Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa (Atlantic City, NJ) -- FAQ in OP, updated 2021.08.16
01-19-2011
, 09:24 AM
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Because you seem to be suffering from some sort of myopia in your insistence that "everyone keeps the $1000" even though the 3 percent was already taken out of the pool. That way of thinking is neither logical nor mathematically sound.
If it helps you, I'll construct an extreme example.
Say 20 players enter the survivor for $100 each. Without a dealer tip, the prizes would be 2 players get $1000 and 18 players get 0. Now say there was a mandatory 50 percent dealer tip. Now the prize pool is 1 player gets $1000, everyone else gets nothing. Now, it's not like the players in 2nd through 20th, who got nothing, all paid for the tip, while the winner, who got $1000, paid nothing. What actually happened is that there was one less prize to shoot for, thus affecting everyone equally, at the start of the tournament.
This is the exact same thing that happens with the 3 percent dealer tip in current survivor tournaments. It's taken off the top and affects everyone in the tournament equally, regardless of where he finishes.
So if you finish on the bubble and get the spillover prize, be happy and try not to fall into the logical fallacy that you paid the entire dealer tip. You didn't. You paid 3 percent just like everyone else in the tournament.
Edit: to address your point about feeling free from tipping after 3 percent, that's up to each individual player. A lot of recreational players tip $1 on a $20 pot in 2-4, which is 5 percent. If you go into the high-limit room you will see a 20-40 player tip that same dollar when winning a $200 pot. Some people at 1-2 no-limit, when they win $100, tip ten bucks. Some 1-2 NL players won't tip $1 unless they win a huge pot. It's up to everyone to tip how he feels he should.
Practically, I think the 3% is great for the tournament dealers, because not only are they insured against getting completely stiffed, but they also get the advantage of not all winners even KNOWING about the 3% and tipping anyway.
If it helps you, I'll construct an extreme example.
Say 20 players enter the survivor for $100 each. Without a dealer tip, the prizes would be 2 players get $1000 and 18 players get 0. Now say there was a mandatory 50 percent dealer tip. Now the prize pool is 1 player gets $1000, everyone else gets nothing. Now, it's not like the players in 2nd through 20th, who got nothing, all paid for the tip, while the winner, who got $1000, paid nothing. What actually happened is that there was one less prize to shoot for, thus affecting everyone equally, at the start of the tournament.
This is the exact same thing that happens with the 3 percent dealer tip in current survivor tournaments. It's taken off the top and affects everyone in the tournament equally, regardless of where he finishes.
So if you finish on the bubble and get the spillover prize, be happy and try not to fall into the logical fallacy that you paid the entire dealer tip. You didn't. You paid 3 percent just like everyone else in the tournament.
Edit: to address your point about feeling free from tipping after 3 percent, that's up to each individual player. A lot of recreational players tip $1 on a $20 pot in 2-4, which is 5 percent. If you go into the high-limit room you will see a 20-40 player tip that same dollar when winning a $200 pot. Some people at 1-2 no-limit, when they win $100, tip ten bucks. Some 1-2 NL players won't tip $1 unless they win a huge pot. It's up to everyone to tip how he feels he should.
Practically, I think the 3% is great for the tournament dealers, because not only are they insured against getting completely stiffed, but they also get the advantage of not all winners even KNOWING about the 3% and tipping anyway.
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!
God, this makes me so mad! How about pay the ACTUAL 10% of the players the CORRECT amount of money and take the mandatory 3% AFTER from EACH PAID PLAYER!!!!!! Then spillover guy gets more... bottom line. It is fair!! When you go eat at a restaurant... do you tip the waitress before you EAT??????? NOOOOOOOOOO..... you tip after you eat!!!!!
No one is saying the dealers shouldn't get the 3% bla bla bla... but how you can say its not coming from the spillover money is beyond me!!!
01-19-2011
, 09:40 AM
01-19-2011
, 12:42 PM
thinking of making my triumphant return to the borg' friday night after a long hiatus.. been itching to play plo, will call out of work if the game is gonna go 
01-19-2011
, 01:37 PM
NOW (Noodle Place, $1:1):
Chicken Pad Thai or Spicy Seafood Udon Noodles.
Old Homestead Steakhouse ($1:1):
Fried calamari (It ain't your typical Applebee's carimari.
) and New York SirloinMetropolitan ($1:1)
Bacon and Cheddar Metro Burger or New York Steak
I hope to try other fine places, if I could get over my current buffet/Amphora addiction. Heheh
01-19-2011
, 03:25 PM
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My favs from previous visits...
NOW (Noodle Place, $1:1):
Chicken Pad Thai or Spicy Seafood Udon Noodles.
Old Homestead Steakhouse ($1:1):
Fried calamari (It ain't your typical Applebee's carimari.) and New York Sirloin
Metropolitan ($1:1)
Bacon and Cheddar Metro Burger or New York Steak
I hope to try other fine places, if I could get over my current buffet/Amphora addiction. Heheh
NOW (Noodle Place, $1:1):
Chicken Pad Thai or Spicy Seafood Udon Noodles.
Old Homestead Steakhouse ($1:1):
Fried calamari (It ain't your typical Applebee's carimari.
) and New York SirloinMetropolitan ($1:1)
Bacon and Cheddar Metro Burger or New York Steak
I hope to try other fine places, if I could get over my current buffet/Amphora addiction. Heheh
01-19-2011
, 03:27 PM
01-19-2011
, 03:32 PM
01-19-2011
, 03:54 PM
Kicking myself for not playing this. Oh well.