Yes, exactly. But because I'm acting quickly I am clicking maybe once once the slider to increment the size by 1BB and then immediately clicking on raise, only by this time the table has already moved into the grid so the table I am clicking "raise" on is just the next random table that happened to be in the stack and awaiting action.

well the tables move depending on what Tile Setting you use. if you are using the vpip mode where tables only move to grid After you Enter the Pot, then the table should not move until you click the Raise button. perhaps TOI is mistakenly thinking that you pressed the Raise button when in fact you have only clicked the bet slider. i think i did a good job of estimating the regions of the buttons in SaT, so that a click outside the buttons (even if close by such as the bet slider) would not be detected as a button click.

or it could be that the error is because the table is getting moved on the DOWN click, so you click down on the raise button, and TOI/SAT/etc is moving the table into grid, however stars i believe doesnt register actions until the click is released UP, which of course passes it through to the next table underneath

in this last case, i'm 99% sure this problem has come up in the past and i've fixed it in SaT. you could also increase the Action Delay in SaT's Advanced Options which should also help this problem

That's reassuring to know Greg, thanks In which case I will probably trial SaT at some point this week.

Stupid question but I was wondering when I setup SaT can I use the pot button instead of bet button? I am using SaT for 888. Also, is there a way for the program to handle popups? Really like the program so far!

This is not a recurring sub right? Going back to tabling just a few 6max.

use the pot button for what? i'm not sure what youre asking

unfortunately no, i decided against doing stuff like that since i would have to check popups on every network, since SaT is designed to work on all poker sites

it is a recurring subscription. theres a faq link on the website showing how to cancel if you dont want to use it anymore

Take 888 for example. When it is your turn to act the fold/check/bet buttons pop up. Now normally SaT is setup by the user to click those options but on 888 and other sites there is a pot button that obv. bets the pot where as the bet button would only bet the minimum unless another value is inputted. Basically just looking to save the step of having to input the betting value.

i see. well yes, in the custom site wizard, when sat asks you to click on each button and then clickdrag around the button region, you could just do this for the 'pot' button instead of the 'bet' button. then, the sat 'bet' hotkeys would correspond to the 'pot' button that you configured

you dont think 17.95 per month is a little overpriced while tableninjga has only 50$
can someone pay via moneybookers?

+1. Would like to see a flat one-time purchase option of $30 or $40. $18/month is more expensive than PT3/HEM after just a few months which is kind of ridiculous.

don't you think tableninja is underpriced at $50? don't you think PT3/HEM are underpriced at $90? these softwares are easily worth 5x those amounts. they make you so much more money at the tables than a mere $90 its not even funny. if SaT helps you play just one extra table, it pays for itself. thats just my opinion.

but its not what i think, its what YOU think. if you dont think SaT is worth it, then dont buy. the market is always right.

unfortunately, i'm from the USA so i can't use mb

Ok thanks for your help I will try it out!

StackAndTile with Bodog

Is anyone having success using this with Bodog? I was able to setup Bodog fine with the custom site creator. But while SAT is running moving the tables from the stack to the grid the lag makes it almost unplayable. I don't blame SAT, I think this has to do with Bodog's poorly written software.

I'm able to run 10-12 tables on carbon fine on my system, but 4 tables of Bodog is unplayable.

I use MB in USA. Kind of sucks to set up but well worth it imo

Hey Greg! I have a question for you. I play on merge and am currently using mergekeys for hotkeys but mainly for auto time bank, popup blocks, etc. I just downloaded SAT and started a free trial.

I would love to use SAT and mergekeys together but I came across a problem. While using SAT i noticed that whenever a table needs action it steals focus, whereas before just using MK's the focus wouldn't change off the table until you either acted or toggled to another table. This is important because you don't want to be pushing an all in hotkey while the table in focus changes causing you a costly misclick. You see my problem? Have you dealt with anyone before using MK's with SAT and figured out any solid solutions?

