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01-03-2012 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Wreed Platzak
Hi Greg,

This question is probably asked a thousand times allready but I can't find it in your FAQ:

I want the stacked slot to be significantly smaller than the default for the ''grid''slots.... is this somehow possible ? (playing on a 30 inch, so want to have big tables to play on, but to save space have a small stacked slot)

Thanx.

Geoffrey
yeah sorry at the moment there is not the ability to have different sized slots. they all are the same size. this is requested from time to time and may eventually get added

if you use Tile Setting = Aciton Required, then you could perhaps move the stack slot off screen to save space, since with that mode you would only be playing out of the stack if your grid slots got full, so if you were quick on your tables in the grid and kept the grid clean, then there would be no risk of not seeing tables in the stack. if you use Tile Setting = After entering pot, well in that case you need to see the stack since you play all your preflop decisions there
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01-03-2012 , 07:34 AM
Alright it works correctly on other themes. Although it kinda freaked out midway through 15 tables. Started twitching and stuff, had to close it down. ANy ideas on how I can get SaT to recognise aero theme?
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01-03-2012 , 12:50 PM
does this works with pokerstars too?if yes can be co operated with table ninja or the one program must alone?thank you
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01-04-2012 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pureklas
Alright it works correctly on other themes. Although it kinda freaked out midway through 15 tables. Started twitching and stuff, had to close it down. ANy ideas on how I can get SaT to recognise aero theme?
are you certain that windows is running Aero theme? what windows version are you using?

heres how you do it in Vista:
http://www.petri.co.il/enable_window...o_graphics.htm

on win7 i believe you just right click the desktop, click Personalize, and choose one of the Aero themes

getting SaT to recognize Aero and use DWM mode will likely help your problems
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01-04-2012 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ulairiiii
does this works with pokerstars too?if yes can be co operated with table ninja or the one program must alone?thank you
yes it works with pokerstars and can work with tableninja too. if you need any help just ask
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01-04-2012 , 03:16 AM
I'm using windows 7 and did as you said.
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01-04-2012 , 05:24 AM
I played my first session with stackandtile.I must say it is very very very good program but i have the following problems

1)The program tends to tile the tables before the action required and when the cards are in my hand.This cause to be opened too many slots and when i hand needs action it is probably in the stack because i watch the tables while there are 4-5 people before me to act

2)Most times that i win a hand the table remains in the tile version and doesnt return in the stack as it was supposed

3)When i hit the auto fold button the table didnt return in the stack but it remains in the tile mode

If you have an all in button then you will rule the world
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01-04-2012 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pureklas
I'm using windows 7 and did as you said.
ok, then try to use Scan Mode = DWM in SaT and tell me what it says. it should only tell you that you need to re-include your sites, which you will need to do. it shouldnt tell you that Aero is not enabled..
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01-04-2012 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ulairiiii
I played my first session with stackandtile.I must say it is very very very good program but i have the following problems

1)The program tends to tile the tables before the action required and when the cards are in my hand.This cause to be opened too many slots and when i hand needs action it is probably in the stack because i watch the tables while there are 4-5 people before me to act
are you using Hyper Simple theme? this is the only theme that has this bug. can you try using a different theme such as Classic and then remove your PokerStarsHyperSimple site in SaT, and then re-include PokerStarsClassic?

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2)Most times that i win a hand the table remains in the tile version and doesnt return in the stack as it was supposed
this is actually how it was designed. a table only goes back to the stack when you click Fold or when you send a "stack" hotkey. so whenever a hand goes to showdown, or if you bet the flop and everyone folds, the table will remain in grid. i figured this wasnt too much of a problem since a new hand will start within the next 5 seconds which you will need to act on.

but this feature is requested and is next on the to-do list

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3)When i hit the auto fold button the table didnt return in the stack but it remains in the tile mode
the pre-fold checkbox doesn't respond to mouse clicks. if you set up a "fold+stack" hotkey in SaT, it should click that checkbox for you and also move the table back to the stack, which should solve your problem (however if you are using Hyper Simple, SaT will probably instantly move the table back to the grid)

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heh, too hard to do because SaT needs to work on all pokersites
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01-04-2012 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
ok, then try to use Scan Mode = DWM in SaT and tell me what it says. it should only tell you that you need to re-include your sites, which you will need to do. it shouldnt tell you that Aero is not enabled..
It says To use DWM scan mode, you must enable Aero Theme...

I have aero theme enabled obvy. Also, I have had the you need to re-include your site window before and I followed those actions.
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01-04-2012 , 11:26 AM
hrmmmm v strange. are you running SaT as administrator?
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01-04-2012 , 05:59 PM
I ran in to a problem when trying to get it to work as I want.
I am used to playing cascaded and get really confused when the screen doesn't tell me where to look.
So basicly what I want is to SaT to stack my tables after every action I take.
So when I press check (with the mouse) on the turn I want it to stack the table until it is my turn to act again on the river.

Is this possible to do while playing with the mouse?
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01-04-2012 , 07:24 PM
I'm having some problems with ongame. Some tables doesn't return to stack when I fold, (have even tried folding several times in a row, it is like SaT doesn't recognise the windows anymore or something).
After I stack them manually they start working again, atleast for a while.

