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02-05-2016 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Dude, you are just absolutely ridiculous.




BTW, this is the March 1st "confession".

If you want to defend LEOs and MC Sheriff's department and state that nothing wrong was done here, etc, that's fine. But you shouldn't be allowed to come in here and just spout off stuff that has no relevance and is not based around any fact or is contrary to the evidence and topics we are discussing. It does ruin the thread at this point, when in the past you were saving the thread IMO.

You don't need to stick to your guns when your guns are out of bullets. You should probably run or find another way to defend yourself.

Edit: I guess surrendering is also an option, although that might mean admitting that you were wrong, not thinking clearly and influenced by outside sources or pressure that made you act in a way that was contrary to ethical behaviour.
I don't see what is the problem with anything you quoted? can you tell me what you think from that testimony contradicts what I said? And do so without getting yourself all worked up.
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02-05-2016 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Also fraleyight's post have become suspiciously different as of late. Very similar to PoorShillz.
Have any mod do an IP check on me. I post from two different addresses, one is at my office and the other at my home. Both are less than 30 mins from each other. They are both in Iowa. You really need to quit being so paranoid.
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02-05-2016 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Listen to Brendan here say it could have been the Ax killer. starts 57.00min. Nov 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zePg5OfvyU&t=57m15s
He said a lot of stuff that wasn't true in that interview

1) that he never saw th

2) that there was no bonfire

3) that he didn't talk to steven that die

All of which changed even when he told his innocent narrative.
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02-05-2016 , 10:14 PM
1 of those (that he never saw TH) changes 1/2 way through the conversation.
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02-05-2016 , 10:20 PM
Someone knows the truth. Or just random FB bs?

http://imgur.com/FPtd6HF
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02-05-2016 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
I don't see what is the problem with anything you quoted? can you tell me what you think from that testimony contradicts what I said? And do so without getting yourself all worked up.
I guess you're right. It's the investigators that are describing the bloody murder scene (not in the garage). BD as usual is just going along with it.
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02-05-2016 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
I guess you're right. It's the investigators that are describing the bloody murder scene (not in the garage). BD as usual is just going along with it.
Again, I never said there was no blood. I just said the amount of blood you guys expect to see is not really required based on his testimony. You guys seem to think she was just gushing blood killbill style or something. I don't see any indication of that based on anything he has said.
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02-05-2016 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
He said a lot of stuff that wasn't true in that interview

1) that he never saw th

2) that there was no bonfire

3) that he didn't talk to steven that die

All of which changed even when he told his innocent narrative.
Pretty much all of his statements seem like lies, coercion or BS, wouldn't you say? Maybe we should rely on forensic evidence instead?

What does the "Outside of SIU's pocket" mean for your location?

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02-05-2016 , 10:45 PM
It is a pog reference to someone I play werewolf with here on 2p2.
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02-05-2016 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Again, I never said there was no blood. I just said the amount of blood you guys expect to see is not really required based on his testimony. You guys seem to think she was just gushing blood killbill style or something. I don't see any indication of that based on anything he has said.
Even if you did say "there was no blood", how would you know? You weren't there, were you?

No.

Okay, so now you rely on Brendan's testimony as the proof you need that BOTH are guilty. And Brendan's testimony clearly states "There must have been a lot of blood." (Brendan nods head) as I just posted AND you just quoted.

Your argument is no longer valid.
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02-05-2016 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Even if you did say "there was no blood", how would you know? You weren't there, were you?

No.

Okay, so now you rely on Brendan's testimony as the proof you need that BOTH are guilty. And Brendan's testimony clearly states "There must have been a lot of blood." (Brendan nods head) as I just posted AND you just quoted.

Your argument is no longer valid.
Using the "were you there argument" are ya? That argument is so bad no matter the context but whatever.. Again, I NEVER SAID THERE was no blood.

And he didn't say there was a lot of blood.

"was there a lot of blood on his hands"

shakes head yes.


Do you not see the subtle but important difference here? He just strangled someone whos neck was was cut. Of course he was going to have a lot of blood on his hands.
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02-05-2016 , 10:51 PM
According to the luminol testing (not sure if I spelled that right) there was a lot of spot cleaning inside the trailer. So I imagine there was some blood in the trailer in spots that was cleaned with bleach. Who spot cleans with bleach? I use bleach sometimes on my floors but I don't spot clean random spots.. Do you find it fishy that he spot cleaned random spots in his trailer (which is filthy by the way) at the same time he spot cleaned his garage with bleach? the two locations where BD said this took place.
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02-05-2016 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
According to the luminol testing (not sure if I spelled that right) there was a lot of spot cleaning inside the trailer. So I imagine there was some blood in the trailer in spots that was cleaned with bleach. Who spot cleans with bleach? I use bleach sometimes on my floors but I don't spot clean random spots.. Do you find it fishy that he spot cleaned random spots in his trailer (which is filthy by the way) at the same time he spot cleaned his garage with bleach? the two locations where BD said this took place.
Link?
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02-05-2016 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
Using the "were you there argument" are ya? That argument is so bad no matter the context but whatever.. Again, I NEVER SAID THERE was no blood.

