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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
Update?
Hey, I'm in midterms right now so nothing special in terms of volume. Got about 5k hands at 100NL total now and I'm still playing 50NL as more of a main stake. I'm playing like a monkey tbh at 100NL . I'm definitely spewing a lot these last 2k hands or so, not thinking about showdown at all and not thinking much in general. I'm spending my days studying I don't know how much of my capacity I have after that.
Here's my 100NL graph. Not down much obviously, 1.77 buyins but it was nice being up 500$. Had a bad day today at 100NL too, went up a 100$ or more and then down hard. Skill difference
feels like a bigger difference for the moment but I'm not running extremely hot either. For me that means breaking even or better usually at showdown. I'll have to see during my week break if I can get that good mental attitude to stick when sleeping well and playing not tired.
Here's 50NL up to date for comparison
My biggest hand lost at 100NL
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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $87.62
Hero (SB): $481.58
BB: $184.33
UTG: $72.65
MP: $128.52
CO: $56.40
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 4 7
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6.00) A K 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls $4
Turn: ($14.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $10, Hero raises to $45, BB calls $35
River: ($104.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $100, BB calls $100
Final Pot: $304.00
Hero shows 4 7 (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
BB shows K 7 (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
BB wins $301.20
(Rake: $2.80)
This guy loves floating, playing 25/19 and folding to 30% of flop cbets. He 3bets a fair amount too so I was excluding AK. I do think it was maybe a bit overplayed but I don't mind it that much. When river pretty much blanks I went big to get a call from Ax bluffcatching turn c/r with flushdraws.
Biggest hand won
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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $154.13
SB: $100.00
BB: $150.13
Hero (UTG): $190.08
MP: $126.84
CO: $441.33
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with Q J
Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $8
Flop: ($20.50) Q J 4 (2 players)
BB bets $13, Hero calls $13
Turn: ($46.50) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $33, Hero calls $33
River: ($112.50) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $94.13 all in, Hero calls $94.13
Final Pot: $300.76
BB shows K K (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Q J (a flush, Queen high)
Hero wins $297.96
(Rake: $2.80)
Sitting kinda deep in position with a nice suited hand, villain plays 20/18 with a 17% 3b over 116 hands, 20% 3b against EP so I'm definitely defending. Call/call/call as my hand gets better and better.
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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $139.16
SB: $75.52
Hero (BB): $309.05
UTG: $110.60
MP: $188.71
CO: $114.35
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J J
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2
Flop: ($6.50) 7 J 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.96, Hero calls $4.96
Turn: ($16.42) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12.54, Hero raises to $35, BTN calls $22.46
River: ($86.42) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $266.09 all in, BTN calls $96.20 all in
Final Pot: $278.82
BTN mucks A 8
Hero shows J J (a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
Hero wins $276.02
(Rake: $2.80)
Flop the ubernuts, c/c flop since guy is a huge nit 16/11 with a high cbet though. When he snap bets really big on the turn I'm thinking he has some kind of 7 or flush so It's just a matter of getting it in.
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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $261.23
Hero (SB): $104.35
BB: $132.07
UTG: $124.73
MP: $130.61
CO: $63.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with T J
1 fold, MP raises to $2.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.20, 1 fold
Flop: ($6.40) K 9 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero raises to $16, MP raises to $34.50, Hero raises to $101.65 all in, MP calls $67.15
Turn: ($209.70) J (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($209.70) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $209.70
Hero shows T J (a straight, Nine to King)
MP shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero wins $206.90
(Rake: $2.80)
Easy game as I stack a team pro. He's pretty nitty usually and very straightforward IMO, low AF and I think this board hits his range pretty well.
Here's a spew hand to show you what I mean when I play badly.
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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $74.21
Hero (SB): $101.25
BB: $86.60
UTG: $128.32
MP: $48.31
CO: $105.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 4 4
2 folds, CO raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($7.00) 3 Q 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.34, Hero raises to $14, CO calls $9.66
Turn: ($35.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $21, CO calls $21
River: ($77.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $63.25 all in, CO calls $63.25
Final Pot: $203.50
Hero shows 4 4 (a pair of Fours)
CO shows K Q (a pair of Queens)
CO wins $200.70
(Rake: $2.80)
Here's my updated overall
Slight swongs.
Threadsaver No nipples is still cool right
I have to take notes on my mental game. I read a description of redline which I liked, sorry to the OP I didn't take down your name. I don't think this guy plays high stakes or anything but he put it down in very nice words and I could relate.
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Assuming that OP can sustain his winrate it doesn't mean that at all; In order to do what he is doing, he is certainly being very aggressive, but since he's an overall winner, he's not *over*-aggressive.
Think of it this way: In order to have a positive redline and a flat blueline you have to have a good idea of when you can push your advantage and when you can't. By using a lot of aggression, and never letting people see what you're playing, you leave your starting hands to people's imagination.
This means that people who think you're bluffing may float with weak holdings, leaving themselves in a position that you're more comfortable in than they are. If you're willing to take your bluff one step further than they're willing to call, you take down the pot.
As long as your feel is good enough, i.e., you don't get caught bluffing too many times, you can play on people's fears.
The more common high redline graph you see is a rising red line with an equally falling, or even faster falling blueline. That's an example of someone's being overaggressive. They know how to apply pressure, and thus are taking down non-SD pots, but they don't know how to give up when they're behind, meaning their aggression takes them to losing showdowns (hence the negative blueline).
The above is my personal analysis, and I'm no poker genius, so take it with a grain of salt - but I believe there's validity to my claims.
OP: There is no correlation between red-line and all-in EV. all-in EV relates to blue line only (why? well because all-ins always go to showdown). All-in EV is not so interesting for your style of play, because you're not making your profit playing for stacks. You're making your profit by getting people off of their (to their perception) inferior holdings. There's still luck involved of course (for example, you could get unlucky by going through a streak of consistently running into the top of people's ranges), but it can't be measured by something as simple as all-in ev.
In a way, now that I think about, your style of play is very difficult to be introspective about. Since (if I'm guessing correctly) you have a good feel for when your bluff isn't going to work out, and you're willing to fold to strong play-back, if you do happen to come up against a string of unusually lucky opponents, you may think that they have good reads on you, rather than just having the right cards. This will make downswings more difficult for you, because you won't know what you're getting beat by.
Playing the blueline is easier, because you know when you're getting coolered and can figure out whether you're still playing ok.
Bolded part is a concern for me right now, I feel pretty bad when my plays are not working out at all, sometimes they just have it a lot and there's not much I can do except tone it down maybe. Makes me doubt my game a bit, I'll have to work on it.