Any idea why this is happening?
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01-05-2012 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeis
So basicly what I want is to SaT to stack my tables after every action I take.
So when I press check (with the mouse) on the turn I want it to stack the table until it is my turn to act again on the river.

Is this possible to do while playing with the mouse?
yeah some people requested this a while ago, and hotkeys were added to "call+stack" and "bet+stack". the functionality is not available for this to work when just clicking buttons with the mouse unfortunately. you'd have to use hotkeys


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I'm having some problems with ongame. Some tables doesn't return to stack when I fold, (have even tried folding several times in a row, it is like SaT doesn't recognise the windows anymore or something).
After I stack them manually they start working again, atleast for a while.

Any idea why this is happening?
not sure why its happening at all. are the tables going back to the stack and then instantly popping back to the grid, giving the impression that they've never left?
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01-07-2012 , 12:21 PM
Hi,

I'm a new user to the program and i really like it. I'm having one small annoying problem with it though. It seems to be exclusive to ipoker. When i'm playing, i lock the table i'm playing into the grid. However, whenever it's my turn it act, it moves from the grid to the stack and then back to the grid in the span of a second or so. It's really distracting me and i was wondering if it's a bug or something on my end.

Thanks
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01-07-2012 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Warder
Hi,

I'm a new user to the program and i really like it. I'm having one small annoying problem with it though. It seems to be exclusive to ipoker. When i'm playing, i lock the table i'm playing into the grid. However, whenever it's my turn it act, it moves from the grid to the stack and then back to the grid in the span of a second or so. It's really distracting me and i was wondering if it's a bug or something on my end.

Thanks
usually when the tables snap instantly back to the grid, it is when someone is intentionally trying to re-stack the table, but SaT thinks that the table still needs your action and tries to put it back into grid for you.

this does sound like a bug. if you are using the "keep in grid" hotkey on the table, you should get a brief popup letting you know that the table is locked. you can test this by trying to send a "stack table" hotkey to the table and see that it doesn't work. but you say that the table is already in grid, and then when action comes around to you, the tables goes back to the stack? this should really never happen, it should be the other way around, ie: from stack to grid
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01-07-2012 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
usually when the tables snap instantly back to the grid, it is when someone is intentionally trying to re-stack the table, but SaT thinks that the table still needs your action and tries to put it back into grid for you.

this does sound like a bug. if you are using the "keep in grid" hotkey on the table, you should get a brief popup letting you know that the table is locked. you can test this by trying to send a "stack table" hotkey to the table and see that it doesn't work. but you say that the table is already in grid, and then when action comes around to you, the tables goes back to the stack? this should really never happen, it should be the other way around, ie: from stack to grid
Yeah it doesn't happen with any other site besides ipoker for me. I get the grid pop up that says on or off. I make sure that i have it on. SO here's what happens: I'm playing heads up so when somebody sits me, i don't want it to ever go back to the stack until that player leaves. I keep the rest of my tables in a stack. When somebody sits, the table pops up to the top of the stack, and then I instantly press my "keep in grid" hotkey. The table stays in the slot until it's my action is required and then it gets sent to the stack and instantly back to the slot, until my action on the next street in required. Rinse and repeat. It does this for every action for every hand at ipoker.
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01-07-2012 , 05:46 PM
I really like this program. It is easy to set up and easy to use. I also love the idea of making it free for low stakes and then charging a small amount monthly so that it is not such an investment if you don't like it. It really shows that you have believe in your product because you know it will help people to be more profitable and that they will want to use it over the long term.

However, as a sit and go player I am still more profitable playing tiled as SAT causes me to miss valuable oppotunities in the later stages of tournaments. I have some feature requests that I think would make it more profitable for SNG players.

1. Automatically send tables to the grid when certain criteria are met such as your stack drops below a certain number of BB or when there are less than a certain number of people left ie. it gets near the bubble. I was trying to do this manually but when playing 12 tables sometimes it can be a few hands before i realised one of the criteria was met.

2. Have 2 grids, one for interesting hands to play the other for bubble and short stack situations.

I think the 2 are similar it could just be that with a grid of 9 slots slot one would be the stack 2-6 for interesting hands and 7-9 for tables at the late stages.

I appreciate that it may not be so simple to add this kind of functionality but have you ever thought about anything like that before and what are the chances of implimenting them.
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01-07-2012 , 08:21 PM
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Yeah it doesn't happen with any other site besides ipoker for me. I get the grid pop up that says on or off. I make sure that i have it on. SO here's what happens: I'm playing heads up so when somebody sits me, i don't want it to ever go back to the stack until that player leaves. I keep the rest of my tables in a stack. When somebody sits, the table pops up to the top of the stack, and then I instantly press my "keep in grid" hotkey. The table stays in the slot until it's my action is required and then it gets sent to the stack and instantly back to the slot, until my action on the next street in required. Rinse and repeat. It does this for every action for every hand at ipoker.
there might be a bug in the part where you are pressing "Keep in Grid" while the table is still in the stack. that feature was added later on so it could have been buggy.

can you try first moving the table out of the stack and into the grid with a "Move Into Next Slot" hotkey, and then using your "Keep in Grid" hotkey on it, and see if it produces the same results?
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01-07-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ElloraBoy
I really like this program. It is easy to set up and easy to use. I also love the idea of making it free for low stakes and then charging a small amount monthly so that it is not such an investment if you don't like it. It really shows that you have believe in your product because you know it will help people to be more profitable and that they will want to use it over the long term.
thank you very much, i really appreciate that because some people have different views about what you commented on

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However, as a sit and go player I am still more profitable playing tiled as SAT causes me to miss valuable oppotunities in the later stages of tournaments. I have some feature requests that I think would make it more profitable for SNG players.

