I posted a long article regarding blue vs red line players some time ago:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15..****-dr-1225070/

Took plenty of heat. It's a controversial topic.

Why are people still commenting on the red line stuff? lol i already said i was wrong in how i phrased it. I failed to define what i think they (red line crushers) may do better post-flop... but saying they are better was certainly wrong. Anyways even then it would just be an opinion of what they do better so it isn't relevant anyway. Although probably still more relevant than most given the fact i have actually had a very high winrate over large samples of 6-max with a style which yields a high red-line. I think it's a pointless discussion anyways though.

Please post pretty graph.

update?

yep, update would be cool

Quick update since I'm slacking

You all remember my sexy last month



Great start to the challenge, calm but aggro play, not spewing too much.

This month I've spewed tons



So yeah, pretty ****ty month, big up and down at the beginning was 100NL then I had to take out 3/4 of my roll (not working much on the side.. bills to pay), dropped back to 25NL and now I'm at 50NL again trying to grind it up. But honestly I've been playing terrible, just spewing so hard at showdown. Had a sweat session with glanza mike yesterday where I played pretty well overall , heatered up in the beginning but then decided to spew away 150bbs with bottom set on 1062ss to end the day down like 8$. The hand was completely butchered where in fact villain could not have had a flush draw and I decided to go with it anyways and was shown 66, so making tons of those plays instead of clicking fold mostly.

New overall, not too bad but not happy about it either.



With showdown for shaming purposes (pretty easy to redline while sacrificing everything else)



So from now on there are no midterms and those went pretty well anyways so I'll be playing in the mornings mostly and not tired, that always helps with blue for me. Should be able to provide good updates.

players that say 'I redline' suck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean

Haha, very nice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know-it-all

T62ss hh..

50NL zoom, it goes HJ raises, BTN calls, I flat sb. Check flop, HJ bets, BTN flats, I c/r , HJ folds , BTN 4 bets , I shove 100BB extra cause I had like 2 seconds left on my timer and said **** it. HJ is 15/14 nit, BTN is a pretty solid player from what I've seen over a small sample, doesn't spew and who would almost never (99%) 4 bet the nut flush draw for example and would call my c/r instead so that leaves him with higher sets, hand is done, click fold plz, no hand, what are you doing, stahp...

edit: pre is a min raise.

You are the most awkward person in all of pg+c ... since that one time I taught you how to spell, you jump into my thread at every occasion you can to get a word in after that other guy.

Thank you, much appreciated, today was pretty awesome already!

lol yea but kinda funny how its not just me who thinks ur a dick, maybe theres something there...

perhaps you shud try being less "omg im so elite im a red line player and i corrected this guys spelling #winningatlife"

You and plastic elephant are the only people in this thread actively joining discussion to try and piss me off. When he joins in, you come sheeping along. And you were licking my balls and being nice at the beginning of this thread trying to get another video. I've been friendly to everyone else, don't bother spreading your opinion of me as if it's commonplace. Never do I say I'm elite or amazing, I'm pretty humble about having lots to learn and being in the process of figuring things out.

Now take a deep breath and come back with something clever or waste the little brains you have trying to figure out how everyone is so amazing at 10NL.

i was curious as to how u achieve such a red line is all, i dont think id actually learn anything from u tho.

licking ur balls? oh you mean being polite and kind, i guess we see being a nice decent person as two diffferent things.

u shud stick to correcting grammar

whats your opinion on c/c 66 on AJKssx when your in SB vs BTN?

Your thread is garbage, your point is wrong. Best players are a combination of both.

Love how people just get my posts deleted when they can't think of a good response.

You wouldn't learn a thing about the game even if you went to hogwarts for poker players over the course of seven books filled with fantasy and adventure. You instantly got pissed off and stayed pissed off since I told you the word is allowed, not aloud. You're an angry person and this thread is not anger management therapy.






Only when I know I'll turn a set and get a monkey to spew. I don't think that was you though.

Here's the hand, in reality I was planning to either c/r turn anyways or c/c on blank turn and river. Villain plays 24/19 but has a 93% PFR from BTN, very agressive on the flop and turn cbets at 71 and 50, tones down on rivers in every regard.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $52.56
Hero (SB): $51.50
BB: $25.00
UTG: $102.07
MP: $87.45
CO: $56.93

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 6 6
3 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) K A J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.55, Hero calls $1.55

Turn: ($5.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.20, Hero raises to $16.25, BTN raises to $46.53, Hero raises to $48.95 all in, BTN calls $2.42

River: ($103.50) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $103.50
BTN shows 3 Q (high card Ace)
Hero shows 6 6 (three of a kind, Sixes)
Hero wins $101.00
(Rake: $2.50)



I'll throw in a last word about this. At no point did I argue that players with non showdown winnings are better at poker, people took others responses and mixed me in with it. I argued against plastic taking absolute points of view on the matter. I identified with some things posted on redline, that didn't mean I was claiming these things as facts.






Yeah I didn't bother getting your post deleted, don't flatter yourself more than you already do.

aloud

yip that was me

Well I like your play in the hand against me specifically. Without turning the set I'd have c/c turn a lot more and maybe watch you give up river, who knows. I thought you played 100nl so I didn't think it was you. Did you think my play was terrible and give me a fish tag?

yip


one of the worst plays ive seen in a good while

Haha alright I'll ship back the money. Really though, I could have 3b preflop but I'm never folding 100% on high card flops against your button range when I flat. So this will happen sometimes.

lol