And he didn't say there was a lot of blood.

"was there a lot of blood on his hands"

shakes head yes.


Do you not see the subtle but important difference here? He just strangled someone whos neck was was cut. Of course he was going to have a lot of blood on his hands.
Troll got me.



There are multiple times they mention a bloody crime scene. I can continue posting if you want to continue looking like troll.

Not only did they not find one bit of DNA from TH anywhere in this trailer or Garage (for 5 months), they didn't find one bit of DNA for BD anywhere ever.

EVER.

Go ahead and try to say "sure he's guilty, it just didn't happen the way the cops tried to say it did, blah blah". But don't try to cherry pick ridiculous points from the 5-6 interviews BD did, all with different versions and put together a crime scene that has ZERO forensic evidence to back it up.
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02-05-2016 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
According to the luminol testing (not sure if I spelled that right) there was a lot of spot cleaning inside the trailer. So I imagine there was some blood in the trailer in spots that was cleaned with bleach. Who spot cleans with bleach? I use bleach sometimes on my floors but I don't spot clean random spots.. Do you find it fishy that he spot cleaned random spots in his trailer (which is filthy by the way) at the same time he spot cleaned his garage with bleach? the two locations where BD said this took place.
Yet he leaves his own blood stains in plain view in the trailer and deer blood in the garage.

Again, it seems there is something clearly wrong with your data assimilation ability.

Or you are a troll.

Or you are a shill.
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02-05-2016 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Link?
http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...ey_4_17_07.pdf

pg 81 is when he starts talking about it.
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02-05-2016 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Yet he leaves his own blood stains in plain view in the trailer and deer blood in the garage.

Again, it seems there is something clearly wrong with your data assimilation ability.

Or you are a troll.

Or you are a shill.
There was one large spot in the garage that was cleaned. Why? Why is that the same location and almost the same size as BD said the area of blood was?
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02-05-2016 , 11:25 PM
Did the lady that said SA raped her actually say she thinks SA murdered TH, someone needs to break SA out of jail so he can run her off the road and threaten her.
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02-05-2016 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Troll got me.



There are multiple times they mention a bloody crime scene. I can continue posting if you want to continue looking like troll.

Not only did they not find one bit of DNA from TH anywhere in this trailer or Garage (for 5 months), they didn't find one bit of DNA for BD anywhere ever.

EVER.

Go ahead and try to say "sure he's guilty, it just didn't happen the way the cops tried to say it did, blah blah". But don't try to cherry pick ridiculous points from the 5-6 interviews BD did, all with different versions and put together a crime scene that has ZERO forensic evidence to back it up.
none of what you just quoted describes a blood crime scene to me. She had blood stain on her shirt from a stab wound and SA had blood on his hands. You think this is impossible to clean up?

Zero forensic evidence? not quite, he knew what side of her head she was shot, he knew she was shot in the head more than once, he knew which gun was used, he knew she was put in the back of the rav 4 after she died, he knew the area that was cleaned, he knew that tires were used to get the fire going.. Just to name a few.
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02-05-2016 , 11:27 PM
Also, are you going to acknowledge that the snippet you posted where he said steven had a lot of blood on his hands is not indication there was too much blood he couldn't clean up?
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02-05-2016 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fraleyight
none of what you just quoted describes a blood crime scene to me. She had blood stain on her shirt from a stab wound and SA had blood on his hands. You think this is impossible to clean up?

Zero forensic evidence? not quite, he knew what side of her head she was shot, he knew she was shot in the head more than once, he knew which gun was used, he knew she was put in the back of the rav 4 after she died, he knew the area that was cleaned, he knew that tires were used to get the fire going.. Just to name a few.
You seem to not understand what forensic evidence means.
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02-05-2016 , 11:31 PM
Forensic evidence is scientific testing for the purpose of a criminal investigation. I listed conclusions that were drawn via scientific testing.
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02-05-2016 , 11:32 PM
I have to concede the spot cleaning in the house thing though. After re reading his testimony it said he found luminol on the couch. Still questions are raised about the garage.
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02-06-2016 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Oski
(and, he wanted to dump the body in the pond, but even though it is his own property, he did not already know the pond had dried up ... ).
You know how big the property is, right?
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