1. Automatically send tables to the grid when certain criteria are met such as your stack drops below a certain number of BB or when there are less than a certain number of people left ie. it gets near the bubble. I was trying to do this manually but when playing 12 tables sometimes it can be a few hands before i realised one of the criteria was met.
these are def good ideas and have been suggested before, the problem is that its very difficult to determine stack sizes and players at the table. its even harder to do that across multiple poker sites at the same time. i think just recently with the advent of PT4/HEM2 you will see stacksize in bb as part of the hud, because its tough to do in real time. i believe they are reading the hand histories to determine the stack size. this is just not practical for me to maintain across all poker sites

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2. Have 2 grids, one for interesting hands to play the other for bubble and short stack situations.

I think the 2 are similar it could just be that with a grid of 9 slots slot one would be the stack 2-6 for interesting hands and 7-9 for tables at the late stages.

I appreciate that it may not be so simple to add this kind of functionality but have you ever thought about anything like that before and what are the chances of implimenting them.
they are similar ideas becuase they both revovle around getting specific information from the tables that is different from simply requiring action. for example, other people have asked for two grids, one for MTTs and one for SNGs, or one for 180mans and one for 45mans, or one for 600nl and one for 400nl. at this point its very unlikely that i add this functionality

the poster above you is experimenting with the "Keep in Grid" hotkey. in actuality that hotkey was originally designed for exactly your situation: tournaments where you are deep and dont want to miss the action in other hands or miss important stealing spots. i would suggest you give that a try, and see if its an acceptable wokraround for you. for example, once you are on the bubble or are short stacked, use the "Keep in Grid" hotkey on the table and it will be locked in the grid until you toggle the hotkey off. that way you can continue folding without worrying that you will lose the table back into the stack
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01-08-2012 , 04:29 AM
Thanks for your quick response. I appreciate the obstacles that you would have to face in developing those features.
The way I was playing was to have a grid of nine tables with the stack top left. When I was getting deep I was using the 'Move Table to previous Slot' so that it would go to slot 9 and therefore be separate from the other tables where I enter a pot. However it still then needed to be 'Kept in Grid' so that was another button that needed to be pressed and when other tables steal focus it can become confusing. I will keep trying it though, eperimenting with different settings to do with tables taking focus. I tried setting the 2 commands to the same hot key but it did not work, I think it just performed one the commands and ignored the other.
Another problem I had was that when I already had one table in slot 9 and wanted to move another table to that bottom row of the grid, where I was keeping tables that I was deep on, it gave me an error, something about not beeing able to find the table.
Sorry that is a bit vague I had not originally intended to mention these problems as I can't remember the details. I will kepp eperimenting and maybe video my session so I can give you better feedback.
Do you have an affiliate program?
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01-08-2012 , 12:07 PM
are you sending hotkeys to the "table under the mouse" or to the "active table" ? most users are using "table under the mouse" and therefore other setting hasnt been widely tested. there is a setting in Advanced Options to give focus to the tables as they move to the grid, maybe you can try playing with that

my payment provider does have an affiliate setup, i just havent looked into it yet. if you have an idea feel free to PM me
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01-09-2012 , 09:13 AM
Just had another issue with ongame this time. Normally, i keep chat closed, but this time i opened the chat because a player was talking to me. When this happened, your program went into and endless loop of trying to resize the table (because the table just became bigger when i expanded chat). Because this happened, my mouse kept jumping to the bottom right corner of the table and i couldn't override it with command because it just kept stealing the focus. Is there needs to be a hotkey that kills the program for instances like this.
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01-09-2012 , 01:14 PM
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Just had another issue with ongame this time. Normally, i keep chat closed, but this time i opened the chat because a player was talking to me. When this happened, your program went into and endless loop of trying to resize the table (because the table just became bigger when i expanded chat). Because this happened, my mouse kept jumping to the bottom right corner of the table and i couldn't override it with command because it just kept stealing the focus.
ongame is very bad software, it is written in java and some users experience the endless loop of trying to resize the table all the time, and they are uanble to even use SaT with it sorry about that

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Is there needs to be a hotkey that kills the program for instances like this.
yes, there is a failsafe hotkey built into SaT to auto-close the program. the hotkey is "ctrl + alt + shift + Q"
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01-10-2012 , 04:54 PM
TN have updated their software to be compatible with Stars NOVA themes. Do you anticipate any issues with running SAT with NOVA themes?
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