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01-20-2016 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Someone picked him out of a line up, and he had previously committed sexual crimes in the area.
This is totally and completely false. W. T. F.?
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01-20-2016 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
There is a bullet that may have come from his gun that had her dna, unless it was contaminated.

If the police planted anything, then nothing that could have been easily planted (dna on the bullet or door latch) can be trusted. Holy ****. And then you have no idea if that gun killed her.
Not to mention the fact that there are .22 shell casings all over the yard. These are people that literally hunt for food.

By the way, the rifle had been in police possession for 6 months before the "magic" bullet was found. Just sayin...
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01-20-2016 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Well unfortunately, this little tangent started because truefish said:



That's all the jury seemed to need as well, not to mention the other "Avery's a monster" believers ITT. So it would seem pretty important to understand if/why the co-workers said this at all. So did they?
I can't believe you're still defending his character. He doused a cat in flammable material and intentionally burned it to death for fun. Well-adjusted adults don't do that. He threatened to kill three different women (including running one off the road and pointing a gun at her). A woman who lived with him for two years describes horrific abuse and referred to him as a "monster." If you think this was a miscarriage of justice, then OK. But to defend his character at this point is just beyond absurd.
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01-20-2016 , 10:25 PM
Lets get something straight. The bullet did come from his gun. The expert testified to this in trial. I don't care what conclusions you drew from watching that documentary, it is a true statement that the bullet came from his gun. I already quoted where the expert said this from the transcripts and gave you guys a link to the transcripts yourselves to fact check me. Moving on to address some other stuff itt.
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01-20-2016 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dalerobk2
I can't believe you're still defending his character. He doused a cat in flammable material and intentionally burned it to death for fun. Well-adjusted adults don't do that. He threatened to kill three different women (including running one off the road and pointing a gun at her). A woman who lived with him for two years describes horrific abuse and referred to him as a "monster." If you think this was a miscarriage of justice, then OK. But to defend his character at this point is just beyond absurd.
Not sure where in my post you determined I was defending his character. Sorta seems like you drew that conclusion yourself. BTW do you have any proof that her co-workers said any of this? I would like to see it.
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01-20-2016 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
The victim in that case didn't go: oh, it was SA. A sketch artist drew SA from looking at a picture of him, not from her description and then the police suggested that it was him. He fit the basic description was the entirety of the case, other than the police directing the identification.
That is partly true, but not entirely. She described him and he drew him, he claims it is based of her description, the doc and his lawyers doing the lawsuit insinuate it was based off his mugshot. After he draws the picture and asks if this is the guy, she says yes. He then grabs several photos and she picks him out of the photos he provides her, then she picks him out of a line up.
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01-20-2016 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Well unfortunately, this little tangent started because truefish said:



That's all the jury seemed to need as well, not to mention the other "Avery's a monster" believers ITT. So it would seem pretty important to understand if/why the co-workers said this at all. So did they?
Fair enough, I do not particularly care what her co workers thought or really what Teressa thought before she was killed, in the context of getting to the truth anyway.
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01-20-2016 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Not to mention the fact that there are .22 shell casings all over the yard. These are people that literally hunt for food.

By the way, the rifle had been in police possession for 6 months before the "magic" bullet was found. Just sayin...
What is your point with the police having the gun?
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01-20-2016 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Here's an article written on March 1, 2006. This article cites other articles and facts that were clearly out in the open at the time. Nothing circumstantial BD stated during his interviews that was later proven to be true was originated by him. Nothing.
lol read the date again..
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01-20-2016 , 10:35 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...300522_pf.html

LOL - and another one from Nov 13, 2005 where they discuss leg irons, blood in the SUV, the whole 9.

Nothing further your honor.
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01-20-2016 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
What is your point with the police having the gun?
What is the point of the 10 part Netflix series called Making a Murderer?
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01-20-2016 , 10:38 PM
Well I guess that may explain how he COULD have known about the leg irons but not how he would know about her blood in the Suv. Or that she was shot multiple times on the left side of her head.
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01-20-2016 , 10:42 PM
Weren't the shackles purchased at a sex shop and covered in pink fur and then tested for DNA?
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01-20-2016 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blackize5
Weren't the shackles purchased at a sex shop and covered in pink fur and then tested for DNA?
Well, that's a good question. We don't know for sure because this "incredibly damning" evidence was never submitted by the prosecution. I believe they found unknown DNA on the sex toys, but it was not TH, BD or SA.

I can't believe some are trying to bring this up to strengthen the case he killed her. And you call the documentary biased?
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01-20-2016 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Well I guess that may explain how he COULD have known about the leg irons but not how he would know about her blood in the Suv. Or that she was shot multiple times on the left side of her head.
I've already debunked the stronger points you tried to make. Do you want me to keep going?
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01-20-2016 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Well, that's a good question. We don't know for sure because this "incredibly damning" evidence was never submitted by the prosecution. I believe they found unknown DNA on the sex toys, but it was not TH, BD or SA.

I can't believe some are trying to bring this up to strengthen the case he killed her. And you call the documentary biased?
The shackels were presented as evidence actually.
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01-20-2016 , 10:56 PM
What exactly do you think you have debunked? it is comical you think you have.
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01-20-2016 , 11:07 PM
He used the shackles with Jodi. There is zero TH on them.
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01-20-2016 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
He used the shackles with Jodi. There is zero TH on them.
Nice pop in. I don't see you saying, "interesting, I wasn't aware it was proved the bullet came from stevans gun, maybe I should look into this more"
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01-20-2016 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
The shackels were presented as evidence actually.
Source? Proof?
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01-20-2016 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
He used the shackles with Jodi. There is zero TH on them.
Actually, no he didn't. Their jail time over-lapped.
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01-20-2016 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Source? Proof?
It would take me a while to find but they are in the transcripts to my knowledge.
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01-20-2016 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
What exactly do you think you have debunked? it is comical you think you have.
I've debunked 3 parts of your theory that BD offered facts about the murder in his "confession" that only the murderer could have known and is therefor guilty or involved. I did this by clearly showing you that the media was broadcasting every single fact about this case long before BD was ever interviewed. They tried the same thing to his cousin and had no rebuttal when she simply said "I saw it on the news".

You'd have to be delusional to think that this whole town wasn't running wild with the facts from this case. You don't think someone in the Avery family in highschool in a town of 1400 people doesn't hear about the details of the what the cops are supposedly discovering?

It is interesting that the classic strategy of withholding facts from the crime scene and allowing suspects to offer them before they are BPI was nevery utilized in this case. I wonder why?
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01-20-2016 , 11:35 PM
Debunking itt
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01-20-2016 , 11:44 PM
Fraley trolling now for sure
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