Hey,

I am trying to set it up, but have a following problem

whenever I press F10 to test the fold button during the poker room setup, it raises (wrong coordinates)

I play in Ipoker (Betfred) using a custom layout. I've tried reverting back to a normal layout w/ any difference

Thanks

I got past the f9 issue but when I go to press F10 to fold it fails to do so. No idea why and it does not leave any air message. I really need to get this working soon please if possible?


Edit I am running it in administrator

Nahh Grag, I messed with it for 2 days and still got the same error.

I just use Merge Keys now and 20-30 tables.

unless ipoker changed things, custom layout is likely the problem. back in normal layout, you need to use the full chat window, as noted here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/ipoker

otherwise, if you really want to use your custom layout, you should try setting up using the Custom Site Creator

how did you get past the F9 issue? if F10 to fold is failing, then it could be because the table is the wrong size or something, or you are using the wrong Merge/MergeMini setting. worst case, you can always try using the Custom Site Creator too, just select "custom" from the Site dropdown

Got past the f9 issue by clicking on the table. I tried to bypass the F10 option but now I am getting this error.

"something went wrong, Button color for Mergemini is detected as black. This usually indicates a Problem.

I have no clue how to set this up but need it working asap please.

Just tried it out on Microgaming and it makes a HUGE difference! I do have one dumb question though. Is it possible on Custom site creator to make more than 3 hotkeys for bet/fold/call? For example, to be able to create a 4th hotkey to push all-in would be great. Either way keep up the good work!

is the Fold button color really black for your skin? otherwise, youll need to try to use a different ScanMode in Advanced Options. ideally the best setup would be to use ScanMode=DWM, but first youll need to enable Aero theme within windows (vista/7). to do that, right click on the desktop, click Personalize, and then select an Aero based theme for windows. then SaT will allow you to use ScanMode=DWM, and then go through Include Site setup again

sorry this is so complicated for you, usually its all detected by default

thanks man, unfortunately at the time there are just three hotkeys built in. but this is requested often, and i'm sure i will be adding it at some point. i have a few feature requests adding up now, but i'm so busy lately playing live PLO and making some good money

No worries, SaT has already helped a ton! Maybe in the future you could make the program help me make money at plo!

i appreciate the software you make but can you take it down a notch? the guy was asking a normal, fair question. treat others with respect to receive it back. FWIW, i considered buying your software but didn't when I saw the price. I would've bought it for a flat price of maybe $30-$50. so you lost a customer in me and a lot of others as well. it's not that I don't have the money, it's just that I don't think it's worth that much. for me it's purely out of principle.

and when you say "the market is always right" you are actually contradicting yourself because all other software with a LOT more functionality, options and tools are significantly cheaper as your software. software like Poker Tracker and Holdem Manager help people a lot more in making money with poker as your software. yet they ask a fair price and don't abuse the market just because a percentage of people make a lot of money with them. are those programs not part of the market you speak of?

lastly, business wise, it may be more profitable if you ask a fair price for your software. the profit may come with more customers buying your software as right now. thinking that asking a high price will give you the highest profits is one of the most frequent mistakes in business.

just my thoughts. thanks for making good software though. shame I won't be using it (I used your previous free version out of pure laziness anyway, play about 4 to 8 tables max most of the time which take only a short time to stack. would still buy it for a lower flat price though)

ive treated everyone with respect. but i would argue that i was not given it. ive given everyone the freedom to choose however they want, buy or not, but i havent been given that freedom to price how i want in return.

this discussion took place for 10+pages of thread already, with me being completely open and thorough about everything. finally i've asked that people respect my pricing decision and move on, and if they want to know my reasoning to review my previous posts. but ppl keep complaining anyway. you've ignored my request as well. yet, ive given you the benefit of the doubt and responded to you anyway, instead of turning the blind eye to your post, just as ive done with everyone else who continues to respond, even though they show me no respect by ignoring my request in doing so. eventually you would think i would get tired of it and learn

theres no contradiction. of course those products are part of the market, albeit the service side rather than the consumer side. and i assume their products are successful. if my product fails, then the market will end up having been right about my pricing. likewise if it succeeds. if i end up wrong, i'm wrong, so be it, its not the end of the world, just a failed experiment. all i'm saying it, lets find out! lets let the market decide and stop talking about it

ive thought about all of this a lot, and researched it as well. charging too little can also sometimes be a big business mistake. double the customers at half the price equals the same profit, yet is a worse spot. youre free to try your strategy. i can cite you some sources ive read if you want, if i can find them

that said, i'm not opposed to change if the conditions are right, and was about to actually change to a cheaper flat price if a certain deal worked out. alas, it fell through

thanks. perhaps if things change in the future you will be a future customer. the whole discussion is pointless since the market for this product is so small anyway, it hardly matters what i charge since i'm making relatively nothing in either case.

so, once again, i will ask that this please be laid to rest. if you have business advice, you can send it to me in PM where perhaps we can continue the discussion

otherwise i'd like to keep this for support. it seems more people are having problems lately, so i'd like to focus on them, as well as my actual paying customers. these are the people that are my concern

Any news on the end of hand detection?

I did exactly as you said and it still does not fold my hand when pressing F10 whats the next step?

