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11-03-2011 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
Well, Mad Maniac should pass the info along to CHarder and Santoro so that they can rectify this.


I'm not blaming anyone and anybody, the "3% is withheld for tournament staff" was supposed to be re worded by management, don't know why they haven't. Its actually supposed to explain in the flyers of major events.

Some casinos do give dealers a small percentage of that percentage out west, usually a third out of that 3%, and it does say in fine print what the dealers get out of that (in those casinos)
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11-03-2011 , 11:47 AM
I always assumed dealers got the full 3%. Poor job on management's part.
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11-03-2011 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
I always assumed dealers got the full 3%. Poor job on management's part.

Poor job on managements part... WELL QUOTED!

Isn't that the issue with the whole place? It's not that the director is not trying, or the tournament director not making an effort. Had plenty of time in the background of the final table filming to chat and catch up with the tournament director. He would love to put a guarantee on major events such as the Classic and WPF, but higher management won't allow it. Only on Megastacks.
He'd love to give all those pros who stay there for 10-12 days straight a Hotel rate of 90 bucks a night, but its out of his control. They're greedy... super greedy (higher management).

They don't realize those pros will give them some type of play at a craps or blackjack game at 2am on their way back to the room. But whatever.... Who am i to say what's wrong and how to fix it?
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11-03-2011 , 12:24 PM
Yeah their rating system is reactive not proactive, and it's never going to change. They'd get their $90/night rate if they already have an established history of giving that level of play.
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11-03-2011 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Whoop
Someone else was mentioning thIs at the tables yesterday. I will check my status before I leave this place. Black card holder here. Probably just glitchy.
Confirmed software issue with kiosks. Floor checked my status on "main system" and all my days/hours are there.
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11-03-2011 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 78 SOOTED
Confirmed software issue with kiosks. Floor checked my status on "main system" and all my days/hours are there.
Good to know! I'm losing my black card at the end of the month anyway, but it'd be nice to have it for a few more weeks.
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11-03-2011 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Yeah their rating system is reactive not proactive, and it's never going to change. They'd get their $90/night rate if they already have an established history of giving that level of play.

They need to get it together, Borgata is doing pretty darn well on their series. But what we do need to understand is if we're out of rooms that's the way it goes! Nothing can be done about that! In AC there's always plenty of other places to stay at near Borgata where u can take a cab back and forth for cheap... Not around Foxwoods.
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11-03-2011 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 78 SOOTED
Confirmed software issue with kiosks. Floor checked my status on "main system" and all my days/hours are there.
Same situation with me. I even took a picture of it to show the floor what I was seeing. She looked it up in the computers and all was good. Just a glitch.
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11-03-2011 , 07:35 PM
I'm not complaining at all about the non tipping, although that is going to make all the pay checks super weak, we dont choose what or where we deal we get told and they didn't pay any tokes from tournament until the entire thing was finished (thats almost a month). There is a sign near the Tournament Registration desk that says the 3% is a staffing fee and $0 goes to the dealers but it isn't as big as it should be. I also understand the problem with the floors and that getting on players nerves but these tokes don't go to the floors - they go to the dealers so that logic is flawed. Again - congrats to Bobby and everyone else who cashed in other tournaments through out the month. Can't wait to sit at the tables in a few weeks with an actual stack and take all your monies
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11-03-2011 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
I'm not complaining at all about the non tipping, although that is going to make all the pay checks super weak, we dont choose what or where we deal we get told and they didn't pay any tokes from tournament until the entire thing was finished (thats almost a month). There is a sign near the Tournament Registration desk that says the 3% is a staffing fee and $0 goes to the dealers but it isn't as big as it should be. I also understand the problem with the floors and that getting on players nerves but these tokes don't go to the floors - they go to the dealers so that logic is flawed. Again - congrats to Bobby and everyone else who cashed in other tournaments through out the month. Can't wait to sit at the tables in a few weeks with an actual stack and take all your monies
Are you not dealing anymore?
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11-03-2011 , 08:00 PM
incorrectly applied points are a wonderful thing especially when you have such a "strong and powerful union" to have your side and just say "oh sorry i forgot to file your paperwork so its too late" I'm about to head overseas with my other job for a few weeks and when i come back i'm thinking i'll be on your side of the table while my lawyer fights
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11-03-2011 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
incorrectly applied points are a wonderful thing especially when you have such a "strong and powerful union" to have your side and just say "oh sorry i forgot to file your paperwork so its too late" I'm about to head overseas with my other job for a few weeks and when i come back i'm thinking i'll be on your side of the table while my lawyer fights
Hmmmm should be careful on this on your part.
Were u ever paying Union dues (such as initiation fees and weekly deduction?)
Do you plan to fight and get the job back? If you do, be careful while the "case is pending" and you being on the other side of the tables... I would look into it cause i think it works the same was as "seasonals"... they're not allowed to play while basically not on schedule for weeks sometimes months.
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11-03-2011 , 08:43 PM
if you actually wanted me to be "careful" about that you wouldn't have put it in quotes. Fact is an incorrectly applied point is invalid regardless of who stands up to say it or when they say "this is wrong".

