I have seen it going multiple times since Black Friday. I was there the weekend of Black Friday and a group of seemingly internet players and myself got it going. It is spread limit, so more like NL than PL. You can bet more than the pot, but not more than $100.

I think it is going mostly in the evenings...I would call ahead to make sure it is running before heading down there.

its probably the same goofy spread limit all the caz games are. IIRC, pl, even if its only PL up to the $500 cap, isnt legal (at least, this is the way its been explained to me).

thanks CL

are those the only 2 i should consider?

also are 5-500 and 10-500 basically the equivalent of 2/5 and 5/10nl respectively?

3/5, but yes, they are the same except you can't bet more than $500 in any single bet (although you could raise 500 if someone else had already bet).

They are the only casinos with anything other than 3/6 regularly spread. There are a few strip mall card rooms around town which may have other games...I know a place in north Phoenix used to have a 2/5 NL O8 game on Wednesday nights until it got shut down. A lot of these rooms have now been closed but I believe a few are still around. If you choose to play in one of these places, there is increased risk due to the lower security, the unclear nature of the law and so on.

Just remember these games are played with limit rules.
a raise of half or more can re-open the betting and there is a three raise limit per betting round.
See post #1525 in this thread

Can anybody confirm this? I've been swiping pretty liberally since I started going back. If there's any reason to penalize "overswiping" I can't think of it.

I highly doubt it. When you log out, see how long it states you have played for (it displays time played), and decide for yourself. Mine have all been accurate.

Probably some stupid rumor that can't be true.

The swiping at the machine stuff there is ******ed

I checked the balance on my card and it says I have 108 hours or something. This can't possibly be correct since I've only actually remembered to swipe out maybe 10 times after 3-4 hour sessions, and have already used multiple food comps. Not complaining, mind you.

Those are probably my hours as I only remembered to re-swipe or swipe out once in over 20 sessions.

yeah I don't think that's actually true... I didn't believe it at the time which is why I posted here. Just remember to checkout.

I have noticed sometimes the font size / message is different when I do "continue" though, which is strange to me.

Where do you check your hours and get the food stamps? Is it at the guest services?

You check-in and continue and check-out at the kiosks spread around the room. You get your food thingy at the board at the front of the room (the raised area where they call names)

Wow I'm not good with words tonight.

*Disclaimer* While I was witness to the dealer-to-players conversation, this is, as they say, hearsay.

I'm not sure how behind the news I am, and if I've missed another thread on the topic, just move my post; but I'd like to call attention to this thread here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...vegas-1026693/

While playing Friday night at Gila, while sitting at the 1-2-5-250 game there, I was sitting in the 1-seat. The female dealer sat in the box, and opined to several of the regulars that she was depressed, as her friend, a long-time CAZ dealer had been 'fired' this week.

My female dealer at Gila then went on to explain that the long-time male dealer from CAZ had been (at roughly the rate of twice per down) taking two $5 chips from the pot, returning five $1 chips to the pot, and then later dropping one of the $5 chips into his pot.

All tips go into a box at CAZ, and the floor persons (or at least the managing floor person) get a report of those tips. Reportedly, CAZ simply believed the dealer to be "a stud." [Queue a later discussion about hand-waving on dealer compensation.]

A player at CAZ took exact counts of two pots they won during his down, and discovered a discrepancy - the same discrepancy - of $5 per pot. They alerted casino management.

As the story was relayed to me, the CAZ dealer WAS NOT FIRED, but allowed to resign; much like many others reporting dealer misconduct in linked story above, the casino doesn't want to (pick one) cause a stink, open themselves to legal action, pay unemployment, alert players, who knows...

I can only confirm that the story was told, dealer-at-Gila to players-at-Gila on Friday night. That happened. The Gila dealer would not disclose the name of her male friend, but only confirmed he was a long-time dealer at CAZ, was not Asian, and otherwise previously considered a good dealer by management. I know a little more about the female dealer at Gila, but there's no reason to "out" her any further.

So, you can PM me if she's one of the hot ones? I didn't know they were splitting tips with the floor. I've counted pots and found them a chip short but assumed I miscounted.

Don't you think you should get the facts from the Casino itself instead of second hand from a Dealer at a rival Casino? I saw your disclaimer but that doesn't mean much if you are giving misleading facts about a situation that you can't even verify happened. If I were you I would seriously consider taking down your post until you can verify your facts. Maybe listening in on other peoples conversation isn't one of your best traits. Next time maybe you will get the facts first hand instead of what you overheard before you slander a Casino with facts that you can't verify.

Tournament this year starts again at 9 AM each Day 1 - only 1 rebuy this year instead of 2
Semi's start at 9 as well, but they give you a break for the finals, dont know if they will need that with the levels set like they are.
45 min levels - should be an hour
Structured like the m/e tournament but with some antes

Only adding 25k to make the PP worth $1mm if they have 975, LY it was $100k and 900 runners

Service fee is up $20 too and 1 table sats are costing 120, LY i think they were 115
Entry is 1070 ly was 1050

the price and speed of poker is going up, up and up.....

If my facts are misleading, then feel free to straighten things out.

I know what the dealer at Gila was saying.

I was involved in the discussion, and clarified the method in which the dealer was stealing the chips with her.

The Gila dealer may have been misinformed, but the conversation at our table - with the entire table asking questions - happened.

Also, nice gimmick account.

started a 2p2 account just to post a response to this. Thats one of those things that make me go hmmm...

Its all well and good when you hide behind a fake name. What was so wrong about your post that it required hiding your identity?

You're drunk right? Or do you think we should await a CAZ press release We cheated customers on the following dates for this amount of money;

I would be very careful relying on rumors and secondhand information in a situation such as this. Gila River employees are not your best source of information as to internal matters at Casino Arizona, no matter how well they know the parties in question.

I also personally know the dealer in question, and he was outstanding at his job and extremely well-liked by the players. Almost everyone who knows him is severely shocked by the allegations against him. But, at the same time, it is incomprehensible that CAZ management would have taken action against him without strong and clear evidence.


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I guess I'll say the same thing here I did before.

I'm relaying what happened at Gila: At Gila, a dealer told a story, and took Q&A on it. If the dealer was making it up -- even that would be news.

Since obviously you're privy to more information than I am, instead of scolding me, how about correcting any inaccuracies in my post?

I gather by your post that a CAZ dealer was let go (or allowed to resign) under allegations of misdoings. ...which makes your post roughly the same as mine.

I didn't mean to scold, I just was saying be careful repeating secondhand info from people who don't have direct knowledge of the situation.

Yes, a longtime dealer was let go a little over a week ago (pulled from the floor, escorted out by security, badge pulled, formally fired the next day). Theft was the issue, and nobody I know has heard anything about a resignation deal, for whatever that's worth.

But that being said, I'd also point out that CAZ is losing dealers left and right at the moment (4 in the last two months alone), so there is more going on here than meets the eye. Specifically, CAZ just brought on a slew of tribal dealers (straight to full-time, with zero dealing experience) and there is a lot of talk that they are trying to push out experienced full-timers to free up slots. This may explain why something that apparently went undetected for some time is now getting a closer look (and resulting in firings). Obviously in this case it was a good thing, but that doesn't mean CAZ's motives are honorable, either. Nor does it mean the situation will necessarily get any better once the room is staffed up with zero-experience tribal dealers who are immune to the normal discipline chain.

So take it for whatever it's worth, I guess.


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Thanks for the update.