It still says it is reading the fold button as black and unless I am missing something it's reading it wrong.

Hi,
I tested the software yesterday, i have just one problem...

I would like to use the "After entering pot" Mode, but i would have to put the tables manually into the stack using the hotkeys. Is there some way to put the table back into the stack automatically?

Unfortunately the software would be useless for me without that feature.


ohh i play on Stars

Id really like using it but its not working for me. The programm doesnt recognize when i fold a hand. Actually it does about 90% of the time but only if i click it. It wont work with Table Ninja. Any idea???

Not working for me as well, auto set up doesnt work for Partypoker(although it did for stars) and after setting it up manually, hotkeys would not work at all.

you're quite the emotional guy. not that that's bad, I am as well sometimes but this is a forum, and this thread is about SAT. I am free to post here. I also really don't feel I complained about anything really. I think I was really respectful and calm to you when I said I don't think it's worth the price and it's a shame I won't be using your program because of it. that's complaining? really? I think you should be happy with people who give feedback as potential customers? because I am..... you know. maybe it's time to follow some business classes, and I don't mean that sarcastically.


I just read the 10+pages of all the complainers. One person really lighted out as being one of the few non-"complainers":
isn't it funny how he joined in May 2011 in the midst of all the complainers discussing your price and made exactly 6 posts and all in this thread defending you, cussing out the "complainers". must be nice to have such a big fan of you to create a account just to tell all the complainers how much they suck for not wanting to buy your program.


I advice you to take it easy on people who give feedback, you can learn from it. they are nothing but potential customers for your software. don't scare people away. certainly when they're being totally respectful.
it's bad business.

sorry, no

reading Fold button as black when its not black will end up being a problem. PM me your skype name and maybe tomorrow we can set up a time and i can look at things

if you click Fold with the mouse, the table should return to the stack (as long as you have Left Click Detection checked in Advanced Options, which is the deafult). does it do this at least?

usually you want tables to return to the stack after you've folded, since the table is no longer important to you since you're out of the hand. currently, if you make it to showdown, SaT leaves the table in the grid. there is no "end of hand" detection like the poster above inquired about. this shouldnt be too big of a deal, becuase if youve just made it to showdown, a new hand will be starting in a few seconds anyway that will require your attention. but this "end of hand" detection is on the to-do list

did you post on the SaT forums? i've answered the same question there, so maybe it will help you:
http://www.stackandtile.com/forum/sh...ad.php?tid=196

are you sure you're choosing the correct theme for Party, that is, classic or modern?


yeah, i guess i got pretty emotional about this because ive put a lot of time and work into this software over 2+ years, not to mention lost out on a lot of potential poker profits too. when all the backlash started i was upset and told my gf (who is russian, not a good hiding job ) about it. without my knowledge she came in and defended me. but when i found out i immediately posted this back then too, maybe you missed it in all the blabber


thats fair. i actually agree with you on this point. i think back when i first started getting these types of responses i did handle things with class and gave thorough explanations and reasons, and people just didnt like it. thats ok, but if you dont like it just move on. instead 5 months later i'm still hearing about it, so i've been frustrated. i just want to talk to the actual users who want help

Yes. I've tried using both now(and both in party as well, so a total of 3 different tries) and none worked.

Do you HAVE to use Aero mode to use DWM?

PM me your skype name and i'll take a look

yes, DWM scan mode uses features that windows only makes available through Aero. i'm on windows XP so i have to use scan mode PW since there is no Aero (it was introduced with win vista), and it works fine for me. but when massive tables are involved, it could get laggy. im pretty sure the guy who was playing 40 tables was using Aero

Yes that was me - its working now. Only problem i have now is when i check from the BB in a table in the stack it doesnt come out, can i have it tiled once i check the bb?

Also when someone shoves on me the call button isnt working with the SaT hotkey

+ The tables dont go back into the stack once the hand is over

Hi Greg, thanks for all your help! I have created custom layouts for three sites (Microgaming, Ipoker, Merge) and they all work great! The one problem I am having I think is a Merge problem but maybe you might have some ideas. The problem is when two or more actions happen at roughly the same moment which ever table happened to pop up justs stays on top of my stack. The other tables just stay where they were and I need to cycle through to get to them, which of course causes other tables to fall behind. The layouts I created are exactly the same so that is why I think it might be a Merge issue. Also, and this might be the issue but in advanced options when I have "bring urgent table to top" checked it actually sends it to the bottom so naturally it's unchecked. Any help is appriciated!

how are you 'checking' ? are you using a hotkey? and if so, SaT's or TN's?

the "call" hotkey in SaT simply clicks the second button. i believe on stars, when someone shoves on you, the "call allin" button is actually the "bet" button (third button)

yes, this feature is not yet developed. new hand is starting anyway which will need your attn so not that big of a deal

it could be that the sites are trying to steal focus from each other, as mentioned here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/focus-stealing

youll want to turn off each client's option to bring table to top, and allow SaT to handle it. for example, with merge, make sure this is off:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/carbonoption.png

especially since you mention that you are playing on ipoker. ipoker will definitely fight with SaT since ipoker offers no setting to turn it off

what site's table usually stays at the top?