5/10.