Thanks.

you have to compare your product with others.So yes i think yours is too overpriced while it has many less fuctions than others.No i dont think table ninja is underpriced.It is worth 50-90$ not more

i do remember that people were using MergeKeys successfully with SaT. its likely a configuration problem that we can fix

in SaT, are you sending hotkeys to the "table under the mouse" or the "active table"?

also, there is a setting in SaT's Advanced Options to "activate table on move to grid", you could try turning that off and see if that solves it

Hey Greg, are you going to work on end of hand detection any time soon?

+1

Also when I am using SAT I am experiencing the following issue. HUD stats from HEM sometimes disappear. The more tables that I have open the better the chances of that happening at one point or another.

This does not happen on a table if I have selected (highlighted) the specific table on HUD Manager. I think that SAT is stealing focus from HUD Manager and as a result stats disappear. Does anyone else experience this problem even in a lesser degree?

I have a stack and 7 slots setup for playing 16 tables on 2 screens (stack and 1 slot on 1 monitor and 6 slots on the other) and I am using Win 7 x64.
Also, I have selected the "stats always on top" option (NOT clicked the "on active table only") and have the latest version of HEM and every driver/windows patch.

This issue has made SAT almost unusable for me even

I have bodog installed, but i haven't gotten around to trying to set it up with SaT yet. i also have heard similar stories of their software being a huge pain, so we'll see

playing so much PLO lately, somehow i managed to lose $4k at $1/2 the other day, thats where all of my attention has been.

it will get done, but i don't want to make any more promises as to when "soon" might be

i'm not exactly sure how HEM's HUD works, so you might have to ask them for help as well.

when the stats disappear, do they re-appear after a second or two? i ask because if they do re-appear, it could just be a HUD lag while the tables are moved around by SaT

if you suspect the problem could be from a focus steal, in SaT's advanced options, you can uncheck the option to "activate table on move to grid" and see if that helps

Greg,

I really think you need to at least consider lowering the price and/or charging a one-time cost. PT3 and HEM are top-of-the-line poker software programs, with tons of functions and intricacy, and they cost $80, one time. Table ninja is also a very useful program with a lot of work put into it, and it costs $60. Then there are the third tier programs like Flopzilla which cost around $35.

Stack and Tile, certainly a helpful program which I appreciate, but which honestly and objectively cannot compare to PT3/HEM or TN, costs over $200 per year. This is over $600 in just 3 years for a relatively simple piece of poker software! Sure for some players it's technically "worth it" since adding more tables allows us to make more money, but it really seems like you are taking advantage of people by charging this much.

plus, btw, you would get more customers if it was reasonably priced; see the replies in this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45...-tile-1105599/

double the customers at half the price is the same amount of money but a worse situation for me. i want loyal happy satisfied customers who find SaT valuable to them

PT3/HEM/TN have huge customer bases to support lower costs, even though their software is massively underpriced. i'm a one man show who doesn't even make enough to pay the rent with this project. i would pay $1k+ for PT3/HEM and so would any serious poker player. you should be looking at those software and be smirking that you're getting such a steal. your comparisons are backward. you compare the price to other software which makes no sense. you should be comparing the price to what you get in return. i think a few big blinds a month is easily covered by the addition of extra tables that SaT allows. if you don't think its worth it, that's your choice and i respect that. the market is always right.

this has been beaten to death, you're probably new the the thread so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt. but i'm not forcing anyone to do anything. now lets try to steer this back to help/support/feature requests

Sorry, I am new to the thread and wasn't aware of previous price discussion, but I was aware that I am not the only one dissatisfied with the cost.

I do happen to think SAT is worth it--I am a customer, just not a particularly happy/satisfied one. Just because something is "worth it" doesn't mean it's priced appropriately. If a competitor comes out who charges $50 for a similar program, SAT is doomed.

I respect your decision; just letting you know a customer's thoughts on the cost issue.