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02-17-2012 , 10:35 AM
this all sounds good until mass casinos open up then there will be no way they could support 1-3 and 2-5
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02-17-2012 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bergs
I'd make these changes - and I'd also change the $1/2 PLO game a little bit after seeing how it runs at other casinos and hearing how often other players want mandatory straddles at $5 to just make it a red chip game.

1-2 PLO - change this game to a $5/0 PLO blind structure with a 60min/500max (100bb). Parx has this and it plays great for the players and is easier to manage for the dealers. I think you'll still get new players that want to try 1/2 PLO try this instead. The fact there is a single blind counteracts the presence of a $5 blind. Only criticism I have for that game is that if someone straddles often (like yours truly), it makes the game huge for a 100bb max. Just not sure that Foxwoods can support an entry-level PLO game with more than a 100bb max, so it's a tradeoff.
not sure about a one blind structure for plo but i would change the table buyins. a 1-2 plo plays bigger than nl, but the floor doesn't want to realize that. I think the min should be 100 or 120, max 500. 2-5 should be 200 to 1000. I also think the staddle should become a $5 bet. That would change the hand to a red chip game, speeding up the hand a bit.

There seems to be would-be players who come over and see multiple short stacks at the plo table and walk away, players that would play if the game was deeper. ( i don't know if they feel if there is not enough cash on the table or don't want to go against short stacks, since short stack play is different in that it's easier to throw in your call all-in as opposed to throwing in a call with a lot of chips behind going to the river.

The other side of that is not having the game even getting off if the buy in is too big since a lot of the short stackers are very helpful to getting the game going 4 handed or shorter and grinding while the table eventually fills.

I have played in home games recently where they have a max buy-in originally and then you could buy-in for a percentage of the current big stack on the table. Say 70 or 75%. I don't know why outside of gaming commission regulations they could not institute that type of rule.
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02-17-2012 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ItWasSuited64
new web site is tilting the **** out of me
rest in peace A9 off..
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02-17-2012 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lolflipaments
rest in peace A9 off..
What was the reason behind A9o anyway? I recall someone on here saying they knew, but don't remember what it was.

ETA: Looks like BBJ was hit Wednesday
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02-17-2012 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
ETA: Looks like BBJ was hit Wednesday
seems to always hit on the days i was gonna go but changed my mind

A9 is the obvious preflop nuts imo
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02-17-2012 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
What was the reason behind A9o anyway? I recall someone on here saying they knew, but don't remember what it was.
a9o was the hand from rounders =p
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02-17-2012 , 01:28 PM
It was hit Wednesday for sure. Once again at 2-4lhe. Winner of the hand at showdown (25% cut) was a regular 1-3 stud player so I hear

Forgot that this same player won stud BBJ last week also. Lol
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02-17-2012 , 01:31 PM
Does anyone remember the 5/5nl game in the old room upstairs at foxwoods? It was probably around 2004-2005. This was back when the 20/40 limit game was the most popular big game in the room. I don't remember the min, but think it was $200. There was no max. Stacks ranged from $500 to $30,000+. The structure certainly doesn't make sense in today's standards, but I can tell you it was easily one of the best games I have ever played in. The low limit supplied a steady stream of fish taking their shot. (More plentiful supply then...Just after Moneymaker, and in Party Poker glory days.) The large stacks certainly put me to some tests, but also often paid off a $2k stack calling light. Actually the bigger stacks got frustrated with the red chip tendacy of the preflop action, and started the 10/25 game to bump it up to quarters.

Bring it back Foxwoods!!!! (yeah right)

and no, 5/5 was not a typo.
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02-17-2012 , 01:33 PM
I remember that game. The other thing that drew the fish to that game was the max at 1/2 was only $100.
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02-17-2012 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
Does anyone remember the 5/5nl game in the old room upstairs at foxwoods? It was probably around 2004-2005
I was playing a few months ago and two players got into a slight argument about the min/max buy ins for this old 5/5 game... I can't remember the exact #'s they were arguing over but they ended up making a prop bet over it and called over a floor to verify... another floor over hears this conversation and interrupts claiming that the min/max was different than what the first floor said it was, and the two floors get into an argument... lol
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02-17-2012 , 02:17 PM
Heading down for some 2-5 tonight around 7pm. Come say hi. I will have a Yankees t on.

Haven't been in about 3 months. Looking forward to spewing some bens haha.

-B
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02-17-2012 , 03:29 PM
they will never have a 5/5 uncapped again.

minimum 200

http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/show...97&page=0&vc=1

im trying to remember, was there a 2/4NL? i believe there was
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02-17-2012 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
Does anyone remember the 5/5nl game in the old room upstairs at foxwoods? It was probably around 2004-2005. This was back when the 20/40 limit game was the most popular big game in the room. I don't remember the min, but think it was $200. There was no max. Stacks ranged from $500 to $30,000+. The structure certainly doesn't make sense in today's standards, but I can tell you it was easily one of the best games I have ever played in. The low limit supplied a steady stream of fish taking their shot. (More plentiful supply then...Just after Moneymaker, and in Party Poker glory days.) The large stacks certainly put me to some tests, but also often paid off a $2k stack calling light. Actually the bigger stacks got frustrated with the red chip tendacy of the preflop action, and started the 10/25 game to bump it up to quarters.

Bring it back Foxwoods!!!! (yeah right)

and no, 5/5 was not a typo.
I went from Six to Midnight reading this. I wish I was good enough to take a crack at this back then
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02-17-2012 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gotf
not sure about a one blind structure for plo but i would change the table buyins. a 1-2 plo plays bigger than nl, but the floor doesn't want to realize that. I think the min should be 100 or 120, max 500. 2-5 should be 200 to 1000. I also think the staddle should become a $5 bet. That would change the hand to a red chip game, speeding up the hand a bit...
The other side of that is not having the game even getting off if the buy in is too big since a lot of the short stackers are very helpful to getting the game going 4 handed or shorter and grinding while the table eventually fills...
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1/2 plo (Hi): I think the game would play much better if a straddle were $5 and if the postflop pot-sized bets were rounded up to the nearest $5.
I don't see much value in a single-blind game; I think it would just confuse and discourage prospective players.
IMO, the key to improving this game isn't to raise the max buyin, although it would be fine with me, but rather to get enough players so that the game would go more often and last longer. It is definitely a circular thing: if the game went every day, more people would show up to play; if more people showed up to play, the game would go every day. We have been on the edge of this for the last several months. But I don't see a lot of players who won't play because the max is only $300. I would like to see a minimum $100 buyin; I don't think this would discourage many people.
Also, IMO, the key to big stacks at PLO isn't the initial buyin (within reason); it's multiple rebuys from a full table (or nearly so) of players who are are willing to play aggressively and play for stacks. But simply raising the max buyin right now probably would scare as many people as it would attract. If the game went every day and lasted long enough for the stacks on the table to build up, it would probably attract more people than now, and the players it would attract would tend to have deeper pockets and more aggression and gamble.
2/5 PLO: Dream on. If we can't sustain an almost daily 1/2 PLO, A 2/5 will only happen rarely. If we ever get a large enough 1/2PLO player base, then a 2/5 game may develop naturally on its own. But fiddling with the buyins won't make it happen.

On NLHE: trying to run both 1/2 and 1/3 is silly. 1/2 is the entry-level for NLHE all over the country; some places spread 1/3 instead. If you want a bigger game, play 2/5.
2/5: Higher max ($800) would be fine; I don't think it would cut into 5/10 at all. Actually, if more of the 2/5 players got used to playing with stacks >$1000 or $2000, I think that they would find it less scary to take a shot at 5/10.
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02-17-2012 , 06:39 PM
Anyone know how many runners the President's Weekend $200 bounty got today?
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02-17-2012 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BDesrochers
Anyone know how many runners the President's Weekend $200 bounty got today?
97
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02-17-2012 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Whoop
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tyty
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02-17-2012 , 10:02 PM
I played in what I believe was the first spread no limit game at Foxwoods. It was a 5/5 game, but blinds were $1 $2 and $5. The button had to put up the first blind. Was weird, but hey who knew any better. And the minimum was $100 and it was uncapped. Brings me to my Aruba experience this year. Bought in at a 2/5 game for $400 guy to my left has $30k. Lol I pretended it was a tournament.
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02-17-2012 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EdBratz66
I played in what I believe was the first spread no limit game at Foxwoods. It was a 5/5 game, but blinds were $1 $2 and $5. The button had to put up the first blind. Was weird, but hey who knew any better. And the minimum was $100 and it was uncapped. Brings me to my Aruba experience this year. Bought in at a 2/5 game for $400 guy to my left has $30k. Lol I pretended it was a tournament.

so are they adding new games ?

also those wild king ace cards.... I only play poker no casino games. last month I had sun-thurs 49 and fri to sun 20% off and played more this time and got nothing ;(

so what do those card values mean do i know need to earn enough points for king through poker to get that (1.5 points for 2.5k total meaning approximately 120 hours a week play for 3 months )

system is so messed
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02-18-2012 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by o0ch
I was playing a few months ago and two players got into a slight argument about the min/max buy ins for this old 5/5 game... I can't remember the exact #'s they were arguing over but they ended up making a prop bet over it and called over a floor to verify... another floor over hears this conversation and interrupts claiming that the min/max was different than what the first floor said it was, and the two floors get into an argument... lol
two foxwoods floors disagreeing on something poker related? shocker!
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02-18-2012 , 06:00 AM
Before there was any No Limit there was a $5-$5 pot limit holdem game at Foxwoods. This may be were the floors got mixed up on the min (I remember $100, but there was def no max). This game ran around the time Rounders came out, late 90's, way before Moneymaker. That was running daily and when FARGO came to town they would run a 1/2 baby pot limit 1/2 Omaha 1/2 Holdem game. Back then when ever you played something no or pot limit at 1/2 it was called baby. Baby No Limit game you will see referenced in old card player advertisements, before it became the norm. Rooms would advertise for people wanting to play no limit, cause you couldn't find it anywhere at the time.
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02-18-2012 , 12:24 PM
Getting really annoyed lately. Everytime I hit a hand against a "good" player they berate me for like ten minutes. Am I allowed to tell the floor to keep them quiet or something? it is really rude and embarrassing not to mention annoying. For all those professional type players they really can't keep their mouth shut.

It is really ruining my experience regardless of how much money I am winning.

Let's just take this hand as example. I may have played it really bad but the dude doesn't have to yell at me for ten minutes and talk crap.

3 handed I am on the button. Flop comes Ad 3c 10d. First guy bets like 25 with Q high flush draw. Second dude (the guy who yelled at me) raises to 70. I have the nut flush draw so I just shove. Other guy calls and the dude who yelled at me whines like a baby then folds. My hand holds and I turn it over. Guy who folded sees it and goes on a crybaby tangent for 10 minutes, talking crap and saying how horrible a player I am.

Just so sick of it.
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02-18-2012 , 12:37 PM
Instead of letting it bother you, try to use it to induce action you might not normally get.
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02-18-2012 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluffzorz
Getting really annoyed lately. Everytime I hit a hand against a "good" player they berate me for like ten minutes. Am I allowed to tell the floor to keep them quiet or something? it is really rude and embarrassing not to mention annoying. For all those professional type players they really can't keep their mouth shut.

It is really ruining my experience regardless of how much money I am winning.
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Well, if you're suspecting that someone who behaves this way may not be too professional, you may be on to something.
Actually, if it really bothers you that much, you can ask (not "tell") a Floor to tell him to stop berating you (which they will do), or you can just change tables.
But it might be better to just agree with him and continue to take his money.
More importantly, you may want to develop enough confidence in yourself so that comments like this (and other things) don't tilt you so easily.
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02-18-2012 , 02:26 PM
these ppl who cry and whine are usually not that great themselves and do ruin the game for some they make new players feel uncomfortable and they try and get bad players to play good however, theres not much that can be done and this will be an issue everywhere you go
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