Okay, great. Thanks : )

Good point, actually. I started driving that way (straight up 95) awhile ago, and just never really thought about alternate routes -until I started staying in the Mystic area, too-. I've "Googled" the directions, but I sometimes take that with a grain of salt, sometimes it's easier to stay on the highway depending on how traffic is on or off the highway.

At any rate, thanks for the suggestions (all), appreciate it.

Pretty stupid question as I already looked on FW website, and as I think most B&M place don't have it but, do they run any Badugi or 7 Card Stud

Stud yes, Badugi no

You are a great asset to this thread Lattimer, I love it! Not sure if you from my previous post, but this weekend will actually be my first time playing live so I am a little nervous/anxious/excited and loaded with newbie questions, so I apologize ahead of time. What are the chance's of getting a low stake Badugi game running? Is it even possible? My main game is going to be 2/4 Limit HE so I'm pretty sure that won't be an issue what so ever, but I would LOVE to run a game of Badugi for a few hours.

you could try to get badugi running but unlikely that the dealers are even trained for it and you will be helping them along

Seemed to me that half the dealers didn't know how to deal Hold Em, so what's it matter?

Half the dealers were great. Kept the game moving along, talked with everyone, made sure people were putting in money, called hands and bets out correctly, etc.

The other half couldn't do anything right. There must have been seven or eight hands called incorrectly by the dealer and at least three winning hands mucked by the dealer that the players had to correct on.

One of the few things I was disappointed in.

I'm a little confused about your post lol, did you get a game of Badugi running or are you just commenting about the dealers in general

The room offers go by your player rating. There are 6 groups of offers:
Sun-Sat
Sun-Fri
Sun-Thu
Mon-Thu
Mon-Wed
none

They don't analyze your play to the point where they say "hey, he always comes on Sundays. Let's take his Sundays away! etc". The system isn't that complex.

I agree that the poker room brings in ancillary revenue, via spouses, etc. But again, the system isn't very complex, and has no way of factoring that in.


One would think that is where they should be in their marketing efforts. DO complex analysis of when players use the comps they recieve and hit them over the head with them to get those bodies into the facility as often as possible. For the most part, no i amend thsat to may own part, when i have free rooms on days when the poker room is busy, I am there, andi i am sitting in the poker room as long as trhere is some kind of plo running. I will play 20 hours of poker over 2 1/2 days i am there, sleeping maybe 6 hours a night, showering a couple of times, using more that the points i earn playing, on food and drinks. Occationallly offering another player a place to nap or bringing down another player to join me.

If we play 25 hands an hour, that's close to $100 an hour drop (playing plo short handed gets us many more hands although maxed rake at $3)

There sould be a way to incorporate the Bravo system to see how much rake is dropped during the time a player is at the table, to the amount offered to players. It should not be to hard or complex to see what value a player brings to the revenue or income line to the facility.

Another reason is we don't have win/loss drop rates as a table or slot player has, it should be very easy to comupte the value of a poker player to the casino. They can't even figure out that competant dealers getting out more hands per hour would increase the take, or if dealers kept thier own would do the same since getting out more hands would benifit them even more.

Not sure what was confusing.

Many of the dealers are already incompetent when it comes to the most popular card game out there, so personally I don't see why they would not just allow them to deal a game they aren't trained for.

You originally said that Skynyrd and ZZ would be performing together at FW. Skynyrd's website, the Meadowbrook Pavilion's, and my ticket stubs say they'll be in NH on the 26th. ZZ Top will be at FW the same night.

Gotcha

Oh man I must have misunderstood something. I thought ZZ Top and Skynyrd were touring together and performing at the same place and time. What a bummer, that would have been so badass. Either way I am def. getting some ZZ Top tix, doubt he will be touring for much longer.




Edit: Has anyone personally ever seen or heard of a Badugi game running at FW? Seems like my chances are slim to none here, no big deal either way.

Never seen or heard of it running.

Hard to get PLO high running at many levels. Don't think it'll run anytime soon.

Yeah, I've never seen a badugi, 2-7 triple draw, etc going. It would be pretty cool if they did do some other variations, but as mentioned it can be hard enough to get a consistent PLO game going. I suppose we'll see how this DOJ thing pans out. If we're looking at an "extended period" of time, their should be a continual wax (and wane) of players, but hopefully enough coming in that we get some other iterations of poker going. GL, though.

Would I look like a complete tool/newb trying to start a Badugi game my first time at Foxwoods (Live period lol) .. I actually really enjoy Badugi, and the only time I've been able to play is online because none of my friends like it nor have any interest in it. I think I'm just going to let it go though.

Also, if anyone has any tips for a first timer I am open to anything and would greatly appreciate it. I will be playing 2/4FL

Who cares if look like a newb. Start a list see what happens.

I'd recommend 4/8 over 2/4. Hardly any money on the table at 2/4 game. Don't have to buyin for much more at 4/8.

Starting a badugi list is def not the move of a newb, but playing 2/4 is.

Haha, true. What would be a standard BI for a 4/8 Badugi at a B&M ~ $200? Also do the dealers have the choice to deny dealing certain games or are they obligated to deal weather or not if they are familiar with the game?

Sorry about all these post with questions.

the last time i heard of a badugi game running was when there was a 150/300 mixed game that included badugi but that was at mohegan (shockkkkkkkkk, I know).

It isn't the dealer's decision. The room manager will decide what games are being spread.

TBH, if you are serious about doing it.

1. Call the poker room and ask for the email of the room manager.
2. Write the room manager expressing your interest in having badugi spread.
3. Work this thread to get 8-10 people willing to commit to playing badugi on the date you want to play.
4. Let the room manager know in advance you all are coming down.
5. Show up.
6. ?????
7. Profit

Given that it is hard to get PLO going, don't hold your breathe about anything else. Especially if you don't prep the ground ahead of time.

I've noticed A TON of new live players verbalize every action they make and this gets super annoying super fast (especially in limit from what I can imagine). Don't say "fold" just clearly and distinctly muck your hand. Don't say call, just put the correct # of chips out, raise would be a different issue if you were playing NL, but since you're playing FL just put the extra bet in. I'm not saying play silent obviously, just be mindful of this. GL

Thank you so much for the tips on how to get things rolling. Going to start working things asap. I couldn't ask for more on how to get things going.

P.S.: For those that would have interest in a 4/8 Badugi please shoot me a PM on what date would work best for you, 5/15 and/or 5/16.

Great advice man! I am a pretty social person and like to start convos with people but I also have a lot of respect for other. Is starting a general random conversion (about anything from the weather, pokerstars/ftp, just anything) frowned upon or does it annoy the majority of people from your exp.? I will be playing 2/4 FL so I'm assuming the attitude of the player is probably much different than someone that would be playing 5/10NL etc.

I appreciate everything all you guys/gals have contributed to my request today, more than you think! Have eased my mind tremendously!

If you are coming from Guilford you took take exits 86, 88, 89 or 90 and they are all quicker then 395 unless there is snow.

Well I don't love there anymore but 395 was defintely quicker

How many 5/10NL regs would you estimate play at FW?
How about 2/5NL?

Agreed. I come up from the same area and I395 is the winner. At least according to my GPS . Take I395 to the next exit after the police station, then it's sargent highway and back roads to FW. Can get there in just under an hour.