I love the job and i love the company but that doesn't mean that there aren't things that they need to change. If you want to talk more hit me up in person i'm not here to bash the casino because like i said I do like working for them and they have a lot going for that room.
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11-03-2011 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
incorrectly applied points are a wonderful thing especially when you have such a "strong and powerful union" to have your side and just say "oh sorry i forgot to file your paperwork so its too late" I'm about to head overseas with my other job for a few weeks and when i come back i'm thinking i'll be on your side of the table while my lawyer fights
Well bummer, that sucks. For you to be out of a job and for me because I have a rule against flirting with poker players but poker dealers are fair game
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11-03-2011 , 08:56 PM
hahaha well i'm not out of a job yet and hopefully wont be. I'd rather be in the box and flirting with all of you... especially you IWSJ. I like the job, I dont need it, I just do it because i truly do like being there around everyone when i'm around and not deployed. Flirt away for now jess. I'll let you take me out to any of your expensive restaurants you eat at all the time whenever you want.
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11-03-2011 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
if you actually wanted me to be "careful" about that you wouldn't have put it in quotes. Fact is an incorrectly applied point is invalid regardless of who stands up to say it or when they say "this is wrong".

I love the job and i love the company but that doesn't mean that there aren't things that they need to change. If you want to talk more hit me up in person i'm not here to bash the casino because like i said I do like working for them and they have a lot going for that room.
I never put the word careful in quotes... i put case pending in quotes... Meaning while you are trying to fight and get the job back while the case is "pending", ie waiting on a decision!

It was a heads up, look into it if you're allowed to play there while you're fighiting THEM to get YOUR job back. Never forget, sovereign nations have very weird laws. I understand you probably wouldn't play any table games or slots (trying to beat the house for their money) but its the same reason why employees can't play poker. Just saying. There's my 3 cents, cause 2 is never enough.
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11-03-2011 , 09:04 PM
i meant quoting my entire post... aka if i were to delete my original post it would still show up in yours since you quoted it which takes my ability to retract what i said from the forum where it could no longer be viewed.
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11-03-2011 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by drwonoski
hahaha well i'm not out of a job yet and hopefully wont be. I'd rather be in the box and flirting with all of you... especially you IWSJ. I like the job, I dont need it, I just do it because i truly do like being there around everyone when i'm around and not deployed. Flirt away for now jess. I'll let you take me out to any of your expensive restaurants you eat at all the time whenever you want.
You want to flirt with IWSJ? I didnt think you swung that way, but whatever floats your boat
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11-03-2011 , 09:19 PM
haha twas a joke my friend. especially after all the crap he gave me the other night at one of the 10/25 tables. I guess he's just bitter he wasn't on the receiving end of the 14k pot I pushed
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11-04-2011 , 12:21 AM
Sad to hear final table of the wpt didn't tip the dealers.

Also good work on 1000 posts and getting an avatar jpysch!
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11-04-2011 , 12:03 PM
Just got an email about the December megastacks. It says at the bottom: 3% of the prize pool will be withheld as a Tournament Administrative Fee. So the 10-20% rake is really 13-23%.
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11-04-2011 , 09:29 PM
When the dealers deal tourneys, do they get a special rate that is higher then when they are dealing cash?
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11-04-2011 , 09:57 PM
not sure about FW, but MS withholds 3% and it all goes to the dealers.
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11-04-2011 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MoHawgs
When the dealers deal tourneys, do they get a special rate that is higher then when they are dealing cash?
yes we do. still differs from dealer to dealer. In my case I lose between $3-4/hr dealing tournament instead of cash and thats including the tokes we pool upstairs. Thats using my lower-average cash day.

We don't' operate the same way as MS
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11-04-2011 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gotf
This is a rule that foxwoods does not have right, unlike the rest of the world. (Maybe, because OP does not detail position)

In most cash games, when there is no betting on 5th street, the order is not who was the last better on earlier streets, but in order of left of the button. If the villian was first to act, then anyone after is allowed to muck. Here the villian acted first, and especially with the nuts, is the correct thing to do.

Having said that, asking to see cards is his right, he called and paid to see them.
This is exactly how foxwoods does business. If there is no action on the river then the first player to "show" goes to the left most player.

HOWEVER: He called a bet on a previous street. Even if he had called the bet on the river exposing his hand to show the nuts before the player who "should" show first is similar to acting out of turn and forfeits his right to see the hand. Thats the answer given today. Also heard this question come up on the 20/40lhe game today and they had the shift called over. Not sure what the exact issue was there though.

I dislike when players hold onto their hands instead of just showing the nuts however i certainly understand how it can be important in situations. (this is me talking as a player not a dealer, as it can slow down the game